Moj

47 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

Moj, you are a great guy but the claim is top 5 not top 10. You guys havea great team, no doubt about it. 

lol     not even sure who I am responding to

8 minutes ago, Big Earn said:

I’m glad you brought up reading and comprehension, because you lack both.  The key to your latest thread is “as reported”.  You need to also consider “not reported”, but you refuse to read and comprehend what I’ve been saying all along.  Not sure how much clearer I can make it.  Good luck in your endeavor to ruin this message board.  

9 minutes ago, Big Earn said:

I’m glad you brought up reading and comprehension, because you lack both.  The key to your latest thread is “as reported”.  You need to also consider “not reported”, but you refuse to read and comprehend what I’ve been saying all along.  Not sure how much clearer I can make it.  Good luck in your endeavor to ruin this message board.  

I'm guessing it is because I teach gym and not English

Just now, Moj said:

can only compare the kids at the time of their age, but we have been improving every year and by the end of the season we will have played Caesars 10 times. They are the standard at this level and call us to play every time there is an opportunity. I am not saying this will translate into any other level but it is pretty impressive when we play multiple sports and practice 2 times per week when most of these other teams are practicing twice as much

not sure why you jumped into the conversation but based on the facts I presented I would be willing to bet most of these kids have more athleticism in their pinky toes then you have in your family tree

17 minutes ago, Saucey said:

I guess it's better to argue over how super your Pee Wee is v. the AAA squirt or mite. ?‍♂️

can only compare the kids at the time of their age, but we have been improving every year and by the end of the season we will have played Caesars 10 times. They are the standard at this level and call us to play every time there is an opportunity. I am not saying this will translate into any other level but it is pretty impressive when we play multiple sports and practice 2 times per week when most of these other teams are practicing twice as much

Just now, Moj said:

LA Jr Kings 08 AAA (CA)	19-2-2	99.99	3.30	96.69
2	Mid-Fairfield Jr Rangers 08 AAA (CT)	12-5-5	98.92	2.14	96.78
3	Little Caesars 08 AAA (MI)	10-3-1	98.86	2.57	96.29
4 ▲	Chicago Fury 08 AAA (IL)	20-2-2	98.24	3.46	94.78
5 ▼	Chicago Mission 08 AAA (IL)	9-4-1	98.17	1.43	96.74
6 ▲	Honeybaked 08 AAA (MI)	9-5-4	97.72	1.61	96.11
7 ▼	Top Gun (Elite) 08 AAA (NH)	24-8-5	97.60	1.38	96.22
8	Minuteman Flames (Elite) 08 AAA (MA)	22-7-5	97.56	1.76	95.80
9 ▼	Boston Jr Eagles (Elite) 08 AAA (MA)	22-14-7	97.53	1.30	96.23
10 ▲	Pittsburgh Vengeance 08 AAA (PA)	7-5-3	97.36	0.93	96.42

let me shed some light-------4 of the 5 losses came against mission who is ranked 5th ---no excuses but we played them without our 1st line center who is out for the season----we beat them earlier in the year 5-0(not listed)--the 4 games were not supposed to be listed but no big deal just stating facts

Fury ranked 4th---tied us 1-1 listed   our 2 wins vs. no loses not listed

honeybaked  ranked 6th    we went 2-1

Connecticut ranked 12th, 10 at the time we played beat them 5-0

Little Caesars ranked 3rd but in my estimation is the best team in the country we lost 3 tied 2 and won 1 all one goal games (last 2 we played we won and tied)-----also in 2 losses we had the lead late in the 3rd and blew it

Casers played LA ranked #1 two times and destroyed them in both

LA beat us 5-3 in the one game we played -----again we blew the lead in the 3rd

Played a combined team of mid fairfield, Gulls and Florida and went 1-2 all tight games

so the point is not all games were listed and I would say we are closer to 5 then outside the top 10

18 hours ago, Pucks11 said:

You guys have played 26 games vs teams in the top 10 but only 5 of the 15 games listed are vs top 10 teams and you are 0-4-1. So you have at least 21 games that are not listed vs teams in the top 10 plus others maybe. 

Don't talk about being in the top 5 if you are barely in the top 10. 

LA Jr Kings 08 AAA (CA)	19-2-2	99.99	3.30	96.69
2	Mid-Fairfield Jr Rangers 08 AAA (CT)	12-5-5	98.92	2.14	96.78
3	Little Caesars 08 AAA (MI)	10-3-1	98.86	2.57	96.29
4 ▲	Chicago Fury 08 AAA (IL)	20-2-2	98.24	3.46	94.78
5 ▼	Chicago Mission 08 AAA (IL)	9-4-1	98.17	1.43	96.74
6 ▲	Honeybaked 08 AAA (MI)	9-5-4	97.72	1.61	96.11
7 ▼	Top Gun (Elite) 08 AAA (NH)	24-8-5	97.60	1.38	96.22
8	Minuteman Flames (Elite) 08 AAA (MA)	22-7-5	97.56	1.76	95.80
9 ▼	Boston Jr Eagles (Elite) 08 AAA (MA)	22-14-7	97.53	1.30	96.23
10 ▲	Pittsburgh Vengeance 08 AAA (PA)	7-5-3	97.36	0.93	96.42

2 minutes ago, Moj said:

Played 26 games against top 10 teams

19 were in Pittsburgh.       When’s the last time a Pittsburgh team pulled that off

Beat Honeybaked 2 games

beat Cesars and tied them recently and. They were not added either

if all games were reported we would be in top 5

HORNETS ARE BACK

 

The 08’s in Pittsburgh are very deep

there are a lot of good players in the area

very hard lineup to crack

10 hours ago, Pucks11 said:

Didn't the 08 team just get pissed off because someone finally started reporting their losses to Myhockey and they dropped 8 spots. On top of that they a few more losses, ties and close games that are unreported ???. While they are a very good team they don't seem to be doing much better with their key acquisitions this season. They make fun of Pens and friends but the 08 team is pretty much their entire Mite team (Jets) from a few years back. I guess you could call them Jets and friends,  kind of has the same ring to it. 

Played 26 games against top 10 teams

19 were in Pittsburgh.       When’s the last time a Pittsburgh team pulled that off

Beat Honeybaked 2 games

beat Cesars and tied them recently and. They were not added either

if all games were reported we would be in top 5

HORNETS ARE BACK

Just now, Moj said:

BACK IN ACTION BABY

Just now, Moj said:

BACK IN ACTION BABY

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Just now, Moj said:

THE O8'S AND 09'S ARE COACHED BY 2 FORMER HORNETS---1 MADE NHL---FROM THE 8'S TO THE 11'S THERE ARE 4 NHLERS COACHING-----NOT TO BAD EH

BACK IN ACTION BABY

On 7/16/2020 at 5:58 PM, Danner27 said:

Negative, at that age parents & players start to really figure it out. Easy money to make from squirts to bantam. 

THE O8'S AND 09'S ARE COACHED BY 2 FORMER HORNETS---1 MADE NHL---FROM THE 8'S TO THE 11'S THERE ARE 4 NHLERS COACHING-----NOT TO BAD EH

On 7/16/2020 at 1:14 PM, fafa fohi said:

The elimination of PPE Black teams also contributed to the number of PPE kids playing for Vengeance or other teams.

THE VENGEANCE STARTED WITH THE 8'S AND NOW HAVE A TEAM FROM 2011-2006-----THEY ARE A VERY GOOD OPTION

On 7/9/2020 at 9:18 PM, PeterThePuck said:

AAA Hockey is a scam.

If PIAA would have some balls and bring Hockey In PIAA Let the High School share the costs then there wouldn’t be Club Hockey AAA holding all the Cards.

Look how MN and WI do it High School is NO #1 and you have to stay in your Zip Codes until death.

High Schools buy the rinks and pays for Hockey.

NCAA recruits those High Schools Hard.
Look how many make it to NHL.

Very few PPE kids get drafted to USHL and parents paid all that money.

If they do Excel, North Catholic and PPE you are looking at $32,000 to $34,000 a year with Travel.

When was last time PPE put someone into NHL? Not the PGH Hornets.

It is all because PPE brought these clowns in from the Midwest all they did was raise the costs according to Chicago Price. I give the U16 Coach Credit he good the others are terrible Coaches.

 

THE HORNETS ARE BACK UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME------VENGEANCE

4 minutes ago, Moj said:

Vengeance 2 days on ice=4 hours   Bag - gloves- warm ups-jerseys-socks included in price

 

 

On another note.     I can’t wrap my head around letting my 11 year old make a 10,000 dollar decision

1 minute ago, Moj said:

Vengeance 2 days on ice=4 hours   Bag - gloves- warm ups-jerseys-socks included in price

 

 

We will end up with around 45 games this year and about 17 are played in Cleveland as other teams agree to meet us there

On 2/5/2020 at 3:01 PM, Pucks11 said:

Most everything else you said was true but this part not so much. MOST of the teams at PPE in the first 4 or 5 years have parent coaches on them whether head or assistant. 

 

With the pricing that is about right but you do get a lot more out of the PPE with the higher price. YES they say sponsored by the local sports store but included in that big price tag is home/away/practice jersey and socks, jumpsuits, bags, 3 ice slots per week, 2 gym sessions per week, usually around 40-50 games and more. Most other organizations can NOT or DON'T give you that. 

 

Ultimately it comes down to where your kid wants to be and if he can play at that level. Let it be about your KID and not YOU. That is the problem with a lot of organizations,  parents can't keep their hands OFF. 

Vengeance 2 days on ice=4 hours   Bag - gloves- warm ups-jerseys-socks included in price

So your telling me there is s chance

lol

Wow

no half truths from me. It really doesn’t matter to me where anybody takes their kid. As far as the picture/poster that is the 08 schedule.

as far as the tryout I believe we had 6 kids tryout that were not on the previous team and not that I am an advanced scout but there really wasn’t anybody that I would consider was better than anyone on the previous team.

if you go back to the beginning of the original post I was obviously having a good conversation with an 08 elite parent and did not have anything bad to say until somebody else chimed in. I don’t know who it was but I’m pretty sure it was a former jets parent. I use my real name not a screen name so anybody who has an 08 Knows this is me.  

I’m not trying to sell anything, I will say it again that I think there is a lot of good players on both the teams.  I have been around half of those kids for a long time and know first hand that they are good athletes.

I think having both teams is very beneficial to the whole 08 class.

I guess when I said limited travel I should have clarified that we did not have that many travel dates scheduled at the beginning of the season. We decided as a group of parents to add a few during the season when our team received invites from top 5 teams in the country. As a group we chose to travel to play against these teams and nobody in the Vengeance organization told us we had to travel. Since you seem pretty good with technology take a picture of last years schedule, if my memory is correct didn't that other team go to Boston for 4 games against 2 different opponents. I wander how many families gave the thumbs up for that trip. The thing I like about the Vengeance is we have some input on the schedule and where and who we choose to play. If you are a high level team you have to travel to play competition. Example, not sure if it is to the minute but I believe the 11th ranked team and he 7th ranked team are about 25 minutes down the turnpike. As a parent on the Vengeance I know for a fact the large majority of the families would like to play the other team as often as possible and even speaking to several families on the other team they seem to feel the same. I wonder Why the AAA Detroit teams play each other and Chicago AAA teams play one another. Come to think of it for the life of me I just can't seem to wrap my head around this. Can you shed some insight on this in a 3-1 game with shots on goal pretty even everybody I talked to seem to agree it was a good game.

Ha ha ha 

so funny

haven’ t been on for awhile.

thought you were the guy who made the comment about riding in the back seat of the car being a bad experience. I was discussing a game that occurred between 2 very good 08 teams from Pittsburgh. At no point did I say any of these kids are on a fast track to the NHL. The discussion was between myself and another parent from elite. Talking about a game. The reason for the discussion and as you call an emotional response from the both of us is kind of funny.

you are probably unaware of why I as a parent was so interested in this game and how close it was played.

For myself if you go back and read my post I simply tried to make a point that the game could have went either way.

But this wasn’t about the outcome of the game I was concerned with as much as I was to see the progress of the players there vs. the progress of the players on our team.

See I am not trying to live through my kid. I am very secure with myself and I never played ice hockey. So when it came time to make a decision about were to send him to play squirt hockey and I quickly realized there wasn’t really any other options comparable to elite, I chose to take my kid the the vengeance which was put together by a couple very ambitious people who wanted to provide another option for families who understand what you are saying about how hockey is going to be different when hitting starts.

Why the game was important for me was not because of the final score but because I saw that both programs developed the kids into pretty good hockey players and I do not feel the need to start my son playing only one sport at age 10. The Vengeance allows my son to play hockey at a high level and also to develop as an athlete by playing other sports that overlap.

I have no idea when his hockey career will end or how high of a level he will reach but I do know he will be able to play more than just hockey.

I am just learning about ice hockey but I can tell you this, most people that make it to the highest level in any sport are pretty good at the other ones as well.

so when you say we think our kids are unique I totally understand that every birth year has good players I agree. However what is unique about the 08 vengeance hockey team is that these kids have played some pretty good hockey teams in the US and Canada played pretty well for practicing 2 times per week and playing other sports.

Checkout Jr.vengeance at harmarville.  The 09 group is coached by former NHL player John Zeiler and they practice with the 08 group who is ranked12th in the U.S.  it’s also cheapest squirt program around and the philosophy is limited travel so the kids can play multiple sports and become good athletes.

Did you see the goal against the first goalie? What’s your thoughts on if it went in or not? 

Hard for me to believe the vengeance we’re getting outplayed and drawing all the penalties at the same time.

Not sure what game you were watching if you didn’t think it was good.  PE outplayed them in the first by scoring 2 goals to 0. Shots at the end of the period were 7-2. Once the Vengeance team settled in they outplayed PE for the next 2 periods. The turning point in the game came in the 2nd pd with about 5 minutes left in the period the vengeance scored and the ref waved it off. How he missed it is beyond me, but if the game is 2-1 from that point on it would have been interesting to see how it would have played out. PE blocked a shot from the point on a pk and scored on a breakaway and took a 3-0 lead into the 3rd. I say interesting because they never really had to play with any pressure which if they count the goal that clearly went in the complextion of the game may be different. Shots finished Vengeance 15 pe 12, Pe had 5 shots on goal in the final 2 periods and it wasn’t because they went into a defensive shell. As far as the penalties they were legit calls the vengeance team in my opinion is faster top to bottom and pe players were hauling them down. No excuses PE won they deserved to win but it definitely was a “game”

I mean if you took the best 08’s on the same team it the best team in USA at that level. XXXXX the goalie may be the best in North America.  That being said 10 year old hockey is different Hockey when hitting is involved, I get that.

Just now, Moj said:

We would be the best team in the country

That being said

my son plays on the 08 vengeance and little Bridger football, travel basketball, played for north United soccer, travel baseball and is going to play lacrosse this spring. That is why we practice on Friday’s and Sunday’s.