deanyoungblood

It’s funny to me to see everyone trash the former org for whatever reason - some deservedly so - but yet many of these amateur hockey organizations continually renewed contracts with them. If PIHO was such a terrible org run by such terrible people, what does that say about the folks who continued to entrust them and pay them on behalf of their members? Just funny to me.

Well I think we know who this is…

I don’t think the Allegheny Badgers necessarily attracted the best officials. From what I’ve heard they used to have a bad reputation (parents/coaches) which caused most of the better officials to block them from their schedule. Plus it never seemed like the PAHL organizations were the priority. also I’m not sure why these orgs sought out PIHO and got fleeced to begin with. Who made those decisions on their respective boards?

Regardless of who schedules you’re still going to have basically the same pool of officials and I don’t see the rates going down. I’m sure they aren’t going to work games for less $. Not in today’s climate with a shortage and inflation at its highest in decades.

It amazes me how people come on these message boards and trash people by name while offering no solutions nor raising their hand to offer their “expertise” (because they could obviously do it better) all while hiding behind an anonymous account name. Carry on.

? this post wins

Lol exhibit A

I believe it’s part of their contract with the PIHL to conduct x number of evaluations per week. Not all are done remote, some are done in person depending on schedules because the veteran refs who probably have the ability to evaluate most likely also skate themselves, so the remote eval is a solution to that because you can watch at any time. I know there are in-person evaluators because I’ve seen them and said hello to some of them, so again, folks on here just spewing stuff that they know nothing about.

Why do organizations continue to re-up with PIHO? I think PIHL, CHMA, CHE, PPE, Esmark, have all renewed contracts several times over. Seems like PAHL teams continue to move away from independent schedulers. Allegheny, Vipers, Westmoreland, Mon Valley, North Pgh, etc. If you aren’t getting your money’s worth then what are you doing? I can tell you some of the organizations in the area that still use independent schedulers are a disaster from what I hear and see. I just don’t think there are many people who want to get involved which is why there’s value to just hiring an outside org. Just my $.02.

70% of your post is not factual.

All the pearl clutching and faux outrage on here makes me laugh. I’d be willing to bet most of you are out there every weekend in the stands yelling at amateur refs and acting like clowns. Hockey around here is in trouble. Big trouble. What the individual in question did was abhorrent. Unfortunately it’s become all too common. Especially around these parts. So it’s not even surprising anymore. Look at this thread, we have people still making excuses and defending the indefensible conduct from that Huskies game a couple years ago when we had coaches contacting refs on their personal cell phones sending clips and telling them how bad they are. I wouldn’t want to become a ref either. nor would I want to be a scheduler. Too much hockey not enough refs. Simple math equation. Sounds like you all have it figured out though. PIHO took over for independent schedulers because it wasn’t working out, so I’m not sure going back to that is the answer. Anyway, have a blessed new year!

Many of the people responding to this topic who are outraged with the abusive conduct are the same people who have been abusing officials, probably even the exact ones on this game, for years. Ironic. Hopefully this incident forces us all to take a look at ourselves and our conduct at youth sports events. Nothing more embarrassing for our kids on the ice than one of their parents making an ass of themselves in the stands. I sometimes wonder if the LiveBarn feed was pointed at the crowd how many people would be able to show the footage of themselves to their bosses at work on Monday.

You seem to have it out for the refs in this game. Did they call a penalty on your kid once or something?

Look at all the clowns on here blaming the officials. It’s no wonder we have a shortage. So the officials have to worry about the players, coaches & 100’s of fans/students too? Even when there’s paid security there? Nah. Imagine WPIAL football refs addressing the student section on Friday night lol. This is on the Armstrong parents & Belmont security. Period.

Blaming the undisciplined actions of the players, coaches & parents on the referees. Lol. ?

This guy comes on here to trash tier 2 amateur hockey referees and he wonders why they aren’t getting the best guys on their games. ? be happy anyone shows up to skate these gong shows.

I heard Wes McCauley wasn’t available to skate the game Saturday night so they had to settle for local refs.

They are probably looking for volunteers to wear the stripes if you’re interested

I heard we are operating at 60% of last year from a numbers standpoint for officials. Fortunate to even have 2 guys show up so the game can happen. Although considering this thread and the behavior of the players parents and coaches involved in this game I wouldn't blame any zebras for not showing up.