Flavio

28 minutes ago, Icebucket said:

I think you are confusing anti-montour with anti-cheating. Most (not all) of the people thinking Montour should be out don't appear to have anything against montour other than their disregard for the rules.

The way you all melt down anytime it seems like Montour may be making an argument against the hollow accusations out there… so telling. None of you know the facts. You don’t even know if it was cheating. You’re just some weirdo who gets off on controversy and found good company on this board. 
 

Most of what is posted here is hearsay. As far as I know, not a single person directly involved has posted here, or has posted any facts about their position.

The good news is, you’re here projecting your personality disorders on this board. Likely having been weeded out of the hockey community so you aren’t able to do anything but bitch on a message board. Thus ensuring the wellbeing of others. 
 

smd

Butz & Smith said let’s run it back… 

Injucntion incoming! 

The fact that some here are so hellbent on this not working out for Montour just shows how personal it is. Montour could cure cancer at this point, and a select group would be out for blood. Thanks for making this an outlet for your weird infatuation. 
 

Seeing how it has triggered some of the local goofball board regulars… I hope Montour finds their way back in to the postseason and I get to enjoy all the salty tears. No more queefs though. If a woman walks up to me and try to shoot some clam gas at me I’ll beat the bitch up. 
 

- Coach Flavs

4 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

You really can't comprehend simple sentences can you?

How was PIHL supposed to know they didn't file the proper paperwork at the beginning of the season when they listed the kid as a current resident and not a transfer.

You are either that dumb or just dense as hell.

Let me frame it for you this way… what is going to prevent this from happening again? What can PIHL mandate, under their umbrella, to avoid this issue moving forward? 
 

You’re the one who’s being obtuse. Answer my question. 

I go take out a 500k loan, the bank gives it to me and I spend all 500k of it. Later on they find a discrepancy in my paperwork or that my credit is shit… they can’t take back their initial decision because they f*cked up. That loan is good to go.

Once they realize the error, they can refuse me another loan. Just like PIHL can refuse to let the goalie participate. Can’t go back and take the past from Montour because PIHL failed to do their checks and balances. 
 

Bank has no way of proving my intent - I asked for a loan - they game me one. Montour asked for a kid to play, they let him. 
 

- Flavi Esquire 

Just now, carroll81 said:

My wager:

Judge says, why didn't you catch this sooner.  You let him play 10 games and they thought he was eligible.  Those games are good. He's now ineligible, so he can no longer play.  Team move on without him.

Hypothetical:

Let's say that this did not get brought up now and Montour went all the way through to states.  When the East reviews the rosters and finds the kid ineligible, they bring it up, kid is ruled ineligible.  Would the team still be allowed to play?  I have a feeling they would.  Maybe PA Hockey can shed some light on what would happen here or what has happened in the past in this situation.

 

 

Exactly.

Pucks11 is invested - he was at the meeting and if that’s all they have on Montour, then MT is about to clean house with these people. 
 

“THey DiDnT fiLe tHe CorReCt paPeR wOrK jUdge”… 

So why didn’t you tell them that in the first place. 
 

LOL
 

- Judge Flavio

5 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

You wouldn't have to stand outside as they are open for anyone unless deemed emergency or private ???

Lol… there you have it folks. Same type with a stop watch in the stands and a spreadsheet with every player and their personal info on it 

Sounds like former commish said yeah and someone after said no. Not how it works PIHL! Judge Mathis bout to straighten that ass out! 

1 minute ago, Pucks11 said:

He still changed school districts, PIHL covers Varsity, JV and Middle School. It doesn't matter if he never attended a high school before, he still moved schools.

You must be fun at parties man.

Maybe. 
 

But atleast I’m not curtain jerking outside of PIHL court. With my ear pressed to the door. 

1 minute ago, Pucks11 said:

I have explained ii to you MULTIPLE , it's not my fault you can't comprehend it.

 

Yes the address was clearly the billets which is why is raised the question how 2 kids with different last names were living at the same house and there was no transfer paperwork filed but just the basic resident paperwork.

You don't have to buy the truth my guy, I know the process and that is 100% the truth. They do a 2nd look at every kid before playoffs start as a just in case.

HOW DID HE TRANSFER IF HE NEVER WENT TO A HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE? 

No chance PIHL wasn’t aware of this kids situation and if they weren’t - their checks and balances are a joke. I practically have to give a DNA test to sign my kid up for pre-school soccer at the YMCA…. Give us a break. 
 

ZERO chance this kid slid by on the “wrong paperwork”. Like it was some 3 line form to fill out. Go to bed. 

3 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

Dude you want answers and then argue every one you are given.

Montour filed the wrong paperwork on purpose and the kid was approved, when PIHL did their 2nd look at the end of the season to make sure everything was in order they found that the kid had an address the same as another player and that's when the questions started swirling about who he was and why he never came up under Montour before.

 

I know simple reasoning is hard for you to understand apparently but that's how the process works and went down.

Explain how they filed the wrong paper work. 
 

The address he listed was clearly the billet address if they found that it was the same as his billet family, where is the lie? Sounds like at worst, Montour filled out papers and someone on PiHLS end didn’t do their due dilligence. 
 

No one is buying the “second look over” thing either. Drop that asap. Original poster even listed the the organizations that were “after them”. 

22 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

How many times do you have to be told that Montour never filed the proper paperwork. Yes the kid was approved to play as a resident of Montour who wasn't a billet or transfer student. They lied from the beginning.

 

PIHL goes over all the paperwork AGAIN at the end of the season just to make sure everything is in order and it wasn't.

Oh I bet lol 

They went over everything again, likely excuse. 
 

Seems more and more like you may be one of the strongest opponents of Montour. So your credibility is shrinking by the minute. 

15 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

How many times do you have to be told that Montour never filed the proper paperwork. Yes the kid was approved to play as a resident of Montour who wasn't a billet or transfer student. They lied from the beginning.

How the f**k do you lie on paperwork and it doesn’t get caught. Did the kid change his last name to the billets? Did they not find a conflict with the address he provided? Did they make up an address? Did they not get signatures from his parents who don’t live in Montour? No proof of residence? Birth Certificate? 
 

What kind of half ass verification process is going on with PIHL that they miss all that? You’re acting like somebody scribbled his name down on a piece of paper and wrote “Montour resident” next to it and turned it in. There are checks and balances that this kid clearly passed. 

And until you state your affiliation to this situation - don’t come on here speaking in absolutes. For all we know you’re some goober dad hanging around outside the meeting room - because we know a handful of you here would be “those guys”. 

- Big Flavi

Again, the judge is going to look at this and ask why the kid was able to play 10 games without anyone noticing / now it’s an issue. 
 

What procedures are in place to ensure these rules are followed? Why did they fail? The asinine part is that PIHL will probably come away with this by having a rep at each game to verify players. But maybe they should be required to do that if they indeed are telling players they can play, then recanting later on. 

The judge is going to look at this and ask why the kid was on the ice for 10 games and there was no problem. That’s just as much of an issue for PIHL as Montour having an issue with possibly not having anything in writing. 
 

If these rules are so important, why didn’t PIHL act to make sure they were being followed? How did the kid play 10 games or whatever. Remember, judge likely isn’t look at it through a hockey lense. Won’t necessarily be forgiving to the fact that the kid was allowed to step foot on the ice and play sanctioned games - and no one stopped him. IF these rules are so important. Why isn’t there measures in place to prevent something like this happening? 

How did a kid play a whole season and it wasn’t an issue? 

Choosing to delay anything at this point would look horrible. They aren’t stupid. They will proceed with matters until when/if they are legally required to address this issue. Right now, they are moving forward. It’s not news and it’s not high confidence lol

The posturing here is always off the charts. 
 

PIHL puts out a statement and doesn’t put the world on hold because papers were filed lol 

SHOW OF CONFIDENCE! 

Peter has some insightful things to say. Especially about the ppe and AAA. Speaking of which, they must be loving this  Montour epic. Quite the convenient distraction from the turmoil going on there currently. They’re probably funding Butz & Smith! 
 

- Coach Flavi

This is how this plays out every day on this board lol

Person A: I disagree with you 

Person B: wE kNOw YoUr’E a PaReNt Of ThE TeAM!!1!!1

33 minutes ago, PeterThePuck said:

Spill it what they have your a montour parent

Has it ever occurred to anyone here that people can discuss a topic without being directly involved. Just last week I was an Esmark parent who lived in Greensburg. 
 

Whatever the case, you sound scared. What’s your stake in this? 

Oh they have something. 

39 minutes ago, Jkersman01 said:

I don’t know man. Evidence is probably going to be stipulated to when it’s all said and done. The only evidence really seems to be the goalie’s ‘story’ and PIHL eligibility paperwork/roster submitted by montour. Probably going to be more of a case on rules interpretation, due process, etc. Notice the claim for equitable relief- that’s not monetary damages.  Meaning they’re probably just wanted to get reinstated for playoffs. Because of equitable claim and risk of immediate harm, they can likely get a preliminary hearing soon, like next week. I can ask my paralegal to pull this Monday and give it a look, if anyone is interested

How can you say what the evidence is? Do you know what they have. If they have documents from PIHL stating the goalie can play, look out.  We both know that group isn’t attaching their name to something this unorthodox if they don’t feel it has strong legs. They will get a prelim soon and theoretically it could be addressed in it’s entirety soon. 

39 minutes ago, PeterThePuck said:

DA comes after with strong evidence lol not Civil Lawyers

Unless the lawyer is a parent or relative Montour Hockey bill not getting paid

Stick to instigating, you don’t know what you’re talking about.