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Rink shutdowns have started here in the East. Skatium (Haverford Hawks T2) and Iceworks (Little Flyers and Phantoms) have shut themselves down until January 2021.
Scrambling to reschedules games has begun. Not sure it can last very long.
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4 hours ago, Rancho1 said:
I guess Co-Ops don't count as real teams? I don't see any in there. I think Canavin won a few state championships.
Is Canavin with an "a" as you have it, different from Canevin with an "e" as is in both lists posted?
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6 hours ago, hockeyisgreat said:
Please keep us informed as to how many teams actually show up. We have been scheduled to play NY teams the last 3 weekends and each time they cancel by mid week. Harder and harder to find games!
The "final" schedule just went up. I don't see MD anymore, but I do see NC now.
You can follow along:
https://www.kreezee.com/hockey/tournament/philadelphia-superseries/19791/schedule
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11 hours ago, hockeyisgreat said:
Seems that teams from out of state are not traveling to PA anymore! Anybody else have teams from NY and Ohio canceling games? How long before we get shut down again? Any predictions out there?
Bunch of NY teams coming to Philly this weekend for the SuperSeries Tournament. Looks like the NJ teams had to drop out (except the one that says they are from Philly). I also see at least one MD team on the schedule.
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22 minutes ago, nemesis8679 said:
This "2 weeks" stuff is stupid. What does anybody expect to be different in two weeks as opposed to now? I'm not for shutting it down at all, either. If people stick to games, wearing masks, and distancing... that should be sufficient. I'd guarantee this is a locker room/hallways/car pooling/hanging out problem, not a game playing problem.
They shut it down for 2 weeks to stop any other potential spread. 14 days is the current thought on how long someone with it could shed disease.
I agree that it is mostly a locker room issue, as occurred in this one:
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/89139
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From the East:
Intercounty (ICSHL) Varsity opening day is January 1. Planning to get a full season in, though maybe a few less games (12 instead of 16).
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From the East:
DVHL starts this coming weekend using their Covid-19 protocol I sent earlier.
Atlantic League started 2 weeks ago with full rosters. All games were using 2 official system, midget moving to 4 officials next weekend.
Rinks were limited to no spectators up until this past weekend. Most rinks allowing spectators now, with various checks or policies upon arrival. Rinks are still pretty empty though. No gathering allowed. Can't leave bags laying around. You're in and you're out.
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8 hours ago, Danner27 said:
Here folks is where the science goes bad, this is how people use math to lie.
It doesn’t matter if you are next to a person with covid for 30 seconds or 3 hours, it only matters for the 2 seconds when that person sneezes or coughs! When the droplets fly!
now we can reverse that science to fit another narrative, let’s use this example. 4 v 4 with 9 skaters sitting on the bench. 9 more players sitting in a locker room. The kids on the bench are not sitting next to each other for more than a minute or so. The kids in the locker are sitting with each for 30 minutes not moving.
this is how science and numbers are manipulated to fit narratives.
That was the original science - droplets. Now the science says aerosol also. Droplets = Distance. Aerosols = Exposure (space you are in and length of time in that space). Not using math. I specifically said I was not going to argue the math. The point is you have to use different math for the different exposure types.
I agree with your points about locker rooms vs. benches. I've made that point before.
Using your argument about the 2 seconds when someone coughs on you is valid, hence my previous points about lining up for faceoffs. Other youth sports (lacrosse) have eliminated faceoffs for now. Other youth hockey leagues have also eliminated faceoffs now.
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2 hours ago, BeaverFalls said:
Again, the incongruity of this whole thing is what makes people upset and skeptical.
Here's the difference, and I am not advocating that the actual numbers are justified, just explaining the difference. It is exposure time.
In that store, no one of those 322 is next to someone for more than a minute, with the exception of the checkout, which is a few minutes. At a sporting event, people are next to each other for up to an hour and a half.
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18 hours ago, aaaahockey said:
Probably too soon to react to the court decision + the stuff I was asking earlier about what to do if the season switched mid season
It says in their documents that nothing they are doing now precludes going back to "regular" format if allowed.
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Update on DVHL plans, looks like we are going ahead with the 25 person limit:
DVHL has released their plan for season opening on 10/1 and added their Covid Protocol this afternoon
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6 hours ago, aaaahockey said:
We had this conversation about this earlier and no one ever heard of USAH insurance actually ever covering anything. Are there examples of it?
USAH insurance, for players, is a supplement for health insurance. It would pick up something that your normal health insurance does not. I know of 2 people that used it. But the claims process is a pain and it is only after other insurance and $1000 deductible are met.
This is really not the insurance issue I mean. The areas that are bigger concern are Catastrophic Injury (for players) and Liability Coverage (rinks and organizations, including coaches).
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On 9/7/2020 at 10:34 PM, aaaahockey said:
Yeah but they are going to say the same thing even if it was sanctioned. What if a kid snaps his neck in a non-covid world? Same rules apply.
If your team is playing in a sanctioned event, then the USA Hockey and related insurance is in force. If you are playing in a non-sanctioned event, then you are own for insurance coverage. This includes players, officials, rinks and organizations. Goes back to everything The King used to preach about USAH.
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I don't think the issue is really about enforcement. The potential issue is that once in a lifetime catastrophic injury or penalty. Somehow it ends up in court and the governing bodies are gonna say, they were not following local rules, so we did not sanction, so we have no liability. To most this will not matter, but to the party involved it could be a big deal.
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In addition to above, play basketball (or soccer and lacrosse), preferably with good coaches. Helps learn spacing, time and distance.
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Potential thorn in the side to open sports has popped up here in the east. 6 girls on a high school cheer squad test positive. Leads to 60 people quarantined. Contracted when one of the girls hung out with a friend who was a field hockey player. They were a school sponsored team at a private competition. Not sure if the competition was in state or out of state. The optics don't help the case for opening up sports.
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Atlantic District just sent an email to all members outlining their recent efforts and asking everyone to write their legislators. Here is the link to their online letter generator: https://act.newmode.net/action/atlantic-amateur-hockey-association/write-your-legislators
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I don't think it accomplishes anything other than making it look like the sponsors are doing something. I don't see it specifically overriding the emergency declaration. More smoke and mirrors.
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42 minutes ago, Scooby Doo said:
This is shocking but NOT surprising
This Week CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Other Other Serious Illnesses
further proof that we’ve all been duped and the liberals continue to lock down their states unnecessarily.
It has always been the position that people with other health issues are most of the deaths and we all know that it is mostly older people; why.... because they have other health issues.
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36 minutes ago, Scooby Doo said:
Another not surprising headline
New Study Argues COVID Herd Immunity May Have Already Been Reached in Some Regions of US
https://www.westernjournal.com/new-study-argues-covid-herd-immunity-may-already-reached-regions-us/
this is the PRIMARY reason we should have never locked down in the first place. Humans have survived viruses for the 200,000 years that they’ve been on earth. Until this year we’ve never tried to resist herd immunity until our states were shut down and we were forced into self quarantine which is opposite and holds back herd immunity
From the article:
“This means we need to be careful about declaring the epidemic over in a given location simply because cases have started to decline,” Justin Lessler, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, wrote in an Op-Ed in The Washington Post on Friday.
“What may be adequate immunity to stem the virus in summer may not be enough to stop epidemic spread in the winter — a phenomenon seen in each of the four modern influenza pandemics, where an initial summer wave quickly receded only to be followed by a large epidemic in the fall or winter.”
And the concept of Super Spreader was dismissed weeks ago. The issue is super spreader events, not individuals.
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From the East (District 1): Suburban One is playing and Central League is postponing.
SUBURBAN ONE LEAGUE PRESS RELEASE – DOYLESTOWN, PA – FRIDAY, August 28, 2020
The Suburban One League Executive Board voted this morning to approve Fall Sports in accordance with the delayed start proposal recommended by the Executive Committee on August 5, 2020. Under the approved plan, sports classified as Low/Moderate Risk which include Golf, Girls' Tennis, Girls’ and Boys’ Cross Country, Water Polo, Girls' and Boys' Soccer, Field Hockey, and Girls' Volleyball can have their first regular season contest as follows: Golf - September 3, 2020, Girls’ Tennis - September 8, 2020 and all other Low/Moderate Risk sports on September 21, 2020. The High-Risk Fall Sport (Football) can begin competition on October 2, 2020.
I like Garnet Valley Footballs approach (emphasis added):
Garnet Valley football coach Mike Ricci said his players were disappointed but determined to use the fall to prepare for what they hope will be a season in the spring.
“They are upset and justifiably,” Ricci said. “But once we work through that, we have the opportunity to respond in whatever way we want to respond. We need to choose to be positive. We need to use this time to continue to train, to get better so when the spring comes we’ll be prepared to be successful.”
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1 hour ago, hockeyisgreat said:
You are 100% right. Let Parents be responsible for their kids. Not politicians with an agenda! Wait till January. I still want to know what will be different then?
Maybe nothing, in which case the restrictions may continue. He didn't say we can play with no restrictions on January 1st, he said the current restrictions should stay in place until January 1st.
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This ^^^^^
When they are 6, just get them to love being at the rink! When the rinks start letting you back in take him to open skate. Take him to watch the big kids. Walk around the dashers and collect the pucks. Buy a snack. When they are teenagers and they are at the rink you will be thankful that they are there instead of worrying what trouble they might be out getting into (had a wise midget coach tell me that one afternoon and I thanked him 10 years later).