Besides Pens Elite, which 14U AA or AAA teams/programs from Western Pennsylvania do not play in PAHL?

If you know it, please add:

• what league/circuit they play (THF, T1EHL, independent, etc.)
• how they’ve been this year and historically at 14U (even just your impression or a link)

Edited December 28, 2025Dec 28 by XPs
removed 12U

Usually you have Preds and Esmark and then a random team here or there.  Rebellion I think was independent last year.  Icemen sometimes have Tier II independent teams.  Honestly other than Esmark in the distant past I don't think any of them have done particularly well.  In my limited experience THF is largely a crappy league.  

Edited December 29, 2025Dec 29 by aaaahockey

Sometimes the Allegheny Badgers, Rebellion, and Aviators will have a team not play PAHL and play independent.  It’s team specific.  
 

Icemen play in the THF or AHF depending on the team. I think Predators do the same.  There are the non-PAHL Vemgeance teams.  Mercyhurst plays in independent schedule.  

On 12/29/2025 at 11:32 AM, aaaahockey said:

Usually you have Preds and Esmark and then a random team here or there.  Rebellion I think was independent last year.  Icemen sometimes have Tier II independent teams.  Honestly other than Esmark in the distant past I don't think any of them have done particularly well.  In my limited experience THF is largely a crappy league.  

For 14U Vengeance is ranked 20th in the country 

3 hours ago, hockeydadx3 said:

For 14U Vengeance is ranked 20th in the country 

Assuming he is looking towards next year.  That U13 vengeance team is 92nd.  Also congrats on being 20.