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  1. 6 points
    That's your opinion along with the Governor and his Health Secretary. A health secretary who among other things moved her mother out of a nursing home at the very start of this mess while at the same time sent positive patients back into other homes such as the one in Beaver County. That facility is the SOLE reason Beaver county is still in the Red phase. That leaves a lot of room to question their plans as well as their motives You have your Fauci's with one opinion, people from Stanford with another and last night I saw another doctor who had his message removed from youtube just like may others have. His message was this, the schools and children weren't at risk and we closed them immediately. The senior care facilities were the highest risk and they took forever to be closed. If we left the schools open, there would have been a better chance for building herd immunity. The bottom line is this, you don't know. I don't know and I'm not sure anyone really does know. So, for two months we have listened to their "rules" and now it's time to get back to life if you're so inclined OR stay at home in fear of something that is the unknown and which the duration is also unknown. Just not the way this country is supposed to work.
  2. 5 points
    How do you propose to enforce this. I don't think USA Hockey is going to send someone to a rink to take names. I am actually quite shocked by the people who are whining about a rink renting their ice out. How will you feel if rinks have to close because they have had no income for 4 or 5 months. How would it affect youth hockey if the number of rinks in western pa is cut in half when it gets to green. And for arguments sake tell me what it is going to take to get to green. How can you work toward something with no guidelines. People are tired of government just making things up, No one is being forced to skate. Maybe just maybe there are people skating for the love of the game. I would like to think that most people are well aware of the risks involved with being in public. We are in this for the long haul. No quick fix. Time to get on with life! And yes that most likely means the inflated numbers are going to go up, people are going to get sick. Most will recover some will not. I live in a country that up until now gave me the choice to live my life free from oppression. I'd like to get back to that. Enough of my rantings. Time
  3. 4 points
    THIS IS GOING TO SOUND CRAZY!!!! How about everyone worry about their own kid!!!! Most of the parents who are raising issues about this are jealous and are the same types of parents that openly complain to their child about the coach or teammates. The supposed favorites are usually the kids that works harder than everyone else, loves the game, wants to be at the rink, and listens, which is the reason why their one of the better players on the team and getting more ice time. It’s not the coach’s fault, it’s the players, because I guarantee the player isn’t working hard, goofs around, doesn’t listen, isn’t skilled enough and causes the team problems. Rather than worry about what other kids and organizations (that your kid isn’t skilled enough to make) are doing you should worry about teaching your kid how to take responsibility for themselves and not shift blame.
  4. 4 points
    Honestly, and I've never noticed this on the past so hopefully I'm wrong, but this entire thread stinks of "my kid didn't get invited I'm jealous" or at a minimum "I'm terrified in my house and jealous other people aren't". Let kids play sports and get some exercise. Save the liability bull$ for people who care.
  5. 4 points
    willing to bet 90% of people on this board would send their kids to the rink for full games or tryouts tomorrow- with no fear. in talking to many dems and republicans i don’t know anyone who fears school or sports. perhaps they will take precautions and be careful around the vulnerable people in their lives, but that’s it. and it’s not a matter of doing anything so that “little johnnie” shines - it’s just that most people who i know just don't have the fear that everyone says the media has instilled.
  6. 3 points
    Lol! That rink has a bit of a goose problem on the creek side. They crap on everything.
  7. 3 points
    You don't post here much then do you? We don't actually solve anything, or have any meaningful discussions here, that must be done on a different board.
  8. 3 points
    Rules should always be followed. That's why I always drive 55 on the interstate around the city and never let my kids play knee hockey in a hotel. I also never eat less than 30 minutes before getting in the swimming pool, never litter, always get a building permit when I do home repairs, and never curse in front of my mother. Scouts honor!
  9. 3 points
    PAHL HQ - that's appropriate
  10. 3 points
    Prepping them for Prep school! Makes about as much sense as PPE's new *not associated with any school* Prep team. Haven't you heard about the new Pittsburgh Super Selects High Performance Elite Prospect Prep 6U Mite team?
  11. 3 points
    Extra special team that parents will pay a premium for Duh.
  12. 3 points
    I mean really. Old people die every day. We have plenty of beds and ventilators for all those old people. Let's get to playing hockey already!
  13. 2 points
    You should just stay home. It's much safer.
  14. 2 points
    If a coach needs to see a kid at 100% of his sport specific abilities at tryouts they have zero intention of developing their abilities throughout the season. And spare me parental opinions on what constitutes the “top players” at tryouts. Each coach needs to evaluate and select players that he or she will be able to properly develop and mold into the team structure. Not everyone values the same thing. But to suggest that a player that goes to play baseball or run track instead of playing 3 on 3, spring league or joining any number of events that rinks put on to keep the lights on in the summer, has any less to offer than a player whose manual dexterity related to puck handling is slightly sharper is moronic and why the sport has such a bad rep at the amateur level. The number of competent coaches within USA hockey is dwindling. But what’s worse is that Joe and Joyce MeddleParent know it all and think it’s always a conspiracy. Good coaches value athleticism, speed, strength, and work ethic. That’s what you look for at a tryout if you have any thoughts of being a good coach in any sport. If a player lacks any one of those attributes, the others better be elite. All sport specific skills can be honed and attained with those attributes in place. What type of skills the coach prefers will always show in their players. With that in mind, these coaches deserve compensation. But you can’t have Joe and Joyce dictating whether or not these guys are competent or not. But what a confounding situation you have when USA hockey has decided that J&J are what matter. That’s why you’ll see coaching competence go south. Nobody wants the hassle and USA hockey prefers controllable assets. Daddy coaches, step right up!
  15. 2 points
    Rumor has it Alpha is in deep with issues surrounding the lack of social distancing and mask wearing by some of its patrons. I guess someone has repeatedly given warning to the geese to stop congregating in small groups, wear masks but to no avail. The local magistrate, when asked, said he was highly concerned about these geese (and ducks) disregard for CDC guidelines, and that they continue to congregate and shit all over the parking lot. If these Geese cause a breakout, will their affiliates take action against them. We all know the members of the gander who are blatant disobeying the rules. Wonder what happens next??
  16. 2 points
    The players have probably moved on in their own minds yet mommy an daddy just can't let it go. Poor Bobby should never have to suffer this injustice.
  17. 2 points
    Allegheny and Butler counties going Green starting next Friday.
  18. 2 points
    This is quite different though. This isn't truly (or shouldn't be if we are talking "science") about kids or their parents at the rinks dying. That's such a small % chance it's laughable. This is about hypothetical risk to others, killing "granny" if you will. There are quite a few equivalents to the idea of driving, going places in flu season, taking children on ATVs, etc. Even though this virus is worse than those as far as risk to others and possibly to self depending on your situation, we make calculated risks every day about what we think are acceptable or unacceptable consequences. No one wants to put out a number of lives that make something acceptable but there is one somewhere. If we are going to make policy and enforce that on others someone needs to come up with a real metric. Originally it was hospital capacity. Now it's "lives". That bar keeps moving and no one is willing to say "here is the measure or here is the metric that makes risk acceptable". We are all lying if we say playing hockey isn't worth risking one life. People die playing sports, driving to sports, etc. So how many lives is it? Or is it hospital capacity? Or is it making people sick? And none of that gets into the tradeoffs involved in "keeping things closed". It's honestly a conversation we need to be having. Or should we just stop playing sports forever? What if a vaccine never comes (WHO says that's possible)? No more school sports or restaurants for the rest of our lives?
  19. 2 points
    I actually agree with you and it's also up to the individual parents. My sarcasm in the last post was a response to King about when "rules" apply. I have not participated in any hockey activities and probably won't until it is officially allowed. At the same time, it isn't my job to go around whining about other people who choose to do so or try to morality shame them or snitch on them or anything else. If someone wants to enforce the rules, be it a government organization or a sporting authority like Mid-Am, PAHL, or USA Hockey, it's easy enough to see who is participating and who isn't and that's their perogative. It's looking more and more as though nothing is going to be enforced and I'm perfectly OK with that.
  20. 2 points
    Minding your own business seems hard these days
  21. 2 points
    Yeah Nemesis! Here is a topic we can agree on. My kid was never a "goal scorer", but did have a fairly successful career as a d-man with a great +/-, perfect tape-to-tape passes and rarely lost a battle on the boards. Always towards the bottom of the stats list after Peewee's (that when he realized he had a role to play on the team, which was skating it coast-to-coast and shooting). A lot of times when people came calling on him I was always surprised because of his lack of goals, but every coach pointed out (just like you did), there is more to this game than scoring goals. Great post, thanks
  22. 2 points
    I would agree that pihl teams don’t seem to always play their best players for whatever reason (first you have to get them to join the team). Tier 1 kids get frustrated watching a dman think he’s Paul Coffey leading the rush just to turn the puck over at the opponents blue line or line mates playIng 3 on 3 Superman hockey, but I suppose both of these should be put on coaching. Regardless of skill level and skating ability, kids should be taught to move the puck, use your line mates. The best thing I’ve ever heard a coach yell during a game “you can’t skate the fn thing faster than you can pass it”.
  23. 2 points
    North Pittsburgh is not forming teams at this time. We intend to hold tryouts as usual, once the pandemic lets up and our home facility is re-opened. A tryout schedule will be posted once there is clarity on our rink's status. Daryl Dolan Director of Travel Hockey
  24. 2 points
    The “evenly balanced teams” is always brought up by the parents on the board that have kids that can’t cut it on the “higher level” teams and want their kids to be on a winning team. And don’t be too quick to pay the backs of the parents that shot it down. They more than likely have motives as well. Having even teams eliminates the “top team”. So no bragging rights. Plus I’m sure the weak-willed board members didn’t put up much of a fight. This is absolutely no different than any parent who wants their kid to play on a AAA team for the status. This is why I always say to blame the parent for being self serving before you’re going to blame the organization for being greedy. Believe me, self serving parents came long before the greedy organizations. They created the monster.
  25. 2 points
    Come on @Eddie Shore. Wise up. Men can own hair salons too.
  26. 2 points
    I'd say this has about a 1% chance of happening. The fact that they're still discussing this is enough to justify cleaning house with their leadership.
  27. 2 points
    In good news, Georgia has the least hospitalized and least on vents since April 8. If that trend continues we should be golden by mid summer.
  28. 2 points
    Typical lib, I live in beaver county. It’s cleaner than Allegheny, all the problem is one nursing home. Quarantine the home and workers. The pandemic is bs to begin with, go read about the Hong Kong flu, it’s a similar virus.
  29. 2 points
    "Amadio along with the other county commissioners said the governor told local leaders his decision was based off the number of positive cases and deaths coming out of Brighton Rehab and Wellness Center. “The nursing home outbreak is not a new development, it’s been going on for weeks and this administration’s irrational decision to sit on the sidelines at the beginning and the Department of Health’s failed oversight has now resulted in that administration punishing all of Beaver County,” said Commissioner Daniel Camp. Camp tells KDKA to date there are 333 positive COVID-19 cases between residents and staff plus 71 related deaths in this nursing home. There are 78 coronavirus-related deaths in Beaver County total. County Commissioner Jack Manning said it doesn’t make sense everyone else in the region can open, while the governor “puts a wall” around Beaver County for one nursing home. He said it’s his job to protect the welfare of businesses and residents, which is why he won’t be backing the governor’s decision." Yeah, deprive the county businesses of a living because of an outbreak pretty much contained to one place. Does that make sense to you? I'm glad to hear that the County DA won't prosecute people who open their business.
  30. 2 points
    If it takes 10-12 weeks to get to the green we are going to see a lot of businesses open against the orders. Some are already defying the Governors orders We all know of Hair Salons that are quietly opening to preferred customers. What he did to Beaver County is ridiculous. At this point we should all know the risks associated with going out to public places. If rinks were to open next week with restrictions I would let my kids go. I will probably get them a clear face shield, Make them dress and undress at home. The problem I see is how will restaurants, gyms, salons survive on 25% capacity. Most are built on 50 to 75% just to breakeven.
  31. 2 points
  32. 2 points
    This right here is so true. We had a ton of sick kids on both travel and PIHL teams last season. This is why I believe having a reliable anti-body test is just as important as testing for the actual virus because I believe we will see many of us have already had it. My company has an office in California. Half the office was out sick in February with some unknown sickness. Everyone now believes it was COVID, and likely explains why the numbers in CA are less than PA....not because they are following the lockdown better or started sooner, but because they've already had it and didn't know it.
  33. 2 points
    To date ( My company works with hospitals ) upmc mercy has taken care of 8 cases, Saint Clair 1, upmc East 3, Allegheny 5, upmc south side zero and this is where the testing is being done. I’d say this entire “pandemic” is over blown and unfortunately it’s turning into a political game. I would also wager that most kids that play hockey, along with their parents have antibodies for covid 19. This was by far the worse season of sickness on hockey teams. Dec-feb “the flu” went through most teams.
  34. 1 point
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  35. 1 point
    They won’t have a conventional payroll. All the affiliates are separate non profits. To understand why I would opine that they do it all for money, look at their National office. The national office has paid positions. Any executive position includes an element of politics in order to land them. These are no different. You may argue that, “He makes approximately $400,000-500,000 a year so why would he do anything for more money?”. But ask yourself this, how do people get the positions in the first place and how could anyone possibly suppress sexual misconduct involving a minor? By keeping people they know and trust around them and doing business on the way up. The rich get richer. Now, you may argue, “well the affiliate execs don’t get paid!”. Right. How did they get their jobs? And if you’re the USA hockey Président, can you afford to have people in positions of authority that would threaten your ability to suppress illegal activities? And how much of a reach would it be to say, solicit donations from parents in exchange for things like district team positions, or a roster spot in the now “USA HOCKEY APPROVED!!!!!” Ushl or NAHL? Maybe a “donor” wants someone to face discipline? What you got in your wallet Mr and Mrs Helicopter Parent? Or, what if someone needs a way to commit crimes and youth sports provides that? What’s it cost to get you to look the other way? Reform is always possible but it will take a major house cleaning nationwide and a major down sizing. That way it would allow for other governing bodies to come have the ability to compete and function side by side. The National Center for SafeSport needs to get federal funding and expand to run amateur athletics to include ncaa sports. They simply cannot continue to be a free enterprise monopolized by 1 entity. The best way I can explain I know so much is that, after decades in and around the sport, in various areas nationally, at multiple levels, you get to know people. You also can learn all you need to by listening when people talk. Do your homework. All of the information is at your fingertips. But the interactions I’ve had with these people have been over many years and it’s the SAME PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. They don’t change because if they did, a lot of illegal activity would be exposed. And again, it’s all my opinion but, prove me wrong.
  36. 1 point
    The theme of @Jack Handey original post was the fact that rinks and/or coaches are breaking state mandates on conducting business and allowing larger than permitted groups use the facilities. At some point it got twisted by a litany of “but what about...?” Posts that are the weakest form of argument or debate. Even the OP dropped their original argument for a political diatribe that eventually devolved into this boards famous virtue signaling. So I’ll ask this question Of you, @aaaahockey, through the original viewpoint of rule breaking- are you of the belief that rules only apply when it’s convenient? The fact that rinks, coaches, clubs, etc, have decided to eschew any mandates from “governing bodies” or state governments, doesn't in the least bother you at all? Let me give you a scenario and see how you’d handle it. Let’s say a parent of a player on your kids team isn’t playing as much as yours. They decide to accuse your player of bullying. Understand that whether the kid did or not is irrelevant because the simple implication of it is what matters. Now, your kid obviously denies it. However, one of the lawyers that is on the board of directors in your district, reached out to the parents that make the accusations to do an “investigation”. Keep in mind the accusing parent has money to burn and loose morals. All of a sudden your kid is called into a hearing where they are forbidden to defend themselves and only permitted to listen to the accusations. They then are suspended. Obviously the process violates the rights of your son and taking a kickback or “donation” in exchange for a certain ruling would be illegal in any world. But no matter how hard you try, certain social or political voices (similar to this board) determines that your kid bullied and deserved it. Would you then be so obtuse about rule breaking? Just curious.
  37. 1 point
    Great post!! I agree with this "It's not the coaches fault" I disagree with this "it's the player" The player has culpability for sure. But their portion is about a third and their parents about two thirds. The kids of the parents who are constantly in their ear have such little chance to achieve what THEY want simply because of what their parents want.
  38. 1 point
    Youth sports in general are a wreck. When paid high school coaches started running their own businesses outside of school, it was all over. Want to make the baseball team? You better be paying to attend the coaches summer training camp. Already on the varsity team? You better be volunteering your summer to helping the younger kids at the camp. Want to make the wrestling team? Better be attending the non-school affiliated trading program that the coach owns. Catch my drift? I had a kid who played hockey for me a few seasons. Not all year-round, put he'd play when he could. Well when I was putting a team together one season, his dad said he couldn't play because summer travel baseball was starting, with a team most of the school team was playing for. He said the kid would rather play hockey, but if he missed a summer on the travel baseball team- that he'd been on for 6 years- he probably wouldn't make it if he had to tryout again next season. And forget about playing for the varsity team. In regards to expense of hockey, and the nonsense parts of it- it would be the same for any sport, but your school taxes pick up most of the tab for those other sports. And a limited amount of community-owned rinks, like they have a lot of in other places up north- instead of a community pool, you have a community rink. That helps keep costs down. Then, with school teams, you have athletic directors who step in if things start getting stupid. Hockey, lacrosse, and other club sports have no real oversight like that.
  39. 1 point
    Oh good to know. I guess if you leave both messages up you can have your cake and eat it too.
  40. 1 point
    WTF is 14U Prep?
  41. 1 point
    The Armstrong Amateur Hockey League including the Arrows "National Bound" Program 14U Prep/16U/18U are not forming teams at this time. We plan to hold tryouts as usual once USA hockey permits. A tryout schedule will be posted on the Armstrong Arrows league website: armstrongarrows.com and keep watching for updates on our Armstrong Arrows "National Bound" Hockey Teams Facebook page.
  42. 1 point
    I used the speakeasy reference the other day in talking to someone. And it’ll be a matter of time before some idiot parent makes a call to the state and USA hockey to tattle in the rinks
  43. 1 point
    @ctil20 I too am a Republican and I don't go around here yelling at everyone as liberal or republican. I will go further that I base my decisions on FACTS & LOGIC and not on feelings, love or social justice. Wolf IS an idiot and a stooge and is strong arming counties with very small rates to be shutdown (Beaver) when there is really no logic behind it. Locking down a whole county when literally one building is the main problem is beyond rationale. Your anti-trump ranting is getting really old.
  44. 1 point
    I heard from somebody in central PA that apparently the State College association was proposing going to "balanced teams" as opposed to putting the like skilled players together and trying to play at as high a level as possible within PAHL. Apparently this got shot down once parents heard about it, but it goes to prove what "The King" wrote above.
  45. 1 point
    Woah, woah, woah! Can we please not use the C words here please! Words like challenge and competition are what’s hurting our youth of America. And come on man, these players were born to play the sport. Amateur athletics is about fun and socializing. Not these grotesque C words. That coach should be brought up on charges for embarrassing that player by forcing him to compete for a spot on a team. And then they all had an expectation to win?! Well I never! I hope the Illinois district reprimanded these people and disciplines them accordingly. Where were the parents to question the methods? They were winning so OBVIOUSLY the coach focused on winning. They should have filed reports. Come on! Anyone with me!
  46. 1 point
    This last sentence. 100%. I wonder if people will notice how the time off affects their players for the positive instead of merely focussing on the slight and temporary decline in skating and stickhandling skills. The only caveat is that there are surely MANY players - admittedly mostly likely not AA or AAA players - who are sitting on their couches playing video games rather than staying in shape. The first couple weeks back on the ice will be fascinating, and the players who cared to stay active will be obvious.
  47. 1 point
    Careful Paul, posting stuff like that will get you put in the Right Wing Nut Job category by ctil20
  48. 1 point
    There you have it. Average age of 79. I thought I had heard something along those lines the other day about our area specifically and thought that it seemed like too high of an average age. I guess not. 60% of those deaths had at least 2 comorbidities. Time to reopen in full swing.
  49. 1 point
    No parents would be great
  50. 1 point
    I really don't like this moving target that Wolf has put out there. He says one thing and then backs off from it. By now everyone should have an understanding as to how easily it spreads. I would venture to say that we will see the use of masks in every day life for a long time. There is not going to be a day when everything goes back to the way it was last November. I could deal with it a lot better if you told me by July 1st (or any date in the next 60 to 90 days) we expect to have things reopened with modifications. Give me some light at the end of the tunnel so I can work to make it happen.
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