Icebucket

How closely did you read those contracts you guys signed? Knowing the owners history, it's safe to assume he planned on screwing people over from the start. He probably snuck something in there where you guys owe him money every time you lace them up 😂

Why not just go out and watch local men's league games? It's as good a level of hockey or better and you just might see a scrap or two. Plus you can probably bring your own beer most places and not catch any hell for it

There is a reason why so many hockey players develop hip issues later in life

The level of play at a good u16AA tournament is certainly better than that of a u15AA tournament. If USA jumped on board and held u15 tier 2 nationals it might change the landscape, but until then play on the best team you can and take two legitimate cracks at nationals

If only the 09 parents were smart enough to realize the best option is to mix with AA 08s. U15 tier 2 is just silly

Last I checked, players aren't out here changing their birth years. So 09s are a problem because it's the same parents year after year.

They can just play men's league. The better beer leagues around here are a higher level of hockey anyway

For the most part yes, but as far as I know the coach who makes the most is at one of the smallest schools in the area. Obviously I don't know what everyone makes; I can only assume he's at the top as it's a massive number

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I think 8-12 is probably pretty accurate for a new coach coming in. Some of the longer tenured coaches are up to 18k, at least from the ones I know.

If a top end players wants to pass on Excel I think they'd be fine, but when they are picking teams you better believe every bottom half player is in excel. Replacing players 15, 17, and 18 (who don't want to do excel) with 20, 22, and 24 (who do excel) would 100% happen.

Have to think HOH will offer them cheap jerseys. Kind of a kick in the nuts to pay 4500 and be given a "free" set of roller hockey jersey

No, Alpha pulled the same power move as black bear does by pushing scir to rebrand and ousting the Aviators.

While I don't think it's the main reason they are struggling, I think some of it comes down to people not liking the strong arm approach black bear took. Makes me wonder what the numbers will look like at vengeance this year

T1 midget clubs can choose what they want, but pretty much all use 3 man. I think 3 man is the way to go, assuming the guy wearing the bands is competent. Problem with 4 man is if the two refs aren't on the same page you can get the game called differently on each side of the ice

They all complain about how boring it is. It ends up being a lot more standing around

It actually was very good. I know the refs don't like doing the 4 man system, but it did lead to significantly better officiating

Welcome to the world where refs can pass out 10s like Oprah. Luckily they don't use fair play points at nationals

Typically our region is only ever 3A, but they only got in because they are hosting so not sure how that works

That Allegheny u18 team should have a legitimate shot at winning being placed at 2A.

In my opinion at least. Typically the top D2 teams could play in AA and not be the worst team, however the weaker D2 teams might be on par with JV2. This is why you see alot of the 10+ goal blowouts at D2.

You can also make the argument of, why isn't every PAHL championship a penguin cup? Is D2 really any different from PAHL amateur play where it's players from a variety of schools? I think PIHL does a great job of giving these players a place to play despite them not actually being school teams. But people are never satisfied and always want more than the gift they were already given.

I wasn't trying to imply that they don't do a good job, because I think tenband is great for the PIHL. It just seemed clear that he personally followed the South hills teams a little closer based on the picks

I haven't coached in 10+ years, but have won plenty of league championships. And I'm sure the world hasn't changed that much and the players would much rather win it all, vs being given the opportunity to put up 9 points in a 15 goal win. Maybe develop someone other than your top 5 when games are in hand and it will pay off in those big games where depth comes into play.

And to go a step further since you love he coach so much. He's a coach who can run it up against bad teams, but can't coach well enough to win tough games when it matters. "3 losses in 3 years", but zero championships