Jack Handey

This is another reason that competing youth orgs should not operate under the same roof.  Renegades beware.

How does a for-profit company take over a non-profit charter?  Seems like a big conflict of interest.

There is no central repository.  The locals who make a living on youth hockey will all have promotional material floating around at your rink or in your e-mail Inbox, and the rink ownership will certainly promote as well if they have ice to sell in the off season.  If your local rink shuts down, just visit the next nearest rink that stays open. 

I can't say that I recommend any one specific spring/summer program, clinic, or instructor.  We've done a lot of them over the years. 

I'm not aware of a bad league.  I guess I would caution on RMU 3v3.  This can be fun for your kids but it's not exactly hockey as we know it. 

Regarding camps - most are decent.  All are pricey.

Regarding spring teams, we've had some fun spring team experiences and a handful of questionable ones.  I am aware of a few instructors I would not re-use, but this is clearly subjective and what failed for my kids might be exactly what you need.

RMU/Foxes, NP, and PPE

7 hours ago, ChiefKeef said:

hockey is a rich kids sport

unfortunately also true.  another factor in anyone's journey.

3 hours ago, LGP13 said:

So these "advisors" do it for free?

No.  There are 2 types of advisors.  Type #1 will charge a fee now to help you to promote your player to junior and college teams.  Type #2 is more like an agent.  There is no charge now.  They still promote your player to their network of junior and college coaches.  And if you become a professional, they expect to represent you.  Think Jerry McGuire, show me the money, etc.

9 hours ago, Danner27 said:

along with your coaches having contacts

Yes.  This ^^^ is very true and very important.  You can have a great camp or tournament or showcase in front of scouts, but there are a zillion other players in the field as good as you.  It is sad to say, but no matter how good you are, to get to the next level, you also need references from connected people.  And even then, with good performance and good references, you STILL need a little luck.  So, to all these one-off collections of birth-year superstars at PAHL orgs, let me say: if your coach does not have relationships at the tier II level in junior or NCAA D-I, you are already a few steps behind on your path to junior hockey.  

15 hours ago, Pucks11 said:

Gossip Queen

This message board could be renamed Western PA Hockey Gossip Queens.

On 10/17/2022 at 9:08 PM, dazedandconfused said:

there are some serious issues within the girls program

I'm now informed on this, and agree with @GreatDay4Hcky - a transgression fo sho, but not really scandalous or salacious. You are really holding true to your old handle on the previous msg board.

22 hours ago, Paul Baxter said:

please do a LIKE (pick an emoji) of this thread

That's a cheap way to inflate your forum user ranking points!

2 hours ago, dazedandconfused said:

I know this much.

Are you going to let us know what happened?  

15 hours ago, dazedandconfused said:

Only what I was told

Sure.  Who's the real insider here?

Case in point, a recent Preds 03 worked his way onto a NAHL team this summer.  It appears he had been cut, but now picked up by an NCDC team.  Best of luck to him as he progresses.  That's not bad for coming from one of the faux programs - and further ahead than a lot of his birthyear peers at PPE/Esmark.

32 minutes ago, Danner27 said:

a lot of the dream chasing parents

My observation is that line 1 on the lower teams is interchangeable with line 3 on the higher teams.   There is some talent to be found, but for whatever reason, the kids can't break in to the better squads.  So only choices are to leave town or stay and play with other hopefuls.  Dream chasing fo sho.

1983 was 40 years ago?  Wow we are gettin old.

There has been PAHL talk of "catchment" boundaries in the past, especially with harder to find players such as AA players and female-only teams.  As someone pointed out - it falls apart in the south hills because of rinks' close proximity.  It is noteworthy that the PIHL followed some general geography rules to stand up the inaugural girls league.

I'm for free market and believe consumers should go where they are best served.  I've seen all angles of this and while I think players should be able to change programs, from the perspective of the board of directors:

• we have no problem charging high tryout fees to discourage shopping,
• we have no problem charging high tryout fees to keep the "it's extra ice time" crowd out,
• we have no problem keeping commitment fees (or more) when players walk away after accepting a spot.
• and were it up to me, I would make all participant families sign a contract promising to pay the season fees in full.  

truth be told, there is mud, but this board isn't nearly as salacious as its predecessor.  

but that's half the fun.   !

57 minutes ago, Jack Handey said:

If Mid-Am 15u playoffs started today, the NP vengeance would be in.  Just edging out the NP icemen in the ratings. 

honorable mention to the NP SHAHA panthers who are also in as of today.  I think I'm seeing a trend here.

If Mid-Am 15u playoffs started today, the NP vengeance would be in.  Just edging out the NP icemen in the ratings. 

4 minutes ago, Duster19 said:

I have the solution….need to creat a new level….AAAA?

Or just get rid of Tier II and ban the classifications.  Instead of being "Pirates 18u AAA", you have to wear your rating.  So you would become Pirates 18u 99 or Pirates 18u 85 or whatever.

another interesting trend in the ratings - ever notice how the Chicago AA teams are always near the top?  I think this is because of the NAPHL "show" showcase division, which features Chicago AA teams and a bunch of lower half AAA teams.  The Chicago teams rating are all inflated because most of them play in these showcases against the bottom AAA teams and often win.  I bet if Pgh AA teams played in the "show", they would get that artificial bump too.

well, props to the ppe for playing a local opponent and not by way of force in a tournament.

12 hours ago, forbin said:

I make my 9 year old rewatch every single practice

This was solved years ago with the Hockey Helper Helmet.  Get with the times.

nah I like the conspiracy theory - it's way more entertaining.  There is always some shady stuff going on at this rink.   Let's not forget this was one of two rinks operating during peak COVID.