aaaahockey Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, Danner27 said: You guys are arguing over squirts ? I'm not even sure I can follow what they are arguing about to be honest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) No argument here. The question is how is a for-profit allowed to co-mingle and interoperate with a non-profit. Edited September 3, 2020 by Jack Handey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jack Handey said: No argument here. The question is how is a for-profit allowed to co-mingle and interoperate with a non-profit. Separate budgets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckHead7 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Jack Handey said: No argument here. The question is how is a for-profit allowed to co-mingle and interoperate with a non-profit. Not on a Vengeance team or an SCIR team, but was in the past. Bottom line, the Vengeance is rostered by SCIR and they buy some ice from SCIR. Otherwise no affiliation! The collect their own fees and pay their own expenses. SCIR teams do NOT subsidize any part of the Vengeance organization. Squirt minor has been the only exception in playing PAHL for the first year. Even at that, they pay all PAHL fees and game fees. Get over yourselves! I guess it’s at least hockey talk and not F'ing CoVid Politics. Edited September 3, 2020 by PuckHead7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, PuckHead7 said: Not on a Vengeance team or an SCIR team, but was in the past. Bottom line, the Vengeance is rostered by SCIR and they buy some ice from SCIR. Otherwise no affiliation! The collect their own fees and pay their own expenses. SCIR teams do NOT subsidize any part of the Vengeance organization. Squirt minor has been the only exception in playing PAHL for the first year. Even at that, they pay all PAHL fees and game fees. Get over yourselves! I guess it’s at least hockey talk and not F'ing CoVid Politics. The good dr owns the rink and vengeance, Scir buys ice from him. You are correct about USA hockey roster software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 SCIR buys ice from rink. Vengeance buys ice from SCIR. But Vengeance and rink are owned by same guy? Why wouldn't Vengeance just buy ice from the rink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckHead7 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Danner27 said: The good dr owns the rink and vengeance, Scir buys ice from him. You are correct about USA hockey roster software. Wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckHead7 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jack Handey said: SCIR buys ice from rink. Vengeance buys ice from SCIR. But Vengeance and rink are owned by same guy? Why wouldn't Vengeance just buy ice from the rink? They buy ice from both! Complicated, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) So rink ownership and Vengeance ownership are not the same? Edited September 3, 2020 by Jack Handey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckHead7 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Just now, Jack Handey said: So rink ownership and Vengeance ownership are not the same? That’s the conclusion that you came to? Ownership and being the same business or not are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 Here's another question. If my red helmet team decides to don blue sweaters and play in PAHL, do I get invoiced twice for season fees? One from Vengeance and one from SCIR? Or is it just one invoice? If so, from who? SCIR? Vengeance? Venegades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadday4hockey Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I think you're just trolling now. And instead of asking on here, why not ask the SCIR Board or Vengeance management? Because you're trolling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 55 minutes ago, PuckHead7 said: Wrong! No it’s really not, he owns the rink and the vengeance. I personally know him. You can say money is changing pockets however you like but in the end he is the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, Jack Handey said: So rink ownership and Vengeance ownership are not the same? No it’s the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckHead7 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 56 minutes ago, sadday4hockey said: I think you're just trolling now. And instead of asking on here, why not ask the SCIR Board or Vengeance management? Because you're trolling. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckHead7 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 54 minutes ago, Danner27 said: No it’s really not, he owns the rink and the vengeance. I personally know him. You can say money is changing pockets however you like but in the end he is the owner. Want his number? I know him also, 18+ years. Well before he was a rink owner. Whoop ta Di do! Simply put, yes the money all still goes to the rink. But let me clarify, the Vengeance buy some of SCIRs contracted ice. Note the word SOME. You think that you know friggin everything because, ooooh, a couple of your kids played for the PPE. So what, others know a bunch and have been around the block also. I’ll get back to my reading and laughing now. Especially at Quinlan.Peace Out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckHead7 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jack Handey said: Here's another question. If my red helmet team decides to don blue sweaters and play in PAHL, do I get invoiced twice for season fees? One from Vengeance and one from SCIR? Or is it just one invoice? If so, from who? SCIR? Vengeance? Venegades? I think it’s funny that you even care. What’s the difference, as long as they pay their bill to whoever. When they started the 08’s, I believe, the thought was that the minor year of squirts would get 16 games or so in PAHL AA in Pittsburgh. Limiting the travel, somewhat, for a 9 year old. Go ahead, put them down for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Jack Handey said: Here's another question. If my red helmet team decides to don blue sweaters and play in PAHL, do I get invoiced twice for season fees? One from Vengeance and one from SCIR? Or is it just one invoice? If so, from who? SCIR? Vengeance? Venegades? You are still pissing and moaning about 9-10 year old hockey players? ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, PuckHead7 said: Want his number? I know him also, 18+ years. Well before he was a rink owner. Whoop ta Di do! Simply put, yes the money all still goes to the rink. But let me clarify, the Vengeance buy some of SCIRs contracted ice. Note the word SOME. You think that you know friggin everything because, ooooh, a couple of your kids played for the PPE. So what, others know a bunch and have been around the block also. I’ll get back to my reading and laughing now. Especially at Quinlan.Peace Out! I have his number. You just said it yourself ? the money all goes to the rink, The rink is owned by the same guy that also owns the vengeance. it’s just moving money around. Edited September 4, 2020 by Danner27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 18 hours ago, fafa fohi said: You are still pissing and moaning about 9-10 year old hockey players? I haven't said a thing about squirts but since you brought it up, why does this PAHL rule apply to PPE squirts but not Venegades squirts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbin Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jack Handey said: I haven't said a thing about squirts but since you brought it up, why does this PAHL rule apply to PPE squirts but not Venegades squirts? Is this because PPE is the only "official" Tier 1 association in the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jack Handey said: I haven't said a thing about squirts but since you brought it up, why does this PAHL rule apply to PPE squirts but not Venegades squirts? You have been talking about Squirt teams since you started this nonsensical argument........ABOUT 9-10 YEAR OLDS. Other Vengeance teams ( U12, U14 ) are not double rostered on SCIR teams. Lobotomy please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Handey Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 Apparently Gary can't read and can't or won't answer a simple question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKCHECKING Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, Jack Handey said: I haven't said a thing about squirts but since you brought it up, why does this PAHL rule apply to PPE squirts but not Venegades squirts? Correct me if I am wrong. Tier rankings do not start until Peewee that is why the Vengeance only play 1st year squirts in PAHL as well as an independent schedule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKCHECKING Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, forbin said: Is this because PPE is the only "official" Tier 1 association in the area? It is because PPE thinks they are above everyone. Look at 66pensmom24 comments, kids playing PAHL are not on a real hockey team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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