Wes Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Rumor going around today that Rostraver is/was sold to Black Bear? anyone else hear this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticktime56 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Buddy of mines kid plays for Thunder. He mentioned last week the rink sold but he had no details. I am interested to see if BB bought as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I'm a different thread here, someone said the owner denied it and said the rink was still for sale. So there are at least two different stories floating around and I guess only time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJUSHL Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 If it's a done deal, Black Bear would've issued a press release. They seem to make a big deal out of it when they purchase a new rink. A deal could still be in the works but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Black bear would more than likely be good for that place, along with the programs that play out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Shock Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 That place should be designated a historical landmark. I don’t know of any older rink in Pittsburgh area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Ron Shock said: That place should be designated a historical landmark. I don’t know of any older rink in Pittsburgh area. Nevin is pretty old too, and Armstrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Any updates on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifelongbender Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 8/26/2022 at 11:55 AM, aaaahockey said: Any updates on this one? I talked to someone I consider absolutely reliable tonight. Apparently Rostraver management met with Black Bear representatives last week out at Delmont and signed the papers. As far as I can tell this is a done deal at this point, quite literally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lifelongbender said: I talked to someone I consider absolutely reliable tonight. Apparently Rostraver management met with Black Bear representatives last week out at Delmont and signed the papers. As far as I can tell this is a done deal at this point, quite literally. Thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyisgreat Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Still nothing from Black Bear on their website! Last rink they have listed as purchased is Deep Freeze in Boardman Ohio. I sure hope this is true for the Mon Valley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Lifelongbender said: I talked to someone I consider absolutely reliable tonight. Apparently Rostraver management met with Black Bear representatives last week out at Delmont and signed the papers. As far as I can tell this is a done deal at this point, quite literally. Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFalls Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Hopefully this helps keep the lights on for a resource to the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJUSHL Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) This is a great thing for Mon Valley hockey, but I can't help but think this is another nail in the coffin for PAHL. Is there anyone that doesn't think Black Bear is going to be running the amateur leagues in Pittsburgh within the next year or two? Black Bear is very aggressive and PAHL cannot adapt fast enough. Edited September 13, 2022 by RJUSHL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFalls Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, RJUSHL said: This is a great thing for Mon Valley hockey, but I can't help but think this is another nail in the coffin for PAHL. Is there anyone that doesn't think Black Bear is going to be running the amateur leagues in Pittsburgh within the next year or two? Black Bear is very aggressive and PAHL cannot adapt fast enough. This is very possible and may be a good thing. Idk enough about both organizations but I have to think there is way too much pandering to creating travel hockey for kids who should only be playing in-house (soak up that money so you can brag about your kids game 3 hours away even if it is B hockey). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyisgreat Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, RJUSHL said: This is a great thing for Mon Valley hockey, but I can't help but think this is another nail in the coffin for PAHL. Is there anyone that doesn't think Black Bear is going to be running the amateur leagues in Pittsburgh within the next year or two? Black Bear is very aggressive and PAHL cannot adapt fast enough. Black Bear might be very aggressive! I would have thought that they would have put pressure on Allegheny and South Pittsburgh to leave the PAHL this year! It seems that most of the AHF has very high level teams. Not sure they want to get into the low levels of Squirt, PeeWee and Bantam. The PAHL might wide up being very watered down with maybe half as many teams but I think there are still enough rinks and organizations within SWPA for the Pahl to exist. Just my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadday4hockey Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 And the old windbags at MidAm will fiddle while the PAHL burns. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis8679 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 To force anyone to leave PAHL, those teams need still need other teams to play. So there's still no alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyisgreat Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just depends on how far you are willing to go to get competitive teams to play! I'm still not real sure of the rationale the Badgers used to go 16U Independent this year instead of playing a PAHL schedule and then all those independent games. Pretty sure Renegades, Wildcats, Preds, Rebellion and Arrows would give them good games in 16U AA PAHL this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 100% confirmed to me the other day, BB does own it. This should be good for that old place. Real Zamboni ? Doubt that anything can be done with the concrete boards. Edited September 16, 2022 by Danner27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear and Magic Helmet Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 11 hours ago, Danner27 said: 100% confirmed to me the other day, BB does own it. This should be good for that old place. Real Zamboni ? Doubt they anything can be done with the concrete boards. Should be good for Jim Murphy too. It seems like he's been trying to get out of the hockey business for longer than he's been in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifelongbender Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Danner27 said: 100% confirmed to me the other day, BB does own it. This should be good for that old place. Real Zamboni ? Doubt they anything can be done with the concrete boards. It's hard to see what can be done to improve Rostraver. I have been thinking that maybe they'll build a new facility in that big parking lot and then tear the old one down. Need to stay open during construction to honor existing contracts after all. In theory they could fill in the existing rink and then build a new one at the level of the top of the existing boards. I have always assumed that the boards were built that way because they also act as retaining structures for fill under the stands, so removing and replacing them isn't much of an option. Even if that's not true, you'd still have a concrete slab at the back of the boards for the entire perimeter of the rink, except the Zamboni entrance and the two stairwells at the entrance end. I will say that I was there a couple days ago and it sure seemed like the dehumidifiers were not running. The glass was more or less completely opaque due to water condensation on it, and the players were complaining about the ice, too. Edited September 14, 2022 by Lifelongbender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I can't imagine someone buying it to tear it down and build a new rink if they paid anything close to what I heard Murphy was asking. There is a lot of land out there in the middle of nowhere that would have to be cheaper unless there is something else to salvage in the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 If this is "100% true" I am hopeful that BB will make some BADLY needed short term repairs... Nothing but best wishes for Jim. He deserves a nice relaxing retirement. He's worked so hard on this place for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carroll81 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Wes said: If this is "100% true" I am hopeful that BB will make some BADLY needed short term repairs... Nothing but best wishes for Jim. He deserves a nice relaxing retirement. He's worked so hard on this place for many years. My experience with BB operations in the East is that they do not rush in to update the rink. Unless there is some kind of emergency, don't get your hopes up for any updates this season. Maybe next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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