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Teams like this aren't helping the girls game as a whole. Steel City gets a 2nd team that could cause 2-3 other orgs to not have enough players to field a team at all.

They also list mixed year teams which I believe play way less games and only practice once a week, now if those teams are 4K that's a huge problem but I would guess they are at a lower cost than the birth year teams.

This is directly from the Renegades/Tier 2 Vengeance Website, so they are anticipating close to 55 games I would guess its all based on the coach and the teams commitment level as to the exact number of games that get played. Team will include top talent from the 2011 birth year Includes 6-8 summer skills sessions Includes 2 weekday practices (+weekends when available, 75-80 practice throughout season) Includes weekly workouts or yoga sessions (28-32 throughout season) Includes bi-weekly off-ice coaching sessions (20-25 throughout season) 4-5 tournaments/showcases (may require overnight travel, tournament budget included) Includes 8-12 independent games (may require overnight travel) 45 - 55 games in total Team will participate in PAHL 13U AA

This was a good explination!

No idea actually he just doesn't run the rink is all I know. Never heard a good thing about him though.

So they claim they are playing an "AAA" independent schedule but are declaring for the Tier 2 National Championship so AAA but not really I guess?

He doesn't run the entire arena he is the VP of the Tier 1 organization

One of which is no better than mid level PAHL AA team but hey why not pay 6K in tuition and probably 10K in travel when you could have stayed home and had a similar experience.

Black Bear just making things a little more difficult is all.

This is going to be interesting https://myhockeyrankings.com/news.php?b=1111

They go to the Aviators now 😂

I have heard the new system them are using to place teams isn't working very well so I won't be shocked if they are very delayed

https://www.facebook.com/groups/737357036840038/user/100091950467063/

I saw this on Facebook a couple of days ago, I was wondering if this was a Black Bear creation since they were playing at Printscape.

Aviators just steal kids from Renegades instead of having their own ADM program.

Mon Valley I believe is too

From what I've been able to gather it was mainly kids who tried out and did not make the 2011 team. I've asked multiple times who the coach is and have yet to get an answer. My son's team had 2 kids leave to play on this team so I assume it's happening and if it's not some kids are gonna be left without a team

I want no part of it but it's yet another team taking kids away from playing PAHL AA. I'll bet at the end of the season my kids PAHL AA team is better than this team.

Has anyone else here heard about the possible Esmark B team at the 2011 age? A few of the players from our 2011 team went to a skate for this team and were made offers yet they arent sure if the team is happening yet. I feel this is Black Bear at work trying to fill as much ice time as possible

I didn't stick around to see so I have no idea

They were holding tryouts for what looked to be a 16u team last night

Talk about too many teams, at the very least Esmark is fielding a B team at the 2011 age.

What does black bear taking over have anything to do with Plum hockey? If kids are progressing and getting better but not winning is that a totally terrible thing?

Where is all this ice time coming from? The organization as a whole has less than 10 hours of ice per week and they are floating 3 practices a week for AA and 2 for single A. Unless they only have 2 or 3 teams the math doesn't work unless the 3 ice slots a week are half ice with another team.

I guess you can wipe Mt. Lebo and Aviators off your list of least crazy parents ?