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Did you not read what I wrote? If the federal government says rinks can open, but USA hockey cancels the season, people, organizations etc are just going to break away from USA hockey and purchase the ice. As I mentioned in a previous post, there will be a rogue governing body ready to take the reigns before the USA hockey canceled season email makes the “swoosh” sent sound. The people make the hockey world go around, not USA hockey. USA hockey simply has just organizes the rules and gets paid.

I don’t think many people necessarily care who has been the better entity between USA hockey and AAU. If people can get their kids playing again under AAU, USA hockey is done for. If rinks are open for business and USA hockey cancels the season, does anyone actually think the rinks will fall in line with that? As mentioned, rinks will have up “enter at your own risk” signs and liability waivers. Then they will proceed to sell ice to whoever wants to buy it. With all of that said I think the lawsuit angle is not realistic. How would one even prove that someone else they encountered at an ice rink is the person that got them ill. This is akin to suing giant eagle because they are open, and you think you acquired the sickness there. I don’t think there’s a single legal leg to stand on when it comes to someone getting sick from entering your place of business. There are no amount of forensics that can determine whether you got sick from an ice rink, or if someone sneezed out of his car window at a red light and the particles entered your vehicle. Either way, if rinks are allowed to open, there will be hockey. Whether USA hockey permits it or not. No rink owner is going to let his investment turn into a bankruptcy because USA hockey told him he can’t have hockey there, while the federal government says he can.

How are they on track to shut it down? And again, USA hockey has everything to lose by canceling the season. Rinks gone, Job losses, participation numbers dwindling. They don’t want that blood on their hands if rinks are open for business. Outside of that, they aren’t stupid, they know that people will find a way to play so they might as well maintain their peice of the pie $$$

Not doubting that the people in California may have had it. I just work in healthcare and had knowledge of how much influenza b was going around at the time. It ran rampant in schools around western pa.

Unless the rinks are bailed out. Which would be just as bad for hockey players. Rink owners will sit back and collect, offering no resistance. Really there should be an initiative to hit the ground running as soon as rinks opens up. In a perfect world teams would hold try outs by mid June and immediately begin a season that runs through October. AAA and those traveling may have to play more locally due to logistics but who cares, it’s better than no hockey. And then another summer hockey season in 2021.

I don’t know what the remedy is. I’m sure youth sports is not even on governments radar right now. When it does come across their plate and they dive in, they are going to have to consider the jobs and businesses involved with youth sports. When focusing on hockey, disallowing an amateur hockey season to take place would effectively kill off rinks, then the sport itself by proxy. They will bankrupt, they will close and most properties will be foreclosed or sold off to companies who obviously won’t have any intention on using the structure as a rink in the future. That’s the good news. It will be of concern forcing people out of work and owners in a hole. The bad news. Most rinks employ what, 10 people? The majority of those 10 being teenagers or young adults making $10 an hour. The employment loss, and the income level might just not be relevant to those making decisions.

Wishful thinking. The sickness going around the hockey community and virtually everywhere else was an an early emergence of influenza b. B doesn’t typically appear until later in the flu season. It was all over the news and just about everyone and anyone got sick. People were testing positive for influenza. They wouldn’t have been testing positive for influenza if they had the coronavirus.

They won’t make a decision like that as they know they would have rogue operations popping up before the email makes the delivered sound. They will let the states, governors be the bad guy.

You also cannot risk breaking the healthcare system with overrun hospitals. You people are thinking overrun as in someone had to get treatment in a hallway. No, no stay at home orders, life as usual could equate to thousands of people showing up to hospitals and not getting care. Doctors and nurses walking away from their jobs and eventually a societal break. If the healthcare system goes, you’ll have riots, chaos and martial law. That’s reality.

I don’t understand this logic here. Let’s say we kept up business as usual. No social distancing, we all went about our lives. What do you think the infection and death rate would be then? That simple question completely overrides anything I’ve read here. 63,000 deaths to date with intense mitigation strategies. Just based on simple math, had we not shut down, we’d be talking millions of deaths. People like to site empty hospitals. Yes, because what we have been doing has worked most places. Short of a cess pool like NYC and some other overcrowded areas.

Thinking outside the box, and maybe without logic but taking the game outside may be the only answer to having a season. Should this come back later on this year. Most rinks have a flat large lot. Buy or rent the tubing and hook it up to the chillers. Use the boards they have from inside. Weather dependent? Yes. Pain? Yes. It’s better than no revenue though. We have mild winters around here anymore, it’s not like kids will suffer practicing outside a few nights a week.

Wonder what one of those outdoor rinks costs? Like the one in south side a while back. Would it be very expensive if you already had chillers to hook it up to?

I don’t know, I’m just guessing that we won’t see any permanent rink closures right now. Rinks were mostly able to fulfill their obligations for ice time sold to organizations for the 19-20 year (short of try outs). Sure they’re missing out on revenue now, but the big money was made. What is concerning is what the fall/winter has in store. If this happens again, in this fashion, I think it would be disastrous for rinks everywhere.

For those wondering. The entire state is still in red. Whatever counties move down to yellow will be subject to: Indoor Recreation, Health and Wellness Facilities (such as gyms, spas), and all Entertainment (such as casinos, theaters) Remain Closed Again, 4 weeks to go from Red to all clear just isn’t realistic.

Pennsylvania’s website has detailed their multi staged re-opening strategy. There are red, yellow and green designations to represent the different levels of “reopening”. It seems as if an ice rink being able to open to the public would only fall under its respective county being designated under the green section, per the criteria. Currently there are some north-central counties that PA is eyeing to move to yellow. Yellow still being pretty restricting in terms of what businesses can be open. Looking at the criteria for yellow, it’s safe to say an ice rink in a designated “yellow county” will not be open. Based upon the rate at which things are moving. Expectations for Allegheny County, and Western PA in general to have open ice rinks by the end of May aren’t reasonable. I don’t think Western PA is going to move through the tiered reopening stage in 4 weeks time. Red, to yellow, to green.

Where are you hearing that Michigan will not have hockey this winter?