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13 hours ago, Rewster said:

I would think that a lot (or most) of the teams would charter a bus. At least those based East of the Mississippi River. I’m only guessing based on showcase tournaments.

Makes sense, but there is literally nowhere around there to park multiple busses, except maybe the Walmart parking lot like a mile away on the next hill over.

Not that I'm going, but where does BB expect people to park for the Nationals @ Center Ice?

Heck, for just some regular busy weekends people park all the way down the drive in the front.  I'm trying to figure out where 12+ teams worth of parents cars are going to park.

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Why has the PAHL always kept the stats a secret?  That's been going on for a decade I believe.

Regarding scoring/PAHL scoresheets/etc.

I was a long-time manager mostly at the AA and AAA level.  I didn't care which team was which, I tried to be as accurate as possible both ways with the stats.

What I found most of the time is the refs were lazy and would only give me 1 assist most of the time, even though I knew (easily) who had the second assist (for both teams)...

I knew how to count shots and never bullcrapped around with padding stats.

But I have literally sat next to other teams scorekeepers and they were totally clueless on shots/saves, etc.

I've been gone from the PAHL for years, but I still think the dumbest move ever was implementing Fair Play Points.

15 minutes ago, Danner27 said:

Dave is still around? He did a great job running the CHE into the ground. Didn’t realize he left that leauge. 

he's still the commie at CHE as well.  Must be nice to dip in all that $$$

https://www.collegehockeyeast.com/personnel

I have no idea how he got the PAHL job or the CHE job.  He's well connected and I guess that's the key.

2 hours ago, nemesis8679 said:

Imagine if you could see the actual scoresheets. It would substantiate the rinks where the visiting teams routinely and blatantly get homered. 

Armstrong would easily be in the top 5.

Slightly OT, but how the heck did DF get the position as ED with PAHL when to the best of my knowledge he never had anything to do with them???  WTF?

Regardless, he's done nothing to improve anything since we left a few years back.  Everything still sucks... Just like the WPIAL.

3 hours ago, nemesis8679 said:

PAHL wants to charge the money and do the least work possible. Basically they run an organized in-house league that travels to play. I can see it getting to where they're being challenged with a competitor now and will probably end up rolling over and giving up as they continue to lose players and teams. 

However, I'll add that the AHF/THF groups on Facebook have an awful lot of complaining about "my kid faced 60 shots but the scoresheet only said 58", "they totally missed my kid's secondary assists 3 time this weekend", or any different incarnations of that you can think of. So I can see where PAHL doesn't want hounded week in and week out with those kind of complaints. 

I was just going to say the same thing to @hockeyisgreat but you beat me to it.  They get paid $$$ and try to skate by with the minimum amount of work possible.  Strange how nothing has changed much since Darcee left.

The PAHL and Midam are total hack buddy-buddy orgs.  I couldn't break the glass to get in there, despite trying for years when my kids were active.  They want the status quo and nothing more.  No ambition, nobody with motivation to improve.

The top 2 people in that org are stooges... none of this is surprising.

9 hours ago, ice is cold said:

Our family is out of the game as it pertains to pahl, pihl and anything youth hockey. My only 2 cents is my sons pahl team when he was 14u had a female player (she was very good) but missed half of the pahl co-ed games due to conflicts with her girls team or the other 3rd (and 4th) team she was on. At one point the conflict was them playing each other. I feel that is an issue. A pahl teammate missing games/practice for a  pihl conflict is ok and  acceptable. But to miss because of pahl or similar conflicts I see an issue...Mind you this was years ago, I can imagine it happens more now. Just something to think about..... Boys only miss for pihl hockey conflicts... So ultimately it hurts the team (s) they may be multi rostered on.... 

Our daughter was in this situation.  We told the PAHL and PIHL coaches that the AAA team was her priority.  They didn't have a problem...  But scenarios from coach to coach would vary.

But I get it that everyone is worried about lawsuits, etc.

On 2/26/2024 at 1:15 PM, whatever said:

Robert Morris University wants to build a $28 million arena on campus for its Division I men’s and women’s hockey programs and is seeking $10 million from the state for the project.

As an RMU alum, I have ZERO idea where on campus they can fit a multi plex arena setup, without demolishing existing buildings - or filling in the valley on the back of campus.  There is not much room on that property.

"Gender Equality Issue..." 😵‍💫

So glad I'm not dealing with this bullcrap anymore.  The PAHL and Midam are run by inbred stooges.

2 hours ago, Ihearthockey said:

Any truth to the rumor that PPE is bringing back black teams up through Bantam?

This would be surprising, given the state of the environment and that hockey is one of the most expensive sports...  but never underestimate the pens attempts to mess up youth hockey.

The only org my son played on, and we felt the tryouts were fair and unbiased (for the most part LOL), was with Allegheny in the PRE-BlackBear days.  They would bring in outside evaluators and grade the players based on what they saw, not by how many years they played for Allegheny.

1 hour ago, nemesis8679 said:

And if you want to get on a good team at North Pittsburgh, you better be on a team there from the beginning. 

😁

this

3 hours ago, forbin said:

Just understand that as he gets older, hockey is basically like having another full time job that doesn’t pay. It’s a massive time commitment and a huge investment. If your son continues to play at a higher level you will never be home on weekends and most weeknights your dinner time will be 9pm. You will put thousands of miles on your car, spend way too much at the drive through, and alter your families schedule around hockey. As cliche as it is to say, it really is a lifestyle.

This pretty much sums up our experience from 2010-2020 with 2 kids playing AA/AAA hockey who both were very good players.  Never home, bank account drained, cars with 170,000 miles on them. Neither child playing college hockey. Son plays beer league.

Any paid positions for scoresheet/clock?

On 11/22/2023 at 2:50 AM, nemesis8679 said:

Very shady? I'd go a step further and say a history of being a criminal. I'd find some other beer league to play in. I wouldn't give this guy a dime or trust him with anything. This isn't someone who simply made a bad decision or was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's a pattern of deceptive and fraudulent behavior. The guy's a conman. Of course since it's white collar money crimes, he'll continue to get slaps on the wrist and be able to keep up the next grift as fast as he can come up with them. If you want to have a laugh, find the video of the "contract signing" on the team's Facebook page. Dude is like straight out of central casting as a crooked used-car dealer. If I was those players, I'd be very apprehensive of signing anything knowing his prior history of forgery and not honoring them. Apparently since he can't sell insurance or cars in the state of PA anymore, he does "exotic animal" show & tells at nursing homes and birthday parties now. I wouldn't let this huckster get within 50 yards of a vulnerable old person. I pre-emptively feel bad for whoever is getting fleeced in this hockey venture. 

Here's a couple of his easily-found run-ins with the law. 

https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:VA6C2:3361510b-442f-49bd-bdae-24affc29943e

https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:VA6C2:a13a715d-fd3c-40de-89d7-be78939ca84e

 

Are these the same two documents?? They look the same.

48 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

The only team in the Badgers history that had good kids, parents and coaches 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Thank you.  I will take credit for keeping the players somewhat inline on the teams managed throughout the years.  I take no responsibility for the parents, although I don't recall issues there either. Maybe you never were on an excellently managed team.

On 10/31/2023 at 11:34 AM, JerryTime said:

So for ~8 years you were "reverse homered" but at a few other rinks the home team got the calls. If your rosters stayed somewhat consistent over the years I'm seeing a common denominator...

I can 100% assure you bad behavior / mouthing off, unsportsmanlike was never part of any team or from any of the coaches that I managed during timeframe.  

The consistent thing was that our team was usually received many more penalties each game at home.  

it is what it is.

2 hours ago, Icebucket said:

I don't see any way there was intent there. The player who cut him had just made contact with Johnson's teammate right before leading to him going off balance. Do you think Johnson's teammate should also face charges for making incidental contact leading to the skate being raised?

Between NHL and amateurs, I have probably watched 3,000 games.  Not once have I ever seen a player do that with his leg.  And if you look very closely at the slow motion, he gets Adam directly on the leg spin then kicks again at him on his way down.  There are two skate movements towards his head.

I have no idea how you see this as accidental, when he was BRUSHED - if that- but Adam's teammate, certainly not to the extent that his leg powerfully and directionally swings fully around and goes at a 30 degree upward motion.

I have seen hits where the player is fully spun around wildly, but due to gravity and physics, the legs are usually swinging level, or most of the time, downward.

This player swings his leg around and flings it so hard he flips himself to the ground --- not as the result of a check.  Watch it again.

6 minutes ago, Pucks11 said:

The Badgers parents and players are well known amongst the refs as being the dirtiest and rudest players and fans in the area. Of all the organizations to say they get reversed homered, no it's just being called right. They actually had a kid (13) tell a female ref to go make him a sandwich, multiple kids double bird the fans and even had a kid air jack off to the crowd as he got kicked out of a game. That's just recent stuff.

I can assure you the teams that I managed during the timeframe I referenced did not have these sorts of kids on it.  As manager I was at every single game and never saw any behavior like this, period.  But we're likely in two different age ranges and times, so I can't speak for other teams that I wasn't part of.  

6 minutes ago, Happy Hockey Fan said:

Police are investigating. Hopefully you are wrong. Hopefully. 

I haven't heard that.  But don't know how that can be construed as an accident.

If you haven't seen the snippet of Adam Johnson getting hit in the throat by a "reverse roundhouse kick" by the other player, you might want to check it out.  Once again, I've seen a ton of hockey over the years, and never saw anyone fall over on their own and then do a leg swing behind them and up in the air.

Looked very intentional to me.  The player also casually watched the aftermath and skated away, instead of rushing back to help the player which was another telltale sign to me.

I didn't post the video here but it is all over twitter.

I hope this is investigated, but from the races of the parties involved, along with the immediate "freak injury" crap from the media, I'm not confident this will be looked at.

I'd especially like to hear from some of the old timers on here about their thoughts on this one.

As far as Center Ice aka Palmer Imaging Arena, even though my son played AA there for multiple years roughly 2012-2020, we would very often routinely get "reverse homered" by the refs and pretty much always be on the short end of the stick in terms of power plays.  And our teams were skill based, not goon based AA teams like other teams in that timeframe.  

So I will disagree that during that timeframe at that level home teams had the advantage, because we were constantly on the short end at home there.