Icebucket

I have no problem giving him all the credit if he can do something at central. I hope he does well there as the more good teams at AAA is better for everyone.

7 minutes ago, thunderbay bombers said:

Appears central catholic has hired former seneca valley coach Anthony Raco. Seneca valley is promoting assistant Tyler Mesisca to head coach.

Thats a huge boost for Seneca Valley

11 hours ago, zam said:

I think I found 1 player that fits your criteria! 

From Western PA
Played,PPE 14U,15U,16U,
Invited to NTDP tryout 
Drafted USHL
Boston University Commit
Drafted 3rd round NHL

Who gets the credit?

7 hours ago, Goalsanddreams74 said:

Well I can now say he for sure has not paid the players the $500 they were supposed to get if they sold a sponsor. 

How closely did you read those contracts you guys signed? Knowing the owners history, it's safe to assume he planned on screwing people over from the start.

He probably snuck something in there where you guys owe him money every time you lace them up 😂

10 minutes ago, spilledbeans said:

I live 5 minutes feom the rink. None of those teams are in beaver county. I don't care what anyone says, this was an awesome atmosphere and yes I enjoyed the fights. Fighting is going away from the game. I'm 45 and I love old school hockey. The fights and the hits were why we came and im sure that's why most of the people came. Occasionally there was some really good hockey and some really nice plays. Like I said it brought something to the county that people could afford and have some beers. 

Why not just go out and watch local men's league games? It's as good a level of hockey or better and you just might see a scrap or two. Plus you can probably bring your own beer most places and not catch any hell for it 

6 minutes ago, nemesis8679 said:

Another problem is that unlike walking or running, a skating stride isn't natural to human anatomy. Like a pitcher throwing a ball overhand, as hard as they can, over and over. So to be doing that constantly and at that exertion isn't good. Especially when joints are still developing. 

And not to mention the mental part of time spent that could've been used for something else, and when all that time used for training suddenly goes away. 

There's very, very few NHL players or coaches that would tell you that that much time skating and training is good to do. 

But people will continue to not listen to doctors or professional athletes and continue to listen to amateur coaches.

There is a reason why so many hockey players develop hip issues later in life 

6 minutes ago, RJUSHL said:

Rehashed a million times on here. Arguments both ways. If you’re a mixed team you exclude yourself from the best tournaments. If you’re a mixed team you will start to lose your best players. Those are just facts. Maybe mixed teams are better for development? There are arguments there, but the demand for mixed teams is decreasing every year. It’s just the way it is. 

The level of play at a good u16AA tournament is certainly better than that of a u15AA tournament.

If USA jumped on board and held u15 tier 2 nationals it might change the landscape, but until then play on the best team you can and take two legitimate cracks at nationals

47 minutes ago, RJUSHL said:

SCIR (now Vengeance)
South Pitt
Lebo

These are the only 09 AA options. SCIR beat the soon-to-be Tier 1 09 Icemen at Mid-Ams. All three of these are good options after the dust settles this week. 09 AA teams are disappearing. 

*Scratch Lebo. They have an 09 team but it won't be AA.

**Another edit. Lebo 09 tryouts are over. Anyone know what happened there? 

If only the 09 parents were smart enough to realize the best option is to mix with AA 08s. U15 tier 2 is just silly 

7 hours ago, hockey55 said:

Why is 2009 birth year such a mess every single year 

Last I checked, players aren't out here changing their birth years. So 09s are a problem because it's the same parents year after year. 

44 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said:

Bummer for the players who just wanted to play the game they love!  Hopefully someone can salvage the idea for next year.  Probably couldn't get enough players to travel at their expense!

They can just play men's league. The better beer leagues around here are a higher level of hockey anyway

22 minutes ago, nemesis8679 said:

That much would probably have to be at a big school.

For the most part yes, but as far as I know the coach who makes the most is at one of the smallest schools in the area.

Obviously I don't know what everyone makes; I can only assume he's at the top as it's a massive number 

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1 hour ago, nemesis8679 said:

I’d say the range is around 8k-12k

I think 8-12 is probably pretty accurate for a new coach coming in. Some of the longer tenured coaches are up to 18k, at least from the ones I know.

If a top end players wants to pass on Excel I think they'd be fine, but when they are picking teams you better believe every bottom half player is in excel. Replacing players 15, 17, and 18 (who don't want to do excel) with 20, 22, and 24 (who do excel) would 100% happen.

4 hours ago, PittsburghHockeyFan said:

So does that mean they are going to ask for $0 dollars for a team fund? I find that hard to believe. And with the merger I am sure they are getting a nice big bulk uniform discount from HOH.

Have to think HOH will offer them cheap jerseys. Kind of a kick in the nuts to pay 4500 and be given a "free" set of roller hockey jersey 

30 minutes ago, Nepotisim_anyone said:

I missed the memo. Did the Vengeance get bought by Black Bear?

No, Alpha pulled the same power move as black bear does by pushing scir to rebrand and ousting the Aviators.

1 hour ago, nemesis8679 said:

I don't think the rink is that more out of the way for people than most others are depending where you live.

And AHF doesn't seem to bother Rebellion folks. Who knows. Maybe just less people to choose from.out that way. I don't think they even had any PAHL teams last season besides the one 16u team. 

While I don't think it's the main reason they are struggling, I think some of it comes down to people not liking the strong arm approach black bear took. Makes me wonder what the numbers will look like at vengeance this year 

2 hours ago, carroll81 said:

Not used during the regular season at any youth level?  Not even T1 midgets?

T1 midget clubs can choose what they want, but pretty much all use 3 man.

I think 3 man is the way to go, assuming the guy wearing the bands is competent. Problem with 4 man is if the two refs aren't on the same page you can get the game called differently on each side of the ice 

2 hours ago, carroll81 said:

What ref doesn't like the 4 man system?

They all complain about how boring it is. It ends up being a lot more standing around 

13 minutes ago, YardSale said:

I actually thought the reffing at WPA states was really good.  From the games I watched, they let the teams play.

It actually was very good. I know the refs don't like doing the 4 man system, but it did lead to significantly better officiating 

1 hour ago, RegDunlop7 said:

Armstrong and Cheektowaga combined for 89 penalty minutes yesterday. Disappointing for a game between two top 8 teams in the country.

Welcome to the world where refs can pass out 10s like Oprah. Luckily they don't use fair play points at nationals 

2 minutes ago, YardSale said:

Are teams placed based on season performance?  I always thought it was based on organization size.  

Typically our region is only ever 3A, but they only got in because they are hosting so not sure how that works

That Allegheny u18 team should have a legitimate shot at winning being placed at 2A.

24 minutes ago, Corsi said:

I feel like it this is an "apples to oranges" comparison, so let's try this.  I have been told that in other high school sports the teams that are co-op are placed in a division based off of the combined student bodies of the schools who compete on that team (this was in relation to boys lacrosse).  I am going to venture a guess that this would put the majority, if not all, D2 teams into the PIHL "AAA" division.  Can somebody who knows more about D2 give a guess on how they would match up with that division?  

In my opinion at least.  Typically the top D2 teams could play in AA and not be the worst team, however the weaker D2 teams might be on par with JV2.  This is why you see alot of the 10+ goal blowouts at D2.

You can also make the argument of, why isn't every PAHL championship a penguin cup? Is D2 really any different from PAHL amateur play where it's players from a variety of schools?

I think PIHL does a great job of giving these players a place to play despite them not actually being school teams. But people are never satisfied and always want more than the gift they were already given.