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  2. I thought maybe one of the teams was playing an illegal goalie
  3. Most scientific studies are done without "complete data", researchers compile enough data to form a representative population size and use that as the basis for a conclusion. There are and always will be outliers, and those are normally not used because they are so outside of what the expected norm would be. Obviously, we are not doing medical research here, but this comment is correct, based off of what is shown, the missing data would have to skew dramatically one way or another to significantly move the overall results one way or another. There's probably enough provided here to be pretty confident that the 50% number is representative of the whole give or take a few percentage points one way or another. Maybe assume that number would fall in the 47%-53% range. Thoughts?
  4. You definitely seem to think that NAHL tenders have no value. But if you take the current incomplete number, and complete the number with more information, it seems that the missing data would have to be a whole lot worse than the 60% incomplete number to decrease the total to even below 50%. And 50% success rate seems to be a pretty decent number for kids making a team with a tender. But maybe you can compile the rest of the data and complete the graph to prove my theory wrong.
  5. The "doubter" prefers a full set of data, that's all. That's what makes it factual. I could take partial sets of data and manipulate it many ways until it fit a narrative just as you have. I'll continue doubting until you provide a full set of facts. Enjoy.
  6. I think you quoted the wrong person, but I'd love to see how many of the tenders versus draft picks were on that team's roster at season's end. Too big of a job for me to do.
  7. The article states at the outset that it used the "available data" and doesn't yet have it for many teams. Let's see what the full set of data shows.
  8. Eyeballing that graph, looks like about 60% of tenders last year across the whole league were still with team in October. Honestly, that was about what I'd expect. No guarantee, but a decent shot at the team if you get one.
  9. Thought you might find this interesting. Rink Live looked into NAHL tenders. Far more stick around than you think. https://www.therinklive.com/junior-and-prospects/nahl/analysis-of-nahl-tenders-signed-in-2022-23-shows-which-teams-follow-through-the-most
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  11. I don’t think the 6 year old is choosing to do all of this skating on his own. My point was that this kid is being forced to do 4 week long hockey camps at the age of six. Not healthy. And even if the kid wanted to do all of them, the parent shouldn’t let it happen. It is unhealthy for the child. Both mentally and physically.
  12. Right…unless the guy is asking for an opinion (or asking if he would offer his firsthand knowledge and experience as an expert on minor/amateur youth hockey). I’d suggest that the best approach is to not give unilateral advice. Frankly, this point should not be assumed and glossed over as it rings true in a lot of facets of life. With that being said, I find it hard to believe that a 6 year-old has enough foresight and understanding of what their actual goals are and the commitment that is required for any of it to move along on a scale that is appropriate for a kindergartner’s age level of understanding. Not to mention, this is coupled with the obvious role where the “yes” parent is going along with the 6 year-olds wishes without any pause to contemplate anyone’s future. For a parent to knowingly accommodate all of these wishes made by a 6 year-old child; it demonstrates a slew of red flags…none of which appear more obvious than the parent’s lack of a restraining governor. I’ll admit that I’m making several assumptions in this case (i. e. child’s age being truly 6 years old; the lack of an occasionally oppositional parent AND THEIR involvement (or really anyone with a backbone that’s willing to simply say “no” to the child and parent). It’s easy for me to draw such a straw man’s analogy with obvious labels. Regardless, just going off a fraction of what has been described thus far…this is still nothing short of a parent acting as an enabler of the child. It’s a disservice on many levels.
  13. Agree but where are the “coaches” telling them to avoid doing this to their kid? Oh that’s right too busy collecting money off these kids as they provide the 5-6 private sessions per week. They know it’s insanity but if it avoids getting a real job like some of these guys fail to do. I’m not opposed to paying a coach but there’s a few trying to make a living off of promising parents like that guy mentioned above so here we are. ice hockey here is a sort of a hypocrisy. Don’t play year round but those involved in rink management encourage it to keep the doors open. Don’t burn your kid out but hey line my pockets 4-6 times per week. And if some of these spring hockey teams say it’s extra beneficial ice time in the off season guess again! No practice. No instruction. Just games!
  14. The concern is for the kid. That much hockey isn’t good for him at age six, mentally or physically. It will hurt him in some way. But getting burnt out or losing interest isn’t my concern. I will mind my own business because I agree that I probably won’t make a difference.
  15. Probably the best way to handle it is to mind your own business. Let him raise his kids the way he sees fit. I don't know why everyone is concerned about how much hockey someone plays. If he gets burnt out or loses interest, so be it.
  16. Agreed. They won't listen anyway and some programs encourage that crap so it's a waste of your time.
  17. Nah don't bother. Those folks don't want to hear it. If anything, just say what you do with your own kid because of your own concern with burn out etc and then let it go.
  18. This is absurd. This kid should be out playing with friends and experiencing other sports such as soccer, baseball, lacrosse, etc. Maybe level with him and see if there are any solid articles that detail the benefits of diversifying one's life at such a young age.
  19. Talked to a guy yesterday, his 6 yd is going to 4 hockey camps this summer. I asked him if his son plays deck hockey too. He said he doesn’t have time for it because his son is on the ice 5-6 days a week. What is the correct way to let this guy know he is hurting his son?
  20. My son as since aged out, but he started skating at 4 and the question my wife and I asked him all the time was "Are you having fun", "Was that fun", "Are you still having fun"... we did it constantly, to the point that it probably annoyed him but it was because we always wanted to be sure that he was doing what he wanted to do and not what we wanted him to be doing. Let your player have fun, progress at their own pace, and then make your choices about what to do based on what they want to do along with what your personal time and financial limitations allow. Most people realize that the odds are against any player/anywhere in the world going pro so ignore the criticisms you are going to hear from other people and parents about things like where you are choosing to play, where you are choosing to spend your money, and how much money you are spending. People (especially on this board) like to be critical of the choices people make even though it has zero impact on them directly. Do what is best for your player and your family, ask questions when you have them, ignore the negative, and make sure they are having fun.
  21. Thank You. We certainly don't dislike traveling to new rinks or possibly playing a few more tournaments. We just found a program that works for him in North Pittsburgh and went with there development model. He did do one of the First Line Events full ice mite teams this spring. Which he is currently finishing up and that seemed to help him better understand the game a little more from a full ice perspective. He really enjoyed the different style of game from half ice to full ice. He also plays soccer, so the full ice game seemed to carry some similarities to soccer with having to be in position. I am trying to make sure I give him all of the opportunities to advance in hockey however I don't want to be overwhelming considering he is only 7. Since he started playing organized hockey last spring, he has pretty much been on the ice every week since then. I always ask him, hey do you want to do this and let him tell me what he wants to do.
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