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Yeah, seems a bit expensive to be honest. 

Now it's a matter of attorneys and liability. Not a good thing. 

37 minutes ago, Danner27 said:

@fafa fohi you horse tooth jackass - direct quote here! 

House Democratic Leader Frank Dermody of Allegheny County, fell into that category. He told the Pennsylvania Capital-Star, Wolf is "our governor. He vetoed it, and I’m the Democratic leader, ... I am not going to override the governor’s veto.”

that is this guys reasoning for flipping, that is PARTY POLITICS at its finest, you know man, that thing, that thing you said that doesn’t, you know man you know what I mean pony boy something!  
 

I would like to add this quote for everyone else about 14 of the Democrats that flipped.

But those who like to venture a guess on why Kim and Schlossberg had a change of heart pointed to the fact that they were among the 14 Democrats who flipped are politically safe because they happen to be uncontested in their re-election bid this November.The Pennsylvania School Boards Association said its review of the federal court ruling leads to one conclusion: schools still have no choice but to adhere to Wolf’s limits on the size of gatherings.“Judge Stickman’s ruling does not have any effect on gathering size limits for high school athletic events, one way of the other, whether or not the ruling is stayed pending appeal, overturned or upheld,” according to a statement issued on Wednesday from PSBA’s legal team. “The judge’s ruling about the constitutionality of the governor’s gathering size limits is limited to political or other expressive activities protected by the First Amendment. There is really not a plausible case to be made that there is a First Amendment right to attend a high school football game or to have as many people attend as the team or school may want."

 

Ironic to bring up "party politics" with the Supreme Court disaster going on right now. 

6 hours ago, hockey55 said:

I also find it frustrating when PA has the same exact #s of deaths per 100,000 as Florida and South Carolina who both barely closed down. Small business owners have been completely annihilated in PA. It’s disgusting the way they have been treated. 
 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Again, the federal government should be giving them money. God knows banks, hedge funds, airlines, and big business got it. 

And $1200 to last 6+ months is a real joke from the government. That's about 6 bucks a day. But as usual, the jokes on the lower and middle classes. 

Were those deaths humans, or sacrificial lambs? How many were saved by restrictions? I bet that's a countless number, too. 

Again, the government could have and should be doing more to help those affected. Blame them for why you are where you are. Security for the people of the country is their job. 

If you were an airline, trust fund, auto manufacturer, or a bank- you would have been helped 10 times over. A small business owner or worker, and not so much. 

The whole ordeal has shown some cracks in the American armor. If you want to be blind to that, and center 100% of your dismay solely on the governor that's your right. But then don't expect things to get better. 

Maybe directing your anger at the federal government, who has remained unable- but probably more accurately unwilling- to step in and help its citizens who are in a tough spot. Lord knows there's been no problem when corporate America needs financial help. 1200 bucks to get people through six months and counting? That's unacceptable. The shutdowns are what they are, were necessary, and you can't help that. But the response has been severely lacking. 

46 minutes ago, carroll81 said:

Here's the difference, and I am not advocating that the actual numbers are justified, just explaining the difference.  It is exposure time.

In that store, no one of those 322 is next to someone for more than a minute, with the exception of the checkout, which is a few minutes.  At a sporting event, people are next to each other for up to an  hour and a half.  

Only they aren't, they can easily be 6 foot or more apart. 

The "no spectators" thing is bullshit. Most of these rinks could have 100 people in them and still be 12 foot apart. 

2 hours ago, aaaahockey said:

So a guy overdosed on sleeping pills and you are calling that a Covid death.  Wonder why some of us are skeptical about the numbers.  

Obviously because if not for covid, the pills wouldn't have killed him. On a death certificate, covid would rightfully be listed. 

6 minutes ago, BpHawk said:

What I heard - he was involved in Indian Princesses with his kids which is a father-daughter program the Y has sponsored for years. He sent a text with an offensive meme regarding Indians and somebody reported it. 

The BP board voted  him out and the Y banned him from their facilities. 

In the world of Mort, this hardly seems like his worst offense over the years but clearly being a bombastic prick has caught up with him. It's sort of like when Al Capone was finally busted for tax evasion.

On the other hand, the Y running a program that is screaming what the left calls cultural appropriation, and in turn, freaking out on Mort when they heard this seems a bit of a stretch.

Perhaps the Indians that turned him in were from Peters Township.

I honestly feel bad for his kids if they can't participate with their father anymore.

 

Without seeing the meme it's hard to say how justified it was. However, if he wasn't a jerk to begin with, an apology probably would've did the trick. 

5 hours ago, champeen said:

THIS GUY GETS IT.  100%.

Side note- Here in TX, rinks are pretty much wide open and I know of 3 teams that have had COVID outbreaks already and a 29 yr old 16UAA coach died from a drug OD trying to fight it on his own.  Got an email yesterday that one of the teams my son played against this past weekend now has positive tests.  If things continue like this, hockey will get shut down here, believe me.  When one of these kids' grandmother dies, it's going to be really sad.  So, our Republican Gov. is opening shit up and believe me, our hospitalization numbers and our daily death count are way higher than PA.   

Does that mean I think a 25 person cap, regardless of Sq Ft. is reasonable? Of course not.  You should totally fight that. My kid played this past weekend, despite the risks I'm well aware of.  But, don't assume that the legislators just have it out for you.  The reason you don't know of many cases up there is likely BECAUSE of the restrictions.  To say "nobody is even getting it, why all the rules?" is actually backwards in this case.

Well said. Also worth keeping in mind is this: while the virus is a real threat, how my family is handling it is by being very cautious. Hockey is probably not the greatest idea... but you have to decide what things are high risk/low risk, and is something worth a risk or not. But still be cautious. For sanity's sake. My son eats, sleeps, and breathes hockey. Is that worth the risk in our case? We think so. Sitting down to eat in Red Lobster? Not so much. 

4 hours ago, Quinlan2020 said:

Wow. That's a weird take. Shouldn't they vote based on what they feel is the right thing to do? Vote based what the constituents want if you're only interest is getting reelected. Unfortunately, I think that they mostly do just that.

Not weird at all. The vote of a congressman, senator, state rep, whatever is supposed to represent the will of the majority of constituents of that politician. 

For example: if there's a vote on abolishing daylight savings time... The majority of my constituents want to abolish it. I personally love it and want to keep it as is. My duty as a representative is to vote to abolish it, as my obligation is to the people I represent, not to my individual self. 

This is why it's important to contact your government representatives and make your will known. About anything important. 

When you vote, of course you keep in mind who will most likely hold the same personal opinion as you do. But in the end if these representatives are doing their job correctly, ultimately it shouldn't matter what party they are. If they don't put personal feelings aside and they vote against the interests of the people they're obligated to, how the next election goes for them works itself out. That's why it's important to vote- if the overwhelming majority voted instead of writing it off as "it doesn't matter", the country would be a lot different than what it is right now. 

It's also important that you vote, as they look at what areas have big turnout and which ones have low turnout. This oftentimes- rightfully or wrongly- determines who gets their roads paved, who gets their streetlights fixed, etc. But that's another topic. 

My point is that improvement from the disaster that is America right now will only happen  when people forget about focusing on someone kneeling for an anthem, or wasting their time focusing on whatever circus act the president committed today, and put that thought and energy into learning more about politics and civics than most politicians do, and using that to their advantage. 

1 hour ago, Novos51 said:

I guarantee you, and I have a fair share of experience in state politics, that some of the Dem representatives voted yes to assuage their voters. They are being arm twisted and promised to change their votes right now. 

It's not "arm twisting". It a representative democracy, and politicians should vote what the constituents want, not what they may personally want. Glad to see it maybe actually panning out that way. 

23 minutes ago, Danner27 said:

The Game has passed him by. He got in trouble 2-3 years ago for influencing his players not to get concision tested. 

“if you get tested you have to sit out a week, regardless of the results”. 

 

Then he should've been gone right there and then. 

How are they deciding that with no placement games?? 

50 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said:

Anybody hear of any games this weekend?  I know there were some out of town tournaments.  Too early for My Hockey Rankings.  I thought I heard that Preds played the Vengenance. Maybe 06 AAA .  Sure would be nice if Alpha got Live Barn.

Why don't they have it?? 

Thanks everyone. Complicated. 

2 hours ago, Danner27 said:

It’s a good start, but now it has to pass. The short version - this vote made it so they can vote on it. Stay on your reps, no date was given for it to reach the floor! There is a western pa man that said “NO” this round, I’m sure he will vote no again when the real vote comes up. 

So this would meet a 2/3 vote, right? 

What does it mean for hockey right now? 

Sorry I just don't understand. 

Also, if Burkle just wanted a tax shelter, how does that help... He still had to buy into the team? Any tax savings would be saved on the team, not anything else he owns. 

26 minutes ago, Danner27 said:

The penguins owner is the biggest financial contributor to the Democratic Party, the penguins use upmc for a tax shelter, that’s the only reason he helped Mario, the money was a drop in a bucket for him. David Morehouse was Bill Clinton’s right hand man. David was brought in by Burkle to get a new arena & figure out how to use youth hockey to cut the pro expenses. 

I've heard 66 is a conservative. 

5 minutes ago, Quinlan2020 said:

The people going to these established made bad choices by acting as if there was no pandemic. Nothing would be closed if they had. Everyone was asked to social distance from day one, but they went to these places and did not. It's unfortunate that these people were selfish and now the owners of these establishments are suffering. I feel sorry for these business owners, but public health was in mind with these decisions. Ask your representative for a lifeline as you're business is hurting by no fault of your own.

I don't feel sorry for any that didn't enforce the guidelines. 

2 hours ago, Eddie Shore said:

Yep, that’s what it’s all about, “partying”.  I guess you never thought of the guy who manages these places. Or the single mom I had to let go when we got closed, or the poor guy I had washing dishes, God only knows what he is doing now, probably back to dealing or most likely got busted doing it and now has no money to send his kids moms. That’s ok, cause the bars opening up was just about “partying”.

Then why weren't guidelines followed at so many places? That wasn't real responsible. 

Also, a lot of these same problems for restaurants and bars in the WW2 era. Lost tons of business. Most were able stay solvent. Why? They had money saved that covered or helped cover the huge loss of business. What has changed since then and now, that so many small businesses are unable, or uninterested, in setting enough money aside to ride a bad stretch out?

4 hours ago, dazedandconfused said:

Typical liberal speak by them. Yet when it came down to dollars and not sense, still after all these years and taxpayer dollars they have been unable to come up with a plan for what to do with the old Mellon Arena site. Why? Because it's about the $$$$$$$$$$ and not social justice. They want social change? Then they should do exactly what the people of the lower Hill District want them to do and not what's best for their wallets. Otherwise, they should STFU.

Yeah, that's turned into a pretty gross situation. That said, I always wonder where else they thought all those cars would park. 

10 hours ago, Scooby Doo said:

Yeah, and Logan Couture gets sucker punched up in Toronto for talking about how he supports Trump, then is trounced on Social Media and forced to "apologize".  Glad the Pens are out of it.  I can't take any more of this PC - social justice crap.  I've always treated everyone the same. 

We're cancelling our cable on Monday.  No need to watch any professional sports anymore.

So that's what finally did it, huh? Not domestic abuse. Not physical and sexual assaults. Not dogfighting rings. Not drug and alcohol abuse. Not cheating. Okay. So that shows what you are really mad about. Pretty pathetic. 

Canceling your cable? I bet you won't. Just like all the others who've been threatening to do it since Kaepernick first knelt.