sadday4hockey

2 hours ago, hockeyisgreat said:

Not to mention NP which has one of the strongest 06 teams!

Pretty sure they are 05/06 this year. That's why some bolted for the vaunted Icemen I thought.

Right? The Stan's tend to enjoy war as much as we enjoy our hockey nonsense.

37 minutes ago, HSFBLJ said:

The world today exists outside of PAHL, if you play PAHL your entire career and never leave the local market your not going anywhere.  Like it or not travel and the cost of travel hockey is necessary if you plan on playing anything more than club hockey.

So the world today exists only for 2% of the players currently playing? Because that's probably the percentage that will ACTUALLY play more than club hockey.

Viewing those two links above, neither the Tier 1 group and especially the Tier 2 group strike fear into any top 25 programs. That Tier1 thing makes some sense for all those east coast teams but it would appear to add a lot of travel for Esmark? Did they leave the NAPHL and the trips to Minnesota and Texas?

Right, so now Yuri is the standard bearer for hockey value?

3 hours ago, Jack Handey said:

therefore are higher risk for insurance claims

I would LOVE to see an accounting of what they have actually paid out in claims over the years versus what they have collected/paid in premiums. Your personal insurance is always used first so only people with no insurance or limited coverage can even start the process of trying to utilize their insurance and while I've thankfully never had to look into it I do know several families who have and they it's a very difficult process to deal with.

48 minutes ago, Hattrick Swayze said:

The 15U Icemen are not listed tier 1 and we’re higher ranked than SHAHA

I see you used the word we're which implies you have a player on the team. Perhaps you should check with your organization because your team is NOT listed in the 16U Tier 2 NB rankings for Mid-Am District. https://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?d=MM&y=2021&v=127

This could signify a couple of things such as your organization never filed the paperwork or they filed the paperwork for Tier 1 and then tried to change it to Tier 2 (love that about face option) and were denied.

They take the rankings as of a certain date so they can plan accordingly. Teams close in ranking may have interchanged since then.

6 hours ago, Hattrick Swayze said:

At 16U the 06 PHA Icemen had a better MHR than SHAHA but  SHAHA got the bid to the tournament over them.

They are listed as Tier 1 which means they aren't eligible for Tier 2. But hey, they'll all be back to buy another vowel I'm sure.

Can anyone say Juwan Howard? Is it possible that the media is the main culprit in all of this craziness that is exploding everywhere due to the over-saturation we get of all the nonsense? The media LOVES this crap, some stations only exist because of it. Maybe we see so much of it that some people's subconscious minds normalize it and it gets worse? Or.... I could be deep in wishful thinking mode and about to get crushed on here. Either way, thoughts?

Take it easy, Karen.

He failed crayons in Elementary school.

Really showing strong support for the current Coaches down the stretch here, eehh?

18 hours ago, sadday4hockey said:

Our teams don't have comparable hockey IQ and our passing game looks nothing like the teams at that top level. 

Hockey across the country has suffered a huge setback in hockey IQ due the overwhelming focus on skills, skills and more skills. Players need to be taught the basic concepts even at the youngest ages. Otherwise it's bee-hive hockey until well......... the beer league.

On 12/9/2021 at 11:22 AM, Saucey said:

To me it's not that, but when was the last time that one of the Western Pa teams that went up to Nationals do well? Seems, with the exception of the girls, western Pa teams get their butts handed to them. Our market still doesn't compare on that level of competition. We are getting better. 

Our teams don't have comparable hockey IQ and our passing game looks nothing like the teams at that top level. 

Another of the ill-informed masses.

In the last 10 years of competition.

2019 - Burrell HS - Runner-up

2018 - SHAHA 14's - Champion

2016 - Armstrong 16's - Runner-up

2015 - SCIR 14's - Runner-up

2014 - Mid-State Mustang 18's - Champion

2014 - Bethel Park - Champion

2011 - Mid-State 16's - Champion

2011 - Allegheny 18's - Runner-up

On 12/9/2021 at 8:23 AM, hockeyisgreat said:

Overall I would say that is pretty impressive.  Who said Western Pa doesn't have good hockey?

The curmudgeons say that.

The nice thing is that these are all local kids. No imports like the Tier 1 teams.

Oh, and when I went to close the Yahoo article, they had locked article comments. I guess they need to protect the sick bastard's feelings.

When an entity whether it be a governing body like USA Hockey or a private company is a monopoly, there will always be problems like this. Protect the entity at any cost. Sort of like the CCP.

Yes, Kudos to him and those who he empowered to help grow the sport.

Conscious bias.

On 12/14/2021 at 9:02 AM, Corsi said:

This has lead to very little time to give different groups of kids the chance to get PP time.

If your 12U or younger team has a set group of players for the PP, you should ask the Coach, why?

Roll your lines, teach them all PP and SH situations and you will be surprised at who are some of the more capable players in these situations.

PK requires a lot of thinking and desire. PP requires an understanding of spacing and puck movement.

Nowadays, all of these traits can be difficult to find in players.

Did Cummings turn 30 yet?

21 hours ago, Pa Hockey said:

On another note .......Look at the ACHA Division 1 Scoring ........Three LOCAL Players in the Top 5 Scorers in the Country 

American Collegiate Hockey Association Skater Stats 2021-22 ACHA Men's Regular Season | American Collegiate Hockey Association (ACHA) (achahockey.org)

Why didn't you include the top 20 which adds one more?

It's real simple. Just follow the money. In the end, the Western PA taxpayers will have paid and the machine will have somehow bled another rock dry. Think...... URA purchased the building. Where doe the URA get their funding? Penguins Foundation, where do they get their funding?

High level pedigree is much more of a prerequisite for skills instructors as opposed to team Coaches.

That's one of the perils with non-parent coaches, they often times regard it as "their" team and make decisions based upon their own personal agenda. It's incumbent upon the organizations to keep them in line.