January 7Jan 7 47 minutes ago, Carl Racki said: My point is match penalties shouldn't be handed out like candy. You are correct, if the player swore at the ref there can be repercussions. Usually that would be an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, 10 minute misconduct or a game misconduct. Just like in school there should be a punishment but shouldn't go directly to being expelled. That to would be ridiculous. Yes the match penalties for removing the helmet is fine as it is a rule. I just get concerned when I see so many match penalties in one game. Now if they used hateful or discriminatory language that too would require a match. A match is not something taken lightly. It shouldn't be used as a weapon. I don't know the circumstances in this game but seems like a lot of match penalties and should probably be looked into. Swearingen at a ref definitely should be punished, but a match? I agree with you. I have also seen a ref have a kid yell and swear at him while the ref was removing the kid for fighting, the ref didn’t say a word and just removed him from the ice. The kid then flipped off the whole crowd. Only penalties the kid got was for the fight.
January 7Jan 7 On 1/6/2026 at 1:39 PM, James Gatz said: Hilarious Freudian slip. Wish I could take credit for it.
January 8Jan 8 On 1/7/2026 at 10:01 AM, XPs said: A reflection of a poor team culture and lack of discipline, and that responsibility ultimately falls on the coach. Well if you ever met that coach then it would make sense
January 8Jan 8 On 1/7/2026 at 2:10 PM, Happy Hockey Fan said: Swearingen at a ref definitely should be punished, but a match? I agree with you. I have also seen a ref have a kid yell and swear at him while the ref was removing the kid for fighting, the ref didn’t say a word and just removed him from the ice. The kid then flipped off the whole crowd. Only penalties the kid got was for the fight. The match penalty tells you that the player didn't simply swear at the official and that the language escalated to something that USA hockey deems as being "hateful or discriminatory in nature". I agree that simply swearing at a ref or an opposing player does not rise to the level of a match, but using some of the "magic words" that fall under "hateful or discriminatory" does according to USA Hockey.
January 8Jan 8 6 minutes ago, Corsi said: The match penalty tells you that the player didn't simply swear at the official and that the language escalated to something that USA hockey deems as being "hateful or discriminatory in nature". I agree that simply swearing at a ref or an opposing player does not rise to the level of a match, but using some of the "magic words" that fall under "hateful or discriminatory" does according to USA Hockey. I have first hand seen a player get a match for saying "that's fucking bullshit" about a call against him. While it's certainly not the right way for a 17 year old to speak to an adult referee, handing out a match is a disgrace.
January 8Jan 8 29 minutes ago, Corsi said: The match penalty tells you that the player didn't simply swear at the official and that the language escalated to something that USA hockey deems as being "hateful or discriminatory in nature". I agree that simply swearing at a ref or an opposing player does not rise to the level of a match, but using some of the "magic words" that fall under "hateful or discriminatory" does according to USA Hockey. I understand that if one of the “magic words” was used why it was a match.
January 10Jan 10 On 1/7/2026 at 1:20 PM, Carl Racki said: My point is match penalties shouldn't be handed out like candy. You are correct, if the player swore at the ref there can be repercussions. Usually that would be an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, 10 minute misconduct or a game misconduct. Just like in school there should be a punishment but shouldn't go directly to being expelled. That to would be ridiculous. Yes the match penalties for removing the helmet is fine as it is a rule. I just get concerned when I see so many match penalties in one game. Now if they used hateful or discriminatory language that too would require a match. A match is not something taken lightly. It shouldn't be used as a weapon. I don't know the circumstances in this game but seems like a lot of match penalties and should probably be looked into. My understanding is that players that received a match weren’t just swearing, instead used phrases such as s*** my d*** and you’re r******d. Use your imagination. If that’s true than a match is absolutely warranted for that type of conduct.
January 10Jan 10 All the parents complaining about the players behavior? Look in the damn mirror. Monkey see monkey do. When it comes to egregious actions, the responsibility always lies with the player first. Then the parents Then the coach Then the refs/league/USA Hockey Then the courts and judicial system Parents who continue to excuse their kid's actions get exactly what they deserve.
January 16Jan 16 On 1/10/2026 at 11:19 AM, deanyoungblood said: My understanding is that players that received a match weren’t just swearing, instead used phrases such as s*** my d*** and you’re r******d. Use your imagination. If that’s true than a match is absolutely warranted for that type of conduct. Yes, that is how it is supposed to be. I have no idea if that was the case though. If so they earned it. I have seen officials give match penalties where players did not use any magic words Or meet the other criteria. I have no idea what was said hear. Just seems like a lot for one game lol
January 17Jan 17 4 hours ago, Carl Racki said: Yes, that is how it is supposed to be. I have no idea if that was the case though. If so they earned it. I have seen officials give match penalties where players did not use any magic words Or meet the other criteria. I have no idea what was said hear. Just seems like a lot for one game lol Give me a break. You’re acting like they gave out 20 match penalties.
January 20Jan 20 On 1/6/2026 at 1:32 PM, carroll81 said: Remember that Hateful or Discriminatory language now requires a Match. It can be a very innocuous word that teenagers may use regularly to friends and they slip and say it to an opponent or official. If heard, requires a Match. Such is the word we live in now. What a weird comment. Why would it be okay to use hateful or discriminatory language around friends? If someone calls somebody the n-word or a f@ggot or something like that, it's just, "Whoops. Sorry, I didn't mean it. Me and my friends talk like that and I just said it out of habit." ?
January 22Jan 22 On 1/20/2026 at 1:13 AM, nemesis8679 said: What a weird comment. Why would it be okay to use hateful or discriminatory language around friends? If someone calls somebody the n-word or a f@ggot or something like that, it's just, "Whoops. Sorry, I didn't mean it. Me and my friends talk like that and I just said it out of habit." ? Have you been near high school students when they are just hanging out lately? Do you know the lyrics in the music they are listening to? Have you overheard talk on the benches during a game?
January 22Jan 22 On 1/10/2026 at 5:39 PM, sadday4hockey said: Look in the damn mirror. Monkey see monkey do. I refer you back to this exhibit, with one small change. Do your damn job!! If your own child is acting like a jackass on the ice all the time, that's 100% on the parenting.
January 24Jan 24 On 1/22/2026 at 11:15 AM, carroll81 said: Have you been near high school students when they are just hanging out lately? Do you know the lyrics in the music they are listening to? Have you overheard talk on the benches during a game? Oh OK. It's perfectly fine, then?
January 24Jan 24 13 minutes ago, nemesis8679 said: Oh OK. It's perfectly fine, then? It's not that it's "fine". But if you've been around 14-18 year olds, it's most certainly not uncommon to hear these things said....
January 25Jan 25 4 hours ago, Icebucket said: It's not that it's "fine". But if you've been around 14-18 year olds, it's most certainly not uncommon to hear these things said.... Exactly!
January 25Jan 25 Kids will follow the lead of the coach and it’s evident with the Allegheny coach. When you can hear him dropping F bombs at an official from across the building it’s no surprise. Does the organization hold him accountable?
January 26Jan 26 22 hours ago, HockeyFan6687 said: Kids will follow the lead of the coach and it’s evident with the Allegheny coach. When you can hear him dropping F bombs at an official from across the building it’s no surprise. Does the organization hold him accountable? Allegheny organization holding someone accountable? That's a laugh.
January 26Jan 26 On 1/24/2026 at 10:40 PM, HockeyFan6687 said: Kids will follow the lead of the coach and it’s evident with the Allegheny coach. When you can hear him dropping F bombs at an official from across the building it’s no surprise. Does the organization hold him accountable? Nah. He’s drinking buddies with the man in charge. lol
January 27Jan 27 On 1/24/2026 at 2:57 PM, Icebucket said: It's not that it's "fine". But if you've been around 14-18 year olds, it's most certainly not uncommon to hear these things said.... Are we talking about casual use of the “N” word? Sorry I can’t keep up with the excuses on here.
January 27Jan 27 4 hours ago, CranjisMcBasketball said: Are we talking about casual use of the “N” word? Sorry I can’t keep up with the excuses on here. I was not. But a number of the other "key words" are common vocabulary for many teenagers.
January 28Jan 28 15 hours ago, Icebucket said: I was not. But a number of the other "key words" are common vocabulary for many teenagers. It is not just the casual use of the "N" word, but it has been a point of emphasis for USA Hockey officials for the past handful of years for any word that is homophobic or describes a disability... think of a word that starts with an "R". Those will all qualify as leading to a match penalty during a game, regardless of if the player uses it in the hallway at school or when out with his buddies. There was a local player that was assessed a match penalty at MidAm's last year for saying the "R" word I referenced above, and he missed the remainder of that weekend (it happened in the 1st period of the 1st game) as well as his current teams 1st game this season. Essentially a 5 minute major and a 4 game suspension.
January 29Jan 29 15 hours ago, Corsi said: It is not just the casual use of the "N" word, but it has been a point of emphasis for USA Hockey officials for the past handful of years for any word that is homophobic or describes a disability... think of a word that starts with an "R". Those will all qualify as leading to a match penalty during a game, regardless of if the player uses it in the hallway at school or when out with his buddies. There was a local player that was assessed a match penalty at MidAm's last year for saying the "R" word I referenced above, and he missed the remainder of that weekend (it happened in the 1st period of the 1st game) as well as his current teams 1st game this season. Essentially a 5 minute major and a 4 game suspension. Justice was served.
March 1Mar 1 Pens Elite 16 U 3 Predators 16 U 2 https://gamesheetstats.com/seasons/14294/games/2810456?configuration[compact-view]=true&configuration[primary-colour]=BF242B&configuration[secondary-colour]=28438E So this tells me that the Pens Elite 16 U beat the Predators 16 U Team in a shootout by 1 goal. Sorry I missed it. The Predators AAA/AA are filled with very good High School Hockey Hockey Players who are encouraged not to play High School Hockey and the majority of these kids (over 80%) will end up in ACHA M1 if they dont make DIII NCAA. And can do so after High School. ALL of these kids should be playing High School Hockey until they turn 19. And can do so with High School Friendly organizations who keep the game count under 60 Total per year (4-5 games a week) and focus on quality instead of quantity. Then players will not be burned out from running all over the country. Edited March 2Mar 2 by Pa Hockey
March 2Mar 2 17 hours ago, Pa Hockey said: Pens Elite 16 U 3 Predators 16 U 2 https://gamesheetstats.com/seasons/14294/games/2810456?configuration[compact-view]=true&configuration[primary-colour]=BF242B&configuration[secondary-colour]=28438E So this tells me that the Pens Elite 16 U beat the Predators 16 U Team in a shootout by 1 goal. Sorry I missed it. The Predators AAA/AA are filled with very good High School Hockey Hockey Players who are encouraged not to play High School Hockey and the majority of these kids (over 80%) will end up in ACHA M1 if they dont make DIII NCAA. And can do so after High School. ALL of these kids should be playing High School Hockey until they turn 19. And can do so with High School Friendly organizations who keep the game count under 60 Total per year (4-5 games a week) and focus on quality instead of quantity. Then players will not be burned out from running all over the country. The post is so nice you gotta send it twice???
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