Big Earn

9 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

You seem to be the one getting your panties up in a bunch,  I am by no means worked up or upset. You tell me that you are fact checking my comments but you have done nothing of the sort. No one here denied the schedule of the Vendor that they are easily the top team in the area, I personally said it 3 times. You are very defensive ???. 

This entire conversation began with you accusing a local team of hiding games.  In no way was there a question posed, it was a statement insinuating that a team was upset that games that were counted cost them X-spots on a hockey ranking site.  You then went on to suggest that other “losses, ties, and close games are ? ?” as well.  So this is where the fact check comes about, none of this is correct.  Your buddy Moj further clarified the truth as well, so, you have now waffled into stating “3” times that this is a pretty good team.  I’m glad you’ve come around, class is over.  Enjoy your weekend.  

29 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

If you notice Moj made 3 comments to bring this subject up after months of being an inactive thread but thanks for trying buddy. 

 

Like I said this is supposed to be a DISCUSSION BOARD. That means I can have opinions on organizations without being a part of that organization. You know it's weird when you read up on organization websites and talk to different people at different organizations how much you can find out instead of drinking the Kool-aid and only having 1 opinion that is told the way you should feel. 

I don’t know what that means, but ok.  

Im not sure what you are getting upset about?  You continue to bring up this is a “discussion” board, so keep it that way.  Some people prefer the Kool-Aid pal, but everyone can do what they think is best for their kid.  Your opinions are your own, but when you try to roll false comments, expect a fact check.  V team has played easily a top 10 schedule, do you really think teams in Chicago or Detroit have only played 10 games all year??  Sure you don’t.....compare the V ‘08 team schedule with any other comparable in this area and it’s not even close.  I’m sure Moj can fill you in since your personal pals.  ??

9 hours ago, Pucks11 said:

Didn't the 08 team just get pissed off because someone finally started reporting their losses to Myhockey and they dropped 8 spots. On top of that they a few more losses, ties and close games that are unreported ???. While they are a very good team they don't seem to be doing much better with their key acquisitions this season. They make fun of Pens and friends but the 08 team is pretty much their entire Mite team (Jets) from a few years back. I guess you could call them Jets and friends,  kind of has the same ring to it. 

Your facts aren’t accurate and your intent to stir the pot has obviously drawn some attention to a thread that hasn’t been active since July.

Your posts back in Dec. enamoring Esmark over PPE suggests otherwise, but ok.....??

8 hours ago, Pucks11 said:

Didn't the 08 team just get pissed off because someone finally started reporting their losses to Myhockey and they dropped 8 spots. On top of that they a few more losses, ties and close games that are unreported ???. While they are a very good team they don't seem to be doing much better with their key acquisitions this season. They make fun of Pens and friends but the 08 team is pretty much their entire Mite team (Jets) from a few years back. I guess you could call them Jets and friends,  kind of has the same ring to it. 

Pucks 11, you sound like a disgruntled parent with this post.....as it seems Jr. wasn’t able to crack the lineup for either of these teams (Jets or V)?  Anyone who follows the vengeance this closely, when their kid plays for Esmark, obviously has a bit of a jealousy issue.  ???

7 minutes ago, HockeyDad23 said:

My first time on this forum was my first post. Secondly, my kids dont play AAA hockey. Frankly I dont think what I have learned here that play does speak for itself. Sounds like a lot of politics and parents living vicariously through their kids hoping they make it to the NHL at age 9. I can totally tell as a “newb” you are one that makes your kids do drills in your basement and yell and scream at the games. Chill fella. Life is too short.

Thanks for the attempt at characterizating my parenting.  If I upset you, then apparently I’ve said something that is true.  All I’m saying is you aren’t new to hockey around this area.  Go to a tryout and see for yourself, since you know how short life is, give your kid a shot.  

Hockey dad, if your kid plays at the AAA level, you’ll have to take the good with the bad.  Generally, if your kid is good enough, his/her play speaks for itself.  If you’ve been around hockey, as I assume you have, this message board can’t be your first go round with this topic.  Coming off as a newb, as the kids say, isn’t working. 

12 minutes ago, Rico said:

You sound scared... 

That rebuttal doesn’t exactly prove that he’s wrong in what he’s said here, Rico.   Stick to posting straight jacket pics and talking about the Jackson 5.  

15 hours ago, Saucey said:

? I don't have all the answers, youth hockey, youth sports in general are a mess. Glad my kids age out soon.

Get a life? I'm not the one taking the time to dissect a youth sports game on a public forum to try and convince someone from the other team that my kid's team is better than their kid's team. 

Look, you want to do it, you found a soulmate. PM him. No one is stopping you from having the discussion. You want to do it on a public forum, well...someone might make fun of you.

You got it pal, I hope you get the most likes for today and win the public forum trophy.  Good luck. 

4 hours ago, Saucey said:

Such a rude response when I was answering a question posed by someone else. If you don't like my response, you can also choose to disregard. Also, I didn't talk about people feeling like their kid is going to the show, so you must have meant to direct that comment to someone else. 

I commented and care because I see what is happening in the stands with over involved parents and I want to see the sport grow. Watch people scream at refs and taunt kids. Pick fights with other parents. It's ridiculous. 

Listen, I am not saying anything different than what USA Hockey says. Let your kid play the game. Let your coach do the coaching. 

Maybe what you really meant Big Earn is that I shouldn't waste my time because people won't quit what they are doing. Let them learn the hard way. I guess I hope that someone might be interested in skipping the hard way and not dismiss what I have seen out of hand. Pause and look at what they are doing, how it might look to others or the kids. I am not trying to be holier than thou as others have intimated. I want families to stay in the sport. I have seen if a parent is too involved, that back fires with the kid.

Perhaps because the discourse on this board is frequently condescending and offensive, that is another reason this type of advice is ignored. I probably have been guilty of being condescending. My hard eyeroll comes through I am sure. I will work on that.

Again, you suggest parents being hard/critical of their kids, refs, and staff.  The stands I sit in, I don’t see this.  Like I said, your experiences are different from everyone on this board, at least most.  My response comes because I sit here reading advice from you and a few others who are suggesting you have all the answers, and the rest of us know nothing.  Call it arrogant, condescending, or whatever you’d like.  Again, it appears we can go at this for years, I’m just suggesting that you and the other geniuses on this board don’t have all the answers, and your experiences are not going to be the same as others, much like life, which it appears some may need to look to obtain one.  ✌️

On 12/31/2018 at 8:25 PM, Saucey said:

I get annoyed with the 'Squirt' talk because parents who are this into their kids' games before the child is done with Santa are on the road to killing the sport for their kids. I don't see parents of older kids doing this, I don't remember seeing this level of obsession when my kids were younger and the advice I see posted here from those who have been around is, sit back, enjoy the ride, let the kids enjoy it. The only people who should be dissecting any youth game the way this post was doing it is a coach, and God bless if they have the time.

I have witnessed an inordinate amount of crazy coming from the stands of Squirt games this season, no matter who is playing. Really horrible behavior. Happens at every level, but seems most egregious with the newbies. I am glad you are into it, hockey is so much fun, but be careful you don't suck the fun right out for your kid or you will see your kid exit quick. This behavior isn't healthy for the kids or the sport.

Talk about the sport all you want, but don't obsess. Don't dissect one game like it was an NHL game because you want your kids' team to be the best in the area. Why does that matter? At nine and ten, you have a lot of hockey ahead of you, assuming your kid continues to want to play.

I have seen first hand what happens to the kids of the parents who treat their games like they are going on a talk radio show. Passion dies, and the child moves on. 

I don’t see anyone on this thread stating their kid is making any show, do you?  If you don’t like the squirt talk and you’ve lived it, maybe it’s time to move on and let these folks gain their own experiences.  No one is asking you to read or respond to any of this.  Happy posting.....

1 hour ago, Hoomie said:

3/4 of your elite team will be trying out for the vengeance after they get cut by time they are Bantams. That isn't new either. 

Hoochie, that makes zero sense, and your comment suggests that the vengence are a second choice team.  Not sure if you realize that or not.....

2 hours ago, Saucey said:

Maybe you guys should PM each other for your enlightening play by play argument over which Squirt team was better for this now, what, month and a half old game? I've been on this board for a while, and I've not seen anything like this.

Let me solve it for you...you are not going to convince the other that your team is better. What did you do, watch game tape or Livebarn to write these posts? Let it go. Sounds like there is talent on both teams and that it was a fun game, with both teams getting something out of the experience.

It is really weird to obsess so much over a kid's game. Drink some beers and move on guys. These poor kids. Must be fun riding in the back seat of your cars.

Isn’t this post board created to discuss hockey?  People seem pretty annoyed by the current discussion, but can’t hold back from responding to the “squirt” talk.  Parents with older kids seem to forget their kids were once squirts, and this conversation took place then as well.  This isn’t new......  

11 minutes ago, Questions21 said:

The Championship game was 3x 15min periods but still close to half the game. Unless you have the offensive punch to push back with all of those PK's then you are forced to play defense. Like moj said earlier too PPE blocked a shot on the PK and took advantage of it and scored short handed. That is not much of a system but trying to survive, which they did. 

These two teams play 10 times, PPE wins 7 or 8 of them.  Vengence have a nice team, but lack a scoring threat, plain and simple. 

28 minutes ago, Moj said:

Did you see the goal against the first goalie? What’s your thoughts on if it went in or not? 

 

Hard for me to believe the vengeance we’re getting outplayed and drawing all the penalties at the same time.

 

 

PPE played half the game short handed, which could suggest the Vengence had an advantage in terms of skating.  Issue is Vengence lacked a scoring punch with 6+ power play chances.  Even if the goal that was called off counted, its a 3-2 game.  What has to be frustrating for the Vengence is the penalties + shots were in the their favor.  Bottom line is game leaned in Vengence favor and it still wasn’t enough.  Oh and, the “goalie” that played half the game the Vengence claimed can’t win a game, ended up looking pretty stellar.