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  1. As I run into a lot of you at the rinks - thanks for all of the kind words about our project. Here is a quick update. Check out the reviews and watch it with your player (What's $3.99 when we spend $60 for an hour for lessons) https://filmthreat.com/reviews/1st-year-checking/ http://novastreamnetwork.com/documentary/review-1st-year-checking/ (Australia?) https://hockey-blog-in-canada.blogspot.com/2021/08/tmc-1st-year-checking.html https://midwestfilmjournal.com/2021/08/16/1st-year-checking/ (Questions my ethics! How dare they! but overall good review) Check it out at www.1styearchecking.com Rent at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBpnoYzWMjo. Thanks again! Mess
  2. Jack - good question. We did not put it on Youtube. We paid a distribution company (who is terrible and made good promises) that a friend (who did the Grant Fuhr film, Bob Probert film, Ice Guardians, Evel Knevel and others) recommended. Before that, our friend told us that he would gladly distribute it but take 80% of the profit. These films are so small that they aren't worth it to a lot of places. Covid really had an impact on the company we went with - where the distribution happens in India. They promised Prime, Google Play, pitches to Netflix, Hulu etc. From what we are piecing together, they are close to bankrupt. We got various offers through the film festival success - one weird one that would have been the most profitable was to cut the film up into 88 - 1 minute segments. We are scrambling a little right now because the company just put the film out there without any notification to us at all. So PR is going to be tough as they usually want a premiere or an opening night to tie it to. And in hindsight, it would have been smart to get it out last year when everyone was home but we were told every few weeks that it was next up. That's this business though....
  3. AAA and Forbin -thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch it. You could be right about instilling the fear in my own kid ... but If my daughter hadn't gone through her 1st year of checking (with him as a witness) with two players quitting the game (who were very good players and my son looked up to) I would agree even more. I am grateful to him for being brave enough to share his real emotions and fears about it. I think it will help younger players who may or may not have the same feelings. I tried not to make definitive statements about checking itself rather convey exactly what I felt at the time. The Pens clinic was a terrific start for checking, the thought at the time was however, they are all going to need a lot more practice/reps...it was also helped me transition to two more checking clinics (which may have felt more repetitive) "They were going to need a lot more than this..." led to more checking clinics. If I was going to make a definitive statement on checking itself .... 1. For a player to enter their first year of checking they have to have been skating for at least _____________ years (3 or 4?) . So that would move checking down in a lot of cases. I have seen a lot of players try to start playing at 12 and 13 and then go into checking the next year. That is when it is the most dangerous in my opinion. However there are more non checking options now for them than even two years ago (Alpha did not have an option but does now). 2. While in Detroit, we had a player this year get hit in the head and concussed. No penalty. The referees were upset that they didn't see anything and after a good conversation I learned that they have been begging USA Hockey to make It mandatory for all checking levels to have three officials. But in their opinion it will cost more money so they will not do it. I can tell you as an official that you simply miss calls every game, and that a head hit is one that we can't miss. 3. One part I didn't get to cover was there are a lot of places in Minnesota who are not in USA Hockey anymore and start checking right from the start. I would love to see how that experiment is working. But as you saw, most of Canada completely eliminated it at non-AAA levels. Which would have saved the players on my daughter's team (I think). Do I see a part 2!
  4. I really appreciate the feedback. That means a lot to me. I hope it is helpful to those going into checking and helps them. As a side, I tried to present both sides, but I'm a pretty firm believer now that there should be a requirement for number of years that the payer has SKATED before she/he participates in check hockey. I know of a few players who wanted to start playing as a second year squirt and as a first year bantam and that was when it seemed to be most dangerous. I also wish I went more into the referees and how difficult it is to see head hits in a two man system (while you looking for icing, offsides, getting yelled at etc). See you at the rink!
  5. For those who prefer Google Play on their Roku etc https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/1St_Year_Checking?id=C7nrjns_IdE.P
  6. https://vimeo.com/ondemand/1styearchecking The long distribution journey is over. The company put it out on YOUTUBE TV and VIMEO last week (somehow Covid held it up for nine months). This is the Vimeo link above. SEARCH 1st Year Checking on YouTube and it will come up as well (and it is a lot cheaper to rent!). We were going to have a premiere and all that jazz but now we'd rather just let kids and parents watch it. Special thanks to all of those players, coaches and parents who were a part of it. Enjoy! or don't! Mess
  7. Thanks Forbin - It is finished, but the first route is for us to try to get into film festivals. Most of which are not looking for something like this but you never know. Soon after we find out about the festivals, we may have a screening here in Pittsburgh and then get it on a streaming service. Then I will bring it to you driveway and play it.
  8. I have had a lot of inquiries about our film around the rinks - so here is a link to keep an eye on it's progress. Thanks to everyone who let us put a camera on them this year (home and away). https://1styearchecking.com/
  9. I've moved this to another thread as the other post got lost. The Pittsburgh Vengeance are pleased to announce the formation of the 2006 Tier 1 Vengeance Hockey Team. Our balanced schedule of 40-50 independent games including 4-5 showcases and multiple weekly practices allows players to focus on improving on ice skills while developing a greater understanding of the game under superior, consistent coaching. Our strength and conditioning program led by Sean Berkstresser teaches proper technique and training methods to ensure young players are physically prepared for advancement to the next level of hockey. Mike Messner is the Head Coach. He has been playing and coaching for for over 35 years. He played for Penn State’s ACHA program and finished with a National Club championship and as the teams all-time leading scorer for defenseman. He played professionally for the Lakeland Ice Warriors of the Sunshine Hockey League. He is the first ever recipient of Penn State Hockey's Distinguished Alumni Award in 2016. He currently is a social media, recruiting and television director for major Division I Hockey, Football and Basketball teams. He also Executive Produced a hockey documentary, The Last Gladiators … Players who make the team will be filmed for a documentary project titled, Cornered, First Year Checking. “Mike is a tremendous addition to the Vengeance family, he has an extremely positive and enthusiastic approach that he has learned while working and observing Division One coaches at the highest levels.” Dave Dorsey, the Vengeance General Manager stated, “Winning the PAHL regular season and playoff championships last year should serve as a great springboard into this coming year, which will start soon after tryouts.” Tryouts for the 2006 Vengeance start on Monday April 15 at 6:30pm. https://www.scirhockey.org/tryout-information/tryout-dates/ it is listed under 2006 Birth Year. HERE is the tentative trailer for the project ... -40-50 non-PAHL games -Including 3-5 Showcase Tournaments -2 Weekly Practices -Weekend practices on the rare off weekends -Practices start in the early summer (we want the serious player - but we do understand other sports and vacations) -Summer off-ice shooting sessions -1 Skill Session every other week. -The greatest value of ice time per dollar in the area. -Our focus at the beginning of the year is to attack the first year of checking with a Vengeance and to increase the team’s speed of play. -Cost will be approximately $3900
  10. Hi Bale - Independent is non PAHL - playing AAA teams and high AA (AAA mostly from the mid-30s and up) It exists ... Tryouts start Monday https://www.scirhockey.org/tryout-information/tryout-dates/ - listed under 2006 Birthyear (SCIR registers the Vengeance teams) The Pittsburgh Vengeance are pleased to announce the formation of the 2006 Tier 1 Vengeance Hockey Team. Our balanced schedule of 40-50 independent games including 4-5 showcases and multiple weekly practices allows players to focus on improving on ice skills while developing a greater understanding of the game under superior, consistent coaching. Our strength and conditioning program led by Sean Berkstresser teaches proper technique and training methods to ensure young players are physically prepared for advancement to the next level of hockey. Mike Messner is the Head Coach. He has been playing and coaching for for over 35 years. He played for Penn State’s ACHA program and finished with a National Club championship and as the teams all-time leading scorer for defenseman. He played professionally for the Lakeland Ice Warriors of the Sunshine Hockey League. He is the first ever recipient of Penn State Hockey's Distinguished Alumni Award in 2016. He currently is a social media, recruiting and television director for major Division I Hockey, Football and Basketball teams. He also Executive Produced a hockey documentary, The Last Gladiators … Players who make the team will be filmed for a documentary project titled, Cornered, First Year Checking. “Mike is a tremendous addition to the Vengeance family, he has an extremely positive and enthusiastic approach that he has learned while working and observing Division One coaches at the highest levels.” Dave Dorsey, the Vengeance General Manager stated, “Winning the PAHL regular season and playoff championships last year should serve as a great springboard into this coming year, which will start soon after tryouts.” Tryouts for the 2006 Vengeance start on Monday April 15 at 6:30pm. https://www.scirhockey.org/tryout-information/tryout-dates/ it is listed under 2006 Birth Year. HERE is the tentative trailer for the project ... -40-50 non-PAHL games -3-5 Showcase Tournaments -2 Weekly Practices -Weekend practices on the rare off weekends -Practices start in the early summer (we want the serious player - but we do understand other sports and vacations) -Summer off-ice shooting sessions -1 Skill Session every other week. -The greatest value of ice time per dollar in the area. -Our focus at the beginning of the year is to attack the first year of checking with a Vengeance and to increase the team’s speed of play. -Cost will be approximately $3900
  11. 2 Different teams 1 PAHL 1’AAA’ Independent
  12. I have been asked to post this ... There will be both a 2006 Vengeance and a 2006 Renegades Birth Year for the 2019-2020 season ... all are welcome to these skates. 2006 Vengeance OPEN SKATES Friday 3/29 5:30-6:50pm Saturday 3/30 2:30-3:50pm We will be doing some tryout drills and skating but the sessions will be for the most part 5 v 5 hockey.
  13. Bantam year would be preferable - however we may look into checking at all ages. thanks
  14. My name is Mike Messner and I coach an 06 team here in Pittsburgh. I will be following the team for a docu-series revolving around the team's First Year of Checking. My production company will be initially financing the project and quite honestly, you never know where these things end up - if anywhere (the final product may be a series, a one hour program or dozens of social media pieces). Some of the projects we have done end up on Netflix among others and some never see the light of day. I do feel like this is a really good subject, in addition to the action, there is a lot of debate on what age is appropriate - the amount of injuries associated with checking in hockey is somewhere around 85%. In addition to the team that I am coaching, we will be looking for a few other subjects to capture. To start we would like to have a couple of girls who are going to jump into the checking world next year. Also, if anyone has decent footage of body checks (good/bad/ugly) from the past few years we would love to use them. We also plan on interviewing parents and players who have given up on hockey and those who have really excelled. Title ideas (some include Line Change - First Year Checking, Game Change - First Year Checking, Rule 604, U13 - First Year Hockey Checking, Welcome to Real Hockey, Gut Check, Check Please, TEAM NAME - First Year Checking) email me mike.messner@theawesomefilms.com if you have ... 1) a girl player who may be interested in having their first checking experience filmed. 2) have existing footage of checks (good/bad/ugly) 3) anyone you think may add to the project (psychologists to talk to etc) 4) Sponsor ideas/contact Thanks
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