Spear and Magic Helmet
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It's been years since I was around this, but way back in the day, the "recruiting" was really more so the colleges could tell the kids about their programs. The benefit was really more for the ACHA programs than to the kids in that the kids often didn't really even know much about the ACHA teams. That being said, the kids also would have had to have applied to the schools by now and I think in some cases, financial aid stuff was due around Feb 1. I imagine it's somewhat true today too. I think basically the ACHA programs want to show the kids that the hockey is serious and worth doing, maybe give them some information on how the teams work and whatnot. I think Pitt and maybe Duquesne have locker rooms at Alpha, so maybe they want to show that off too.
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You're not wrong about the taxpayers paying for this building. I would argue it's more than 45 Penguins games though. There are a number of concerts and other events at PPG every year. Certainly the Penguins are the main tenant, but they are far from the only user of the facility - just last weekend we had NCAA basketball there. I stand by my point that someone has to pay to turn on the lights. You might start by asking who sponsored your City Game on Ice. I'm sure there is a reason it's not a yearly event at PPG. We also paid for the Wells Fargo arena or whatever it's called out east, and they never have the state championships there either. I am sure money is not the only reason we don't have high school hockey events at PPG, but money an easy out for PPG if they want to say no. To your point, back in the 1970s, there were many, many regular season games at the Civic Arena.
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I guess it depends on what the ticket costs, but 6000 tickets really sounds very, very optimistic to me. I would think the major obstacle is cost in any case. I'm sure it costs way more to get the ice at PPG. Someone would have to foot the bill for that, and I'm not sure if the Penguins are interested in doing that after a couple of years of revenues being battered. I do agree with the points about the kids wanting to play at PPG. I am sure most of them would want to play there even if the entire arena were empty.
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PIHL - Class A Penguins Cup
Spear and Magic Helmet replied to Pa Hockey's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
Pretty amazing to me that McDowell isn't just dominant in single A. They were a good AAA team for years and have an enrollment over 2000. Now I know the size of the school is really not that closely related to how good the team is, but this is definitely a surprise to me. -
You can read the link below, but basically it's all under one umbrella, so yes, same organization if not same owner. NA3HL is pay-to-play, but as mentioned, it is almost certainly the case that some of those fees help fund the top level. That isn't just true of the NAHL/NA3HL, I'm sure you can find many local amateur organizations that work that way as well (i.e. the lower teams help fund the top teams). That being said, some players do get exposure in the NA3HL and do move up. However, I kind of think that is just common enough to give people hope that it could happen to them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_3_Hockey_League
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WHL, OHL, and QMJHL are Major Junior A. Those players are generally not eligible for NCAA with only a few exceptions. Canada has numerous Jr A leagues that are a step below Major Jr A but are comparable to the USHL. BCHL and OJHL (or whatever the former OPJHL is called) are some examples. If you look at NCAA rosters, you'll see plenty of players from the Canadian Jr A ranks.
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2022 CHMA PLAYOFFS - ACHA Nationals
Spear and Magic Helmet replied to Pa Hockey's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
Looks like the kid is banned for life. And to reiterate my point before, not sure he would have been banned for life if there hadn't been social media. https://nypost.com/2022/02/22/usphl-junior-hockey-player-banned-for-life-after-ref-punch/ -
2022 CHMA PLAYOFFS - ACHA Nationals
Spear and Magic Helmet replied to Pa Hockey's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
Personally I think this type of behavior isn't new. I saw my share of kids acting like jerks in my time. It's a bit of a double edged sword. Yes the kids get famous, but now there's concrete evidence they are jerks and not just rumors. -
2022 CHMA PLAYOFFS - ACHA Nationals
Spear and Magic Helmet replied to Pa Hockey's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
That is terrible. Not a good look for that kid at all. -
ACHA Nationals and CHMA
Spear and Magic Helmet replied to Pa Hockey's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
With JCU winning, do they get the nationals bid or does it go to Pitt for winning the regular season? In years past, it was the regular season winner and not who won the conference playoffs. -
Question for PIHL JV Coaches.
Spear and Magic Helmet replied to Ron Shock's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
How many JV teams do have cuts?? I imagine not many. -
ACHA Nationals and CHMA
Spear and Magic Helmet replied to Pa Hockey's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
ha. I do have to say that Karen Hill is very much NOT a Karen by today's definition. You don't wanna end up like her ex-boyfriend. -
Silver sticks
Spear and Magic Helmet replied to Birddog's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
I imagine some of it is inertia. They have had Silver Sticks since the 1980s, maybe even earlier. There is probably a lot of "we never had to do that before, so why do we have to do it now?" -
They do, plus NA, Bethel, Peters, Mt. Lebanon, and a handful of others. Then you have teams at the other end who are barely able to fill out a scoresheet for their 20 PIHL games. It just seems kind of excessive I guess and definitely is something that the PIAA won't like. I suppose it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, because there are many reasons hockey won't become a sanctioned sport and this is probably a smaller issue. Also Meadville had to take a break from the PIHL for a few years because they couldn't field a team. They did end up in the B division where co-ops were allowed. I believe they have two high schools in their district and something changed where they were considered a co-op if they used players from Cochranton HS.
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Tier 2 Rankings for PAHL Teams
Spear and Magic Helmet replied to Hattrick Swayze's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey
You are right. I was being overly general. As @Danner27 mentioned Pitt, RMU and IUP are stronger than the rest of CHMA, The lower teams in there are not great. A #14 ranking for Pitt is pretty impressive actually. I hadn't noticed that before and there are some good teams below them in the rankings. Cal is perfectly happy to the the big fish in a small pond. I think that helps their recruiting as well. Cal has kids who go to school just to play hockey. I haven't seen them play in years, but they would have won the CHMA in their heyday and then probably gotten crushed at M1 nationals.