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OH, MY GOD.

Stay with me here.

They   don't     care    one     bit   about   the    CC  varsity    team. There    is     no    money   too    be     made    on     that    team.

12 hours ago, PeterThePuck said:

Pitt will be Division 1 one day and the Pete was build to flip to ice.

ACC will have a D 1 Hockey Conference to go with their TV Network like the Big 10.

WVU the same.

RMU is raising money to build a rink next to the new Basketball Arena when’s  that happens don’t know.

Other than the RMU portion, this post is one of the most ludicrous posts I've seen in a long time. Do you how much time and effort Joe Battista spent trying to get a D1 program at Penn State? He built that club team from the ground up into a Perennial National power and still only got the D1 program done by an unexpected meeting with Terry Pegula.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/psu/2012/10/14/The-vision-for-Penn-State-hockey-was-rooted-in-Penn-Hills/stories/201210140154

The chances of this happening at Pitt are slim, WVU slimmer and the whole ACC..........? Not a chance in hell.

Different entities, different players. Zero crossover. Period. How hard is it to understand that the Prep players are there to live the dream and line the pockets. The school players are there to get an education and be student athletes. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

26 minutes ago, Ynot02 said:

The Excel kids attend NC on an abbreviated schedule, not unlike kids at public school who go to Vo-tech, if you think about it

The difference being that a Vo-Tech program actually prepares young people with a means with which to support themselves whereas the drinking the kool-aid simply provides them with................... well, nothing more than how to suckle on the teat of their parents into their mid-20's or longer

I'll bet it makes for a great social atmosphere at the school. The kids who attend the school by choice and the kids who are mandated to attend. And I would be willing to wager that if an in depth audit were ever performed, you would find that ones whom are mandated to attend are paying less than those going by choice. Just my opinion but..........

This is getting nauseating.

The Prep team players will NOT have anything to do with the NC Varsity team. Two completely different entities comprised of completely different entities. Zero crossover.

19 hours ago, Racchi’s Rug said:

AAA Hornets 15 beat the Indy Fuel and Erie Jr. Otters handily at the MLHA Classic this weekend. They lost by a goal to Preds u15 AAA as well. The 14AAs beat the Houston Wild and I believe there are some of the same players rostered. I’d say check out the games in this classic. AAA and AA . Final day is tomorrow.

The Indy Fuel and the Erie Otters? That's a couple of Juggernauts there. And the Houston Wild? Now there's a hockey hotbed.

The MLHA thing is just another 3-5 year "one-off" deals, or in this instance a two-off deal. Just like the Icemen was all about one person's kid, so too is this all about one person's two kids.

It will fade away and other than the PPE, Esmark and the Preds(somehow) will still be standing.

The Vengeance thing is an interesting case study. They abolished the low-level Midget teams (and yet still get crucified) but if the idea is to grow the youth teams into 14U/16U/18U that's a slippery slope to try to sustain teams for that many years. I guess only time will tell.

That is what you call detailed, compelling and well written. I also made a point to copy and save it before someone forces it to be removed. Great job FTC.

It's all part of the master plan of the world's worst hockey parent. I was also told, this is second hand and only hearsay, that attending the Excel will be required next season for all age groups applicable. Now, everyone knows it's already a requirement but this person alleges that it will be in writing and not just telepathically communicated. Stay tuned as the tryout carousel is about to be fired up for 2020.

Wow, I didn't realize he was Scotty Bowman. That's the last Head Coach I've heard of that didn't go on the ice. Of course, that's because every player despised him.

42 minutes ago, garytheconquer said:

Ohhhh 16U I didn’t forget about you! The crown jewel for the predators! Recruited a few legit tier 1 players, cut fee’s, yet this team is now 6th in the district and in danger of not making the tournament. With all that talent what happened you may ask ? Well King Ralph is the coach. I’m not even sure this guy can skate! I’m sure everyone has heard why a few kids were recently kicked off the team. The inmates are running the asylum! 
 

He's the Coach? I just assumed it was his kid.

Well then, perhaps they should have been playing at a more competitive level than single A?

https://myhockeyrankings.com/team_info.php?y=2018&t=13510

The internet is such a wonderful resource. Enjoy the show.

Oh, right. That's the team where the coach threw all the sticks on the ice in the 1st period of the 1st game because he didn't agree with a couple of the referee's calls. All the parents could be heard on the Livebarn feed complaining and yelling at the refs and the players went over the edge as well.

It's funny how things stay the same even when the coach is different. This season the same team was recently involved in a melee at an away tournament where I believe 6 of their players were suspended. Then they attempted to circumvent the suspensions by scheduling "a game" against their 05 team on a weeknight so the players could participate the next weekend. 

As I stated earlier in this thread, it is based upon who wants to go and awarded on a first to apply basis. There is no merit system used by PAHL. Again, one of the PAHL's warts.

At the 14U level I think it's Allegheny, North Pitt and the Foxes (maybe). Apparently, the PAHL used the simple yet not so well received method of first to apply to go, first to get to go. This is supposed to showcase the top teams from East and West. Remember the warts that were mentioned in the mis-placement thread? Consider this a wart.

How do any of these fall under the topic Thanksgiving and Local?

2 hours ago, PAhockey said:

U15 Esmark lost all their games aswell

That team still exists?

Just looked up the U18 team and they lost a couple of close ones this weekend to Shadyside, 13-2 and 5-1. Good job Ralph, Gary and the rest of the gang lining their pockets. Good thing there is plenty of $$$ over there in Bethel, USC and especially Peters.

11 hours ago, lferg said:

As far as not using MHR, sorry, but you are not correct. The scores are submitted as of Aug 25, and include PAHL placement games. It is the most accurate publicly available source for determining team skill level. I can't speak for the entire site, but I am yet to find any discrepancy in reported games for Tier 2 12U PAHL group.

Yes, you can enter scores, however I believe that this year the initial rankings were released on Wednesday 9/18. It may have even been 9/25. Keep digging though, I'm sure you'll find something.

Prior history should be known by the association of every team. Most of them collect this data upon registration so even the club jumpers data is known to the new association. All associations are responsible for providing the PAHL with their idea of where each of their own teams should be placed. A solid association would involve the coach to some extent. Initial placements are released in mid August along with the two game placement match-ups. If a team believes they aren't placed correctly, there is plenty of time to play more than the two assigned games.

As far as MHR, it simply can't be used in any form or fashion because the initial rankings aren't released until mid-September and as others have mentioned, the manipulation is far more common than you would think.

The PAHL has its' share of warts, but team placement is definitely NOT one of them. As someone suggested previously Lferg, I'm sure the placement committee would welcome all of the time and data that you can provide.

You're right, they're lined up all the way to Middlesex Crossings.

1 hour ago, Ankletape said:

Surprised nobody has left yet 

December 31st is still roughly 40 days away.

1 hour ago, Jack Handey said:

He who owneth the ice maketh the rules.

100% agree, but if you (sort of) own the ice then what sense does it make to dismantle your main tenant and give up that guaranteed revenue?