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  1. Just get on their mailing list, they will email you every day. 😳
    5 points
  2. Congratulations to 2021 SCS Girls 14U - Bronze Medal 16U - Silver Medal 19U - Bronze Medal
    4 points
  3. I haven't had kids at local tryouts for a number of years. But, I remember all to well and wish I knew then what I know now. My two sense....I'll never forget the year my kid played AAA - then at the end of the year a ton of kids crossed over from another competitive AAA organization to try out because this one was first. Two teams were being put together ~ the Gold (national) and Black team. After a week of tryouts, my son's current coach pulled him aside and told him he was going to suggest a difficult decision for him. He was going to put him on the black team. He felt the black tea
    4 points
  4. I have spent $0 or very very little on any private instructions. His instructions has been included in the programs he has been involved in. I have however invested in private stregth coach and have saw the benifits of it and can not say enough about spending your time and money in this aspect over pouring in money on private lessons. Mutiple sports is so important. When it comes down to any sport including hockey, I think the best players are the best athletes and have control and cordinations of their bodies. It is so hard so many people are trying to keep up and think playing sports 365 is
    4 points
  5. A AAA team that plays a mostly AA schedule and goes .500 against them is not a good investment
    3 points
  6. Good articles from 200x85.com https://200x85.com/what-every-parent-player-should-know-about-tryouts/ WHAT EVERY PARENT/PLAYER SHOULD KNOW ABOUT TRYOUTS April 30, 2019 by 200x85admin comme nts (0) With Team Tryouts fast approaching we hope all clubs will run a thorough and fair selection process. This can be a time of happiness or complete disappointment for families. There is stress, pressure and even politics with some unsavory clubs. Will mistakes be made? Only time will tell – but if a process is in place then the mistakes should be mi
    3 points
  7. Not for the birth years I know, the black teams could not compete with the “elite” teams. I’m taking 99 down to 03. I’m pretty confident all the kids on those black bantam teams were all dumped by ppe going into U15, yet they pushed a good amount of them through the district camp. The Ohio Blue Jackets, along with Culver had a fallen out with mid am over this about 3-4 years ago.
    2 points
  8. The reason why our locals don't have mentality is because they value games over practice. NCAA DI hockey programs play 30 games a year but 12 year olds need to play 60 games. Even NHL players have over 2 practices per game if you include game day skates.
    2 points
  9. I don't want to over dramatize this because I haven't seen every team or every kid but from what I have seen at the squirt and peewee levels (changes as they get older) these teams do struggle to play a team game. There is a lot of puck hogging, selfish play, skating down the boards with heads down, over decking, and it works well against medium to high talent and they lose against the elite talent (which is why despite being ranked in the top 10 they feel a need to bring in outside help as the kids age). That being said the kids are very skilled so it does work sometimes. A lot
    2 points
  10. I do see them from Esmark.
    2 points
  11. hey popcorn... Do some meaningful research before you start spouting shit outa your pie hole! A couple years ago (2017 maybe?) I looked at the historical girls hockey registration numbers for all of USAH for the previous 10 years. Mid-Am historically ranks very near the bottom in total girls registration numbers by district and might be dead last at the National bound levels when compared to all of the other USAH Districts. Add to it that Mid-Am's numbers are spread across 5 states..... and just maybe you can see why there are not that many teams to compete against. If I remember correctly, if
    2 points
  12. Yes, He went from the Predators to the GOJHL. ~ Then to Johnstown. You cannot say his time at the predators had nothing to do with it. He was cut from both Esmark and Pens. There is a heck of a lot of players that played at both Esmark and Pens that never moved to juniors at any level. I bet he's glad his parents didn't read this board and see your comments. You are misleading people. I do recall this remark from you: If someone thinks playing midget “AAA” at the predators or icemen is going to get their kid somewhere, I’ve got a bridge to nowhere they can buy and I’ll sell it much cheap
    2 points
  13. Also of note about Minnesota, the best kids do not play amateur hockey ( AAA, AA, etc ) - they play for their high school. So it is completely different than how it is here, where for some top level kids play HS hockey they play as a supplement to their amateur hockey, whereas in MN it is all about HS hockey. Hell, they televise their HS games on local TV channels.
    2 points
  14. I was thinking Esmark got a bid because their 18 team won districts last year and Nationals were cancelled. just a side note: the Johnstown Tomahawks of the NAHL drafted a kid last year from western PA that played his 18U year as a Predator. I believe he was cut at tryouts from the Pens and Esmark. Bet he's glad his parents didn't read you comments about how FAUX his team was and a waste of money.
    2 points
  15. so you all think pens should take only local kids when every other top 5 AAA team at 16 and 18 has kids from across the globe. if pens did that at 16 and 18 snd only took local “talent” they certainly wouldn’t be top 5 at the only levels that matter. get a grip. if your kid is local and good enough they are on PENS. i can think of many many examples. they don’t not make the team because they are local. and i can think of a few examples of local kids who are good enough not only make the team but also do NOT go to NC. if you are good enough they want you. period. one local never went to N
    2 points
  16. Unfortunately, the only real AAA in western pa is PPE followed by esmark midget. As stated above, you can see how far the gap is between these two clubs. I have nothing against any kid or extra A status parent. Spend your money however you like - It’s just the truth. My biggest problem with PPE is how they are using youth hockey not just to fund the pro practice rink but also make a profit after the pro bills are paid from youth hockey! The penguins along with upmc are also using this business model as a tax shelter. PPE makes more money off import players.
    2 points
  17. Agreed and frankly with Esmark starting the money grab with 08-12 birth year teams this year they aren't far behind all these other faux teams. It's a shame Pens aren't willing to actually try to grow the sport locally rather than poach the best rich kids
    2 points
  18. Oh no, it's a two-fold problem. But to be honest those two entities fit together so well it's like they were meant for each other. They've both done their share of soiling each others as well as their own "reputations". One has put $$ over the sport and the other $$ over education.
    2 points
  19. Yeah, that was my point. And the excel thing? No way my kid is doing anything at North Catholic. And to commit to that program for your child's alternative schooling- and cost- when PPE hasn't produced ONE nhl player? No thanks.
    2 points
  20. The age group who would benefit the most from a later tryout is the squirts. If anything, they really change the most from tryout to starting the next season.
    2 points
  21. Many organizations do give coaches input in the team make up - I've been there a few times. I personally don't give a flying fuck how long a team has been together.... ANYONE can be replaced at any time..... AND Just maybe some of the "entitled core kids" and their parents need to experience that to stay hungry and keep working to fulfil their potential. I've seen many times where the kids that are deemed to be the core of the team may have the individual talent and potential, but all too often are arrogant, lack discipline, have a poor work ethic in practice that affects the whole teams devel
    2 points
  22. It is well known that the Scholastic tournaments there are frequently sandbagged. Not all of the Alphas tournaments are bad, but this is standard stuff for the school ones. 'Middle school' was always the worse, with ninth and tenth graders playing against some squads with sixth graders, and refs not calling checking. You want your sixth grader, who hasn't learned how to check yet, being checked by tenth graders? Good times.
    2 points
  23. 100 percent agree with everything here. the 5 kids i know (1 esmark and 4 PPE) stayed back even though could have been on the rosters of ushl or nahl teams - they were not going to play much so stayed at 18 for another year. the kid at mt. st. C is a different story in that he’s an nhl prospect but the theory is the same - stay at a top notch 18 team and then do better the next year at a quality junior team. a good 18 program definitely better than any pay to play tier III junior team and agree - in this area - Pens, Esmark in that order and no other 18 team matters. period.
    2 points
  24. PPE has far and away the best skating/stick handling/ puck skills of anyone out there. Get your kid in a high level program if they are so inclined and keep them there. There is a difference between hockey players and kids that like to play hockey. Determining which kid you have is half the battle.
    2 points
  25. The player your are speaking about went or the GOJHL to cut his teeth, that is were Johnstown picked him up from. It had nothing to do with the predators. We know the other player that went with him to Canada.
    1 point
  26. This model is used in Minnesota for high school and the Chicago amateur league kind of works this way. If you don't like your club, you get 1 free hop to another club then that's it. There is no hopping from team to team each year like some west PA families do.
    1 point
  27. The Pens grow the sport locally through the Little Pens Learn to Play program, then through their Lil’ 66’ers teams. PPE teams used to consist mostly of local talent, then they began recruiting out of state for the older kids teams, now it’s a matter of time until they start importing 8-9 year olds and pump the parents up with AAA talk so they can uproot their families from Chicago, FL or other areas and move here to fulfill little Johnny’s NHL dreams.
    1 point
  28. So how do the Pens grow the sport locally? Seems like they get bashed because they are the best and everyone else is a Faux AAA player. Not sure what Danner has against kids wanting to play AAA. He seems to be the authority on who is AAA and who isn't.
    1 point
  29. I suspect covid had something to to do with the mid am district getting all 3 at large bids. traditionally our district is considered “middle of the pack”. It looks like a few districts may not be represented. For better or worse, politics & imports (it pains me to say it) - we can all agree PPE is the best tier 1 program in western pa. 90% of the time PPE wins the district at 14,15,16 & 18. Locally, Esmark is the only other real “AAA” option. You folks can see how far that gap truly is now with esmark sneaking into nationals due to covid. 9-2 loss to the NJ Avs (who were rol
    1 point
  30. Good points. Main drawback I see with spring tryouts is a kid who busts his ass over the summer and makes big devolopment strides could be playing down a level or two from what he should be once the fall comes. I'm sure part of having it in spring especially at the higher ages is also so they get obligated early. No chance to be on the fence and decide over the summer that they really don't miss playing and not sign up again. But with fall tryouts, at least you have a good idea who was serious enough to put work in over the summer. Both have pros and cons
    1 point
  31. Yeah. Even if we take child abuse out of the equation, religion is hogwash to me. I went to catholic school though 8th grade, and I dont' believe any of it. So without going on a tangent, I'll just say that there is no reason that I would send my kid to a school where something none of us believe in is central to the environment. And that's without even getting into the discussion of a kid missing out on the experience of a regular, diverse, co-ed high school experience. There's other teams you can play for.
    1 point
  32. I would actually prefer if tryouts were earlier. That way my kids can put hockey on the back burner mentally. I think the trend of tryouts without parents in the stands makes it more stressful for kids. My kids play other sports, we don't do spring hockey but we do take lessons throughout the off season. I am fine if my kid improves over the summer to the point that he could have made a better team. Lot of value in being able to have some success on the ice for team.
    1 point
  33. Cardinal Wuerl. Catholic Diocese. Bishop Zubik. You get the idea.
    1 point
  34. The EXCEL program works directly with NC and PPE. To be in the EXCEL high school program, you have to attend NC. The kids leave school early and go to the rink. The elementary and middle school programs have no affiliation to NC. I don’t think I need to tell you why some people are hesitant to send their kids to NC. A quick google search will tell you what you need to know.
    1 point
  35. I would love to know, what in the hell does David Morehouse actually know about hockey?
    1 point
  36. Funny, the article talks about developing local talent but the guy that started 200x85 (and still is the owner ?) was brought in from Chicago to run PPE. He brought his favorite Chicago mission players with him. He’s the one that is responsible for PPE bringing in kids from everywhere and dumping local players along with David Morehouse. Unless this is a completely different 200x85.
    1 point
  37. Agree! If you want an instructor(s) that care about your kid and their development then Bruce and Ben Hanus are what you are looking for! My oldest started playing hockey at the age of 11 and after 5 years he was able to play at the AAA level and was invited to tryout at the 17 Boys Select Team for Mid-Ams. My other boy also plays at the AAA level after 4 years of playing hockey. They both are always complimented on their skating by all coaches/parents. I contribute their success to Bruce and Ben Hanus. Now as the above poster stated, your kid has to be in the effort and WANT to get bett
    1 point
  38. Agree with the OP. With respect to whether your kid should play for a 'faux AAA team' versus a comparable PAHL AA team: if you are choosing the former just because of the third 'A', you are making the decision using the wrong criteria - it may work out, and it may not. But, if you are choosing to play on that team because you like the coach, you feel it is a good fit for your kid, the other players and families seem good, then you are likely making an informed decision and the odds of it working out are greatly increased.
    1 point
  39. Isn't that the kicker? We know hockey is a late development sport but it's so hard to break in at the elite level if you aren't already in the AAA pool as a young kid, before midget. And contrary to the low level/faux AAA team sales pitches, they aren't really breaking kids into it, either. A few here and there. Good on this program.
    1 point
  40. https://www.woonsocketcall.com/sports/benoit-not-getting-ahead-of-himself/article_7f6e2b06-9ffe-11eb-804b-0b9050c1cc1c.html u18 is changing at the good programs this kid didn’t bloom until 2nd year of 18u
    1 point
  41. I know I am not faha but who is telling you he is borderline AAA? If it's a coach from one of these 'low level' AAA teams I would give it the side eye. Too many have to fill roster spots. (Talent is diluted as faha said.) Most of these teams have a few AAA level talent and everyone else is helping to fund those kids' dreams. If it's a current coach or someone just evaluating him with no stake in the game....better. When people are approaching you wanting to work with your kid or suggesting he may be ready for the next level and they don't have a dollar attached to it.....better. The bigge
    1 point
  42. Agreed it was tongue in cheek. I'm assuming 15 or 16 is the cream of the crop
    1 point
  43. 6 teams at U18 AAA now ? Did I hear this correctly ? folks PPE & ESMARK are the only AAA that matters in western pa, in that order. end of story. The proof is out there.
    1 point
  44. I don't know if this is just another version of Esmark but you forgot the "Ice Kings" 08 and 09 AAA teams 😂. https://pittsburghicearena.com/ice-kings/
    1 point
  45. I remember when everyone called that region "Mars" because that was the name of the exit you got off at to drive up RT19 to the turnpike. Basically farms there then.
    1 point
  46. This is absolutely true. It’s how my oldest ended up with the 66ers a few years back. A coach in a PPE jacket approached my wife after a jamboree in delmont and went on and on about how talented our kid was. He was 7. I’ll admit, we were naive and swooned. So we jumped ship the following year and quite honestly it sucked. The environment there was terrible for my son and my family. I’m sure it’s great for others but we we’re definitely the black sheep of the group.
    1 point
  47. PPE is a white collar clique. Predetermined rosters based on parental income and butt kissing, but then again that's pretty much everywhere nowadays. It's so funny to me to see what Cranberry has become. It was a whole different world growing up there in the late 80's. I avoid it like the plague now.
    1 point
  48. I could go on and on about this topic, but I don't want to write a book about this (yet). PPE has it's favorites and frankly you're either a favorite of them or they drop you like a lead balloon. It doesn't always have to do with talent either. A lot is who they can pull from other AAA teams. A while back an Ohio AAA team folded and they "invited" their star players to come to PPE tryouts and then promptly cut several local girls in lieu of out of towners. This was during a time period where they said their rules were only X number of players could be from out of town. When in fact 66%
    1 point
  49. At the rec mite level? That's the craziest thing I have ever read.
    1 point
  50. Really can’t say anything bad about Jim Black, Cody Black, and Bugsy Malone at Baierl when it comes to young hockey player development. All very accomplished in their own right and seem to genuinely love working with the kids on the ice.
    1 point
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