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35 minutes ago, Danner27 said:
YES
The majority of acha m1 is really good hockey. Just like real tier 1 hockey, there is big difference though between top 25 teams.
for the most part yes, many kids also leave ncaa d3 to play acha m1. There is a reason ncaa d3 teams don’t schedule with acha m1 very often anymore.
The tier 3 junior parent has showed up.
buddy, my kids are done. I hang around to keep up with Pahl (my niece plays) also, maybe I can help some parent from getting suckered into the money making machine, going into massive credit card debt or re mortgaging their house because a coach sold them a line of BS. There will always be status parents (my kid is playing junior hockey in Canada! Meanwhile it’s the nojhl OR GTML - My kid plays AAA hockey! Meanwhile the team is already out of the district tourney, the team can’t even skate with ppe or midget esmark) these parents have no problem dumping cash for a dead end, that’s their prerogative. Spend your money how you want! It’s yours! But I’ve also known parents that have been deceptively talked into the bs of tier 3 juniors & faux AAA, not knowing any better for multiple different reasons. I am here to share information & my experiences for these folks. If it saves them some money and headaches for the kid - GREAT! For 99% of the youth hockey players in North America it all ends the same.
My player is actually still not at the junior hockey age. My nephews have been through it now and I have learned some things along the way.
Just trying to provide some perspective for those that are trying to navigate through all of this.
Most parents with players your kids age stopped posting on here a long time ago.
I guess you’re just trying to come to peace with how you spent your money.
Paths according to Danner:
Pens and Esmark for several years at a price tag of at least 15k a year including fees and travel to Minnesota 4 or 5 times a year to end up in “Top 25” ACHA M1. This is acceptable.
Versus Faux AAA hockey with less travel and expense and a year or two of Tier 3 juniors (still coming in well below the above cost) also ending up in “Top 25” ACHA M1. This is not acceptable.
You are also saying that Adrian’s ACHA M1 team would beat their NCAA D3 team?
You also did not answer my post about Liberty and Adrian’s M1 team having several NA3 and USPHL Premier players on them.
And you are correct it all ends the same but the money spent to get there or the price tag for that education is not the same for all.
I agree that there are a lot good hockey players in top programs in ACHA M1. There are also a lot of good hockey players in top programs in NCAA D3.
As you are sharing your wisdom try not to be so short sided.
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13 hours ago, Danner27 said:
You would be speaking mainly of the 2 & 3 divisions. Go take a look at acha M1 teams such as Adrian, lindenwood, liberty etc. locally ? Sure some of the faux aaa kids get onto the local M1 teams but I think that’s only rmu, pitt & Wvu locally playing m1 ? Rmu has a really nice team this year, especially with one of the Ncaa kids on the team. Most local acha teams are m2 & m3. WVU is awful - not a m1 team.
I have never been negative towards AA hockey, not sure where you are getting that! I am a supporter of Pahl AA, it’s one of the reasons I call out the faux AAA teams. Hey look! It’s not even mid October, at 18u - icemen, vengeance & predators are already out of the district tournament! Mt Lebanon is still hanging in there but culver has not played yet, they will eventually enter in around the 2-3 position making Mt Lebanon fight it out with Cleveland & Indy for the final spot (6).
Looked at the M1 programs you referenced and it appears they have several NA3HL and USPHL Premier players on them. You have made several derogatory remarks against Juniors Tier 3 as well. Just trying to understand what is acceptable vs what is not to you.
Correct me if I am wrong based on your previous posts:
1) Pens and Esmark only AAA hockey worth it. Even if it means that you spend all that money to travel for your player to end up in ACHA.
2) ACHA M1 is okay but only if you played for top AAA youth programs or NAHL or NCDC. Not Tier 3 Juniors.
3) NCAA D3 is accessible to anyone that has the money to pay for it. Still not as good as ACHA M1 top 25 programs.
You say that you do not have an axe to grind but I think you do.
My belief is that it is all acceptable and should be enjoyed by both the player and their families.
Stop hating dude !!
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4 hours ago, Danner27 said:
Not many. Acha M1 is very good hockey. It’s full of kids that played AAA from real programs, some nahl, ncdc and various Canadian tier 2 juniors.
And full of kids who played PAHL, High School, and the Faux teams that you make fun of. Get off your high horse dude.
Preds birth year teams all playing independent schedule
in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
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That’s great that Adrian’s M1 team is getting that much production from their 4th line. 3rd leading scorer is a freshman that dare we say played for Wooster last year in Tier 3 hockey.
I really do have a serious question for you if you are willing to educate me as I really am not sure about this one.
Do these top ACHA teams allow you to play for free? Also do they help find academic and other scholarship money for you?
I know some players that are attending some private universities with NCAA D3 hockey with about 50k a year price tag for the price of going to Community College.
Just want to know my options if these opportunities come our way in a few years from now.