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2 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said:
There seems to be a whole lot of jealousy out there when it comes to Esmark and particularly Yuri. But then again it seems that most people who come here have an ax to grind with someone. All organizations get bashed at some point! But then again that's human nature.
Unfortunately, your comment about human nature is true. I just don’t like it! Haha.
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1 hour ago, fafa fohi said:
From what I have seen teams “pacing” all four lines rarely ever beat one team heavily leaning on the top two lines in PIHL. Varsity hockey coaches are doing that for a reason as it gives them the best chance to win, whether you agree with it or not. Hockey at the varsity level is not developmental hockey like JV or MS where it is all about equal playing time.
If a team has four decent lines it can be advantage, however most teams at the A level don’t have 4 decent lines, and having three at that level is rare. At the AA level, there are more teams with 4 decent lines, and their third is usually pretty good. At the AAA level more teams have 4 capable lines.
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1 hour ago, nemesis8679 said:
I think I figured out who you are.
Yuri's grandpap. Right?
Yeah, that’s it. I’m his grandpa. Why would that be even remotely funny?
I don’t know Yuri. Never met him. Only have seen him from across the ice from the stands. I just state facts. Never praised him personally. Did I hurt your feelings or something?
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2 hours ago, sadday4hockey said:
They only compete when they have enough talented imports.
Disagree. While I am sure talented imports help, just like talented imports help the Pens teams, there have been plenty of local kids from their teams advance to higher levels. And there have a number of local kids lead their teams in scoring.
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3 hours ago, sadday4hockey said:
Big Boy Hockey??
They play in the NAPHL and the THF.
Those are both Elementary "Tier 1 Leagues"
The old Empire West League was better competition and the furthest travel was syracuse.
Why the league bashing? The league as a whole and Esmark have produced D1 players. Maybe not a ton but they do get there. Not every league can be the top one.
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12 minutes ago, Overqualified said:
Bishop Canevin coach they were terrible did the same thing at Mars turned them into a great team and other teams he coached
Their are some great coaches out there until boards and crazy parents chase them away
Can you re-write this in so people can understand what you mean?
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6 hours ago, hockeyisgreat said:
Don't know the Pens Coaches but I would have to say that Yuri & Kosick at Esmark have to be doing something right as their 16 & 18U teams are consistently competitive and beat the Pens sometimes. The coach of the 06 independent SHAHA AAA team might have been the best of the bunch. Not sure of his name but b put together really good teams up to last year.
I think the 18U Esmark team has 8 or 9 kids tendered to Junior teams!
And this program has moved some players to the NCAA D1.
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8 hours ago, Nepotisim_anyone said:
Name them. Most are just walking around trying to relive their youth as they never amounted to much. I can even think of one just running Daddy’s business and still thinks he’s going somewhere & is full of empty promises.
No need to name them. They don’t need to be dragged into it. But I don’t think you are thinking of the same coaches as me. As neither one works for their Daddy’s company and neither have any delusions of their continued hockey careers. Thanks for guessing, wrong.
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2 hours ago, sadday4hockey said:
Knowing your X's and O's does NOT qualify you as good.
Having played in the NHL does not qualify you as good.
These are children, adolescents and young adults. Coaches need to know how to communicate to specific age players.
One could argue that a learn to play coach who has crossed the paths of 1000's of players and taught them to love the game is a better Coach than a high level Coach who is successful but makes some players lose interest or quit the sport altogether.
100%. Just because someone was a great athlete or super student of the game doesn’t mean they can communicate to kid
3 hours ago, BACKCHECKING said:Who do you think is the best 2011, 2010, 2009 and 2008 AAA coaches in Pittsburgh?
I don’t know all of them. But I do know a couple of guys in the age groups you have mentioned that I believe to be good coaches that are not at the Pens. Both have pretty good pedigree, but more importantly they both have made better players out of kids under their tutelage.
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1 hour ago, BACKCHECKING said:
Pens are the only option for good AAA coaching in Pittsburgh. Esmark has become ghetto and trashy since CJ started coaching. Vengeance once again lost half of their roster to Esmark and Predators due to a narcissistic dad coach. Predators lost all their top players because of coaching / assistant coaching decisions. The lack of coaching leadership of both teams caused the fight.
10’s parents should take note from of the 09’s and ask the question why Esmark and Vengeance can’t field 09 teams anymore.
The only place to get good coaching? That is a slap in the face to a lot of really good coaches out there. Once again, Pens Elite is NOT the greatest show on earth. Kids advance without them all the time. I wish your kid the best of luck, but just because he plays for the Pens doesn’t mean he is “making it”. And there are also kids his age that don’t play for the pens that will.
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Teams being advertised as AA has been going on forever even though PAHL doesn’t determine who is going to play AA until placements take place months after teams have been picked. It is a shame that it is even allowed. Of course you can always play an independent schedule and claim to be whatever you want. AAA, AA or maybe AAAAA.
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24 minutes ago, Rewster said:
I’d love to know a little bit more about Jon Sr’s training methods. I don’t know any details, but it seems to me that he’s obviously doing something right.
If anyone that has any information that they’d be willing to share privately and confidentially (i.e. written plan, home exercise program, nutritional assessment and any supplements, seasonal/time of the year protocols, etc) please feel free to DM me.
There’s a ton of newer sport-specific training methods centered on the holistic approach…especially the previously much-overlooked side of sports involving mental health and management. There’s still so much information and knowledge to be gained.
I think a lot of it has to do with two things, genetics and the fact that they have their own refrigerated rink!
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39 minutes ago, zam said:
I think I found 1 player that fits your criteria!
From Western PA
Played,PPE 14U,15U,16U,
Invited to NTDP tryout
Drafted USHL
Boston University Commit
Drafted 3rd round NHL
Who gets the credit?How about we give credit to the kid. I don’t think any coach or program deserves all the credit for any player advancing. Talent has to be there. Kid has to want it and work hard. Coaches can’t do anything about either of those criteria. Yes coaches can and do influence how players advance, but without talent and dedication to hard work, kids aren’t going anywhere.
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To anybody that thinks a kid moving up from AA to AAA in the later stages of their youth careen can’t be as good as their little Johnny who has always played AAA, go pound salt. I know a kid who didn’t play AAA until U18. Was the best Dman on his AAA team. Went on to NAHL, and then Division 1. His teammates have not have the same success.
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1 hour ago, Chinstrap said:
If the Board has any say in coach hiring or compensation.
In high school the Board is usually the group that hires and sets salary. And I know of a varsity position or two that don’t pay anywhere near what has been stated here.
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7 hours ago, fafa fohi said:
Well, there were at least two players on the U18 team that attended elsewhere - PR and DL.
I was lead to believe that they had to go there. But I guess there are exceptions.
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1 hour ago, aaaahockey said:
They were never really "rules" anyway. So not sure what they would change except tell people they arent "rules".
If they weren’t rules what were they? Just suggestions? Because not one kid that played U18 attended school elsewhere.
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I have heard that the Pens are removing the rules that their kids have to attend North Catholic and Excel Academy. Anyone else?
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Armstrong’s division is a hornets nest! All tied at 3 points. Only one goal differential beteen top team and the 2 and 3 teams. Only +2 goal difference with the 4 team. Good luck Armstrong!
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10 hours ago, Pa Hockey said:
Canevin has had a great program for a long time at AA and won over 600 Games and 8 Penguins Cups and 4 State Titles.
They can play in Non PIHL Tournaments and compete. It would be nice to see them in AA but would mean the players from Seton LaSalle and Keystone Oaks would have to enroll in Canevin and they would be pure. Commitment to the School and Program. Costs money and can be done. People always want o have things both ways and the reality is the the league has rules to follow.
Vaccaro played at Ringgold FYI.
I still don’t think they compete at AA.
Vaccaro also played at Duquesne. So did Zielmanski who also played at Central. And Timmons and Fedor played at Canevin. Timmons at CMU and Fedor at Pitt. And Pawlus played at Canevin and YSU. All very good players. Timmons was outstanding. FYI. But I have no idea what that has to do with this discussion.
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1 minute ago, Overqualified said:
Wrong about number of AAA players on Canevin
You shouldn't open your mouth if you don't know the facts there is no way you played at Canevin
Now I get it, you are a player from Canevin. I assure you I played there. I can even tell you almost every coach they have had there since 1984. Know many of them personally. Oldaker, Koch, Timmons, Fedor, Zielmanski, Vacarro, Pawlus, just to name a few. Not allowed to post players names here.
I guess I shouldn’t argue with you about how many AAA players are on Canevin’s team because you play for them. But kids that played amateur AA this year, but played amateur AAA previously no longer count as AAA players. They are classified as amateur AA players. So I am sure what ever total you claim it to be, it is a lot lower. 3 of your top 10 scorers played AAA this year.
Lots of really good players on Canevin’s team. Just not as many as most teams that play PIHL AA.
I wish you nothing but success going forward. Unfortunately we will never get to see you play those teams. Maybe ask your coach to play in the St. Margaret’s pre-season tournament.
hopefully I will get to see you play next year. I saw you play this year. And you probably were pretty good.
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12 minutes ago, Overqualified said:
If you took the top 10 skaters and a goalie from each of the 4 divisions all 4 teams would be pretty equal your not better because of the division you play in high school in
AAA high school isn't like AAA tier 1 like amateurs
When they start a ten player league let me know. And I still think your ten player team from Canevin is at the bottom of AA and would get scorched in AAA. AA and AAA teams draw from very large numbers of kids. AAA and most AA schools are from higher income areas that have more kids that play hockey than kids at lower income schools. They not only have more numbers, but they have more numbers of highly skilled players because of it. Canevin had one kid on a AAA roster this year. A bunch of quality AA players too. Look at the rosters of some of the rosters of some AA teams. Loaded with AAA and AA players.
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25 minutes ago, Overqualified said:
Your not in AAA because you are good it's the size of your school they do try to move schools to different divisions to be more competitive but they don't look to see how many seniors are leaving from year to year
Every year there is 2 or 3 good teams in each of the 4 divisions any of those teams could beat one another on any given day after that there is a big difference each division is top loaded
BC beat CV this year and CV went undefeated BC tries to play other schools in different divisions but they don't want to play it doesn't look good if you lose to a D2 school I get it
BC did pretty good at AA 8 pens cups just because they are small now doesn't make them not a good team
When BC plays TJ Lebo CV Baldwin USC ect in summer league they never have a problem winning granted it is summer league
Nobody has done there homework on how many D2 kids play at the next level? Way more than the other divisions
Burrell Neshannock Bishop Canevin Carrick Ringgold
You are obviously a Canevin parent. And I understand that you want the kids to get proper recognition. But Canevin would be at the bottom of AA. Yes Canevin has some players playin at higher levels, and I know how many. I have seen them play amateur games and not just Canevin games. And there are some very good players, very very good players. But most AA teams have many players playing at higher levels. Like 3 full lines of higher level players. And a fourth line that is good. Canevin barely plays two lines. And any 4th line players hardly ever see the ice at Canevin if they aren’t blowing someone out.
Once again, I root for Canevin. I know a kid on the team now and have known kids on the team for several years. I am also a graduate of and former player at Canevin. Big fan of all Canevin Athletics. I am just not looking through your parent shaded glasses.
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52 minutes ago, forbin said:
Reading comprehension must not be your thing.
Jake is the 09 coach this year (15O)
Nick has the 10’s (14u) and the 12’s (12u)
Ty has his favorites the 11’s (13u). He had the 09’s as well up until this year.
I didn’t look at this year’s coaches. I was going on last years. I can read quite well, have a college degree from a good university and a very high IQ. How about you? I am sure with the way you turn to insults you are no match for my intelligence.
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I would say that there usually a big difference in talent between top and bottom lines in Open and A. Gap closes in AA, and probably closes a little more in AAA.
and most coaches that win do run their top guys a lot more than the rest of the players on the lower lines. And that goes a long way back. I know a couple of Canevin’s state championships were won on the talents of a few really good players. (Not earlier 80’s teams, they were stacked with three good lines for a few years) And there are definitely other teams that have achieved lots of wins the same way. That is the nature of winning. But at the same time, a really good coach will make those kids that don’t get much playing time better players. Which is what I personally think makes great coaches, and not just good coaches.