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16 hours ago, Overqualified said:

You just don't just pick 2 or 3 kids from each team to make it look good pick the most deserving kids

Weather it's  5 kids from 1 team or 1 kid from another team

So tired of the  woke crap maybe don't let a person from the lib news do the picking

The way you write, you sound like you're in the Penn Hills school district.

4 hours ago, sadday4hockey said:

Let's try a little role change of sports.

What if this were a few players on a 5A or 6A football team?

 

Same thing- done for the season. Easy answer. 

4 hours ago, Overqualified said:

All stars

Why is the weather man in charge of the all stars?

He didn't want 1 team to have 5 players and another team to only  have 1

Shouldn't the best kids be on the all star team inmy jstead of trying to have all the teams with 2 or 3 kids to even things out why would we not have coaches give input

In a meeting 

Is PIHL woke now

But his 2 kids made it

 

Sorry your kid didn't make the irrelevant All Star game. He won't miss much.

18 hours ago, Pa Hockey said:

And ruin the program because an immature kid did something stupid ?

The discipline committee was independent group of people from the PIHL and issued a fair penalty which FR has accepted and is moving on. Kudos to the PIHL!

With 8 players out of the lineup (4 suspended + 2 Injured + 2 sick) beat TJ 4-1 last night. Great goaltending 40 Saves and hsve a chance to salvage the season.

Suspending 4 kids for the season would ruin the program? Exaggerate much?

18 hours ago, Pa Hockey said:

Since you dont know and must know. 

The school suspended each of the players from school for this incident

The PIHL handed out supplementary discipline 4 to 7 League Games to the 5 players.

This sends a pretty clear message to all and a precedent for the PIHL Discipline. 

Drinking alcohol and doing drugs do not belong in the game and will be punished if caught.

 

   

4 to 7 games really doesn't sound like a very big, groundbreaking message for breaking an underage drinking law at a school event. Curious if any were planning to drive after? Or did?

Maybe it's just me? But done for the season would seem like an even clearer message.

20 hours ago, zam said:

I got Dibs on him for my beer League team next season.

Sorry, already drafted to KHL in the 1st round. 3 seasons ago. They know what they got.

6 hours ago, twoboys said:

From what I heard and what you guys are talking about, it is clear that none of you know what happened.  You guys are missing part of the story.

What part? Sounds pretty clear. What's being left out?

9 hours ago, sadday4hockey said:

Karen, Karen, Karen.......

What will you do when this is what the supply of competent coaches looks like?

Why, because you're asking a coach to stick around for 20 minutes after the game? Get a grip. If the coach is too much of a primadonna to do it (I don't know why they would be, they are coaching pihl hockey, not the NHL), then have a board member or parent with clearances as a locker room monitor. It's not some radical idea. 

If you want to invite problems, then don't have one. I don't know what to tell you. 

And I'd also add that the supply of competent coaches in the area already kinda looks like that. 

11 hours ago, sadday4hockey said:

So now it's Coach's fault?

They're even easier to avoid when the parents of the players do their job.

This forum definitely does a great job of absolving those responsible despite those people not doing their part.

This includes players and parents.

Accountability and consequences have surprisingly effective results.

It's not ALL the coach's fault, obviously. But they are the adults in charge of the minors on the team. They share in the responsibility. 

If you want to open your team up to problems like that, hazing, fights, etc., by all means don't have an adult present. Just trust the mental midgets on their own to be angels.

Any any board that wants to avoid problems, would see that an adult coach or another adult with clearances acting as a monitor would be present until the last kid is out of the room. It's common sense. 

Locker room issues are really easy to avoid when a coach is present. 

I'm hearing they got 6 or 7 games. Not sure if that's legit.

8 hours ago, hockeyisgreat said:

Who all is involved with the hearing?  Is there a predetermined hearing committee? Does it meet regularly or only when the need arises?

They can drag it out pretty long if they want. I'm guessing an abuse of official charge, it'll be drug out as long as possible. 

57 minutes ago, Corsi said:

From the accounts that I have followed on here, it seems like the officials were in the process of breaking up a series of altercations near the end of a lopsided game.  As one player from the losing team was being escorted off the ice, a teammate attempted to intervene and while the official was attempting to keep him from becoming involved he reacted by striking the official, let me know if that is incorrect.  

I have officiated in the past and have had to breakup a number of fights all the way from 8U up to adult league games.  It is impossible to breakup an altercation at any age without physically engaging the players that are involved, regardless of age.  It gets exponentially more difficult to do as the both the physical size and intensity level both ramp up.  For anyone to think that officials in a high school hockey game would not have a level of physical contact with the players involved has obviously NEVER officiated a game.  If an official is doing his or her job correctly, there will be physical contact, so if a player reacts to that contact by striking or making contact with an official in an aggressive way the issue is with the player and not the official.

100%. I also think people need to remember also that in most cases there are 2 refs and 12 players in the ice. Anything more than 2 players involved becomes a problem when there's only two officials to break it up and not have anybody get injured. 

6 hours ago, Carl Racki said:

I guess using a similar example twice is an obsession.  I will save that one for the wpapolice.net next time.  Sorry 

Right, because police are 100% beyond reproach. All are saints. Just like referees.

7 hours ago, Carl Racki said:

 No, not the ref.  I didn't even look to see who it was.  Just tired of people blaming police, blaming officials, when the do stupid things. 

  The ref was out there doing a good job of dealing with the BS that occured.  What is he supposed to do?  The one kid is pushing him while he is escorting the other player who was out of control off.  Then you accuse the ref of abuse????  Yeah, I have a problem with that.  Put yourself in that situation and how would have you handled it better?  Lace them up!  I thought he did pretty good considering both of those players where pushing him and wrestling with him while escorting the one off after several altercations for that one player.  Clearly he couldn't let him go until he was off the ice.  He tried it once and how did that work out.  

Not saying you're wrong about the game... but this is a hockey forum. Why the obsession to keep bringing up the police? 

3 hours ago, aaaahockey said:

Why would the YMCA or SSA go along with that?   I assume they control the livebarn not the orgs that play there. 

No idea, but what other benefit would there be to not have sound on?

I'm assuming so that if there's a complaint of harassment or language by players or spectators, you can't go to livebarn for evidence. 

I can't imagine any other reason to do that.

If you're lucky, you can get some game used diapers after the game. They'll be worth a lot when they go pro.

This has just created a market for Quadruple A... 

I'm pretty sure his tournaments are more determined by MHR than what letters the teams call themselves. He even will watch some livebarn to see where to place teams when there's any question. Good tournaments.

Let's be real. Virtually everybody is going no further than ACHA or club. I don't care how many skill lessons you have. It boils down to having multiple choices for a play, picking the right one in milliseconds, and doing this over and over and over consistently. The stickhandling helps but if you can't process the game at the speed as it gets faster and faster you aren't getting anywhere. And I don't know that that can be taught. If you can think the game that fast, by all means lots of skills lessons will be a good thing. But genes and a mind for hockey come first.

So do the skill lessons, but don't think it's make-or-break to do more than one a week. And maybe once a month is fine, just to break bad habits that can be picked up at practice when no one is paying attention. 

If you're a regular kid, as 99.99% percent are when it comes to moving up the hockey ladder, do whatever is most fun and enjoyable and what can be afforded. 

And if you do at least 2:1 ratio of skating lessons to stick work, you'll be way far ahead of most. I'll take the better skaters any day, skating is the number 1 thing. 

It's a good way to learn how to stickhandle and shoot the puck (usually at an empty net or shooter tutor). Also great to learn how to skate and stick handle through cones. Good for endurance. Good for looking great at tryouts and not as great in a game. 

I will say I think skating lessons are worth 10x what general skills lessons are worth. 

And be wary of coaches who give paid skills lessons to their own players. 

It looks like if they would've just scrapped one of the A's, they'd be having a somewhat competitive season. 🤷‍♂️

4 hours ago, Ihearthockey said:

That time seems to have already come.  No JV team this year.  

Pretty sure a ton of teams have no JV teams. 

On 10/19/2024 at 12:49 PM, Icebucket said:

Yea it's already looking like A is going to be a mess in terms of blowouts. CV, QV, Mars, and Avonworth are going to absolutely destroy the teams in the bottom half of each division.

Many complained about them splitting the division into upper and lower levels last year. Not that I think it's the way to go, but it did help to at least lessen the blowout rate. Not quite sure what the right approach is.

I thought they were doing A Gold and A Blue, a top half and bottom half for the A division. At least that's what I thought the Gold and Blue designations meant.