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LGP13

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  1. No, they are usually common knowledge before tryouts as it is one of the main deciding factors. If it isn't, then there is a huge red flag.
  2. Outscoring the next team in your bracket by 6 goals, only giving up 4 goals in 4 games and having a +17 goal differential seems okay... How'd the team that "impressed" you do?
  3. No, I helped ref adult leagues for my local rink like 15 yrs ago.
  4. I left an email with PGM off Alpha's site. They handled the scheduling. I emailed the officiating director for MidAm. And I called and left a message officiating advancement director for USA Hockey. Probably won't get anywhere, but worth a shot.
  5. I have ref'd for like 4-5 years. Don't do anymore because I coach and my job pays me enough I don't need the 60$ spending money. I don't care if I lost anyone or not. I'm making people aware. Also, I came here asking questions about standards and what the procedures are for quality control. Now that I've debunked your assumptions, now what? I was being respectful, you won't know that though because the next excuse will be that you can't hear what is being said when I ask for explainations. Your just a troll and mad I called out one of your fellow officials for being a shitty ref. I get it, you don't want that to be the norm. Next thing you know everyone is on here blasting every officials' name. I understand your frustration and how you want to be defensive, bottom line is treat people with respect and don't just show up to collect your 75$, maybe explain to kids why calls are made or what you saw. Basically, don't be an elitist jerkoff because you have the power to make calls and throw people out. I'm done with replying here as I found the information I was looking for. Have a great day!
  6. I responded like this or ignored your post because it serves no purpose. My post has questions and facts that happened. Every word of your post is false or an assumption, why waste my time defending myself because you are butthurt that I called out a ref for having a bad game? I don't know about you, but at my job I have to answer to someone if I don't perform or do my job to my company's standards.
  7. What are the standards that referees are held to? I agree that most of the time refs are just doing their job and allowing the kids to enjoy playing the game they love to play. I also agree with (for the most part) refs could really careless who wins and loses and they don't go into games thinking positively or negatively about the teams. I am however curious as to what standards they are held to? They have the power to throw players, fans, coaches out of games that people are paying money to attend or provide to their kids. What about when the refs are terrible? Nothing? Deal with it? I had one of the worst refs referee my game. Missed calls, weak calls against, goal called that clearly hit the post (overwrote the other ref and made the call from center ice), and yes I got thrown out for arguing the calls after dealing with it for 2 periods. It is humorous because I knew this ref was going to be terrible because he ref'd adult league games back when I played and was terrible at them as well. Now all the info gave above, I would like to know how a guy that seemly likes to get his rocks off on agitating young kids instead of talking to them and explaining infractions. Is power hungry about the fact he can throw people out and affect games instead of just ref'ing them fairly, and now seemly has the ability to keep coaches from coaching their teams is allowed to just be his word is law with no recourse? Normally, I laugh at posts like this and write them off, but I felt like I owed everyone to get it out there.
  8. I agree, but what ice costs and what organizations charge for season tuition are two different things. That was more what I was referring to with my comments.
  9. I'm glad to hear they said things will remain intact for the SCIR teams. I'm hoping that things stay unchanged for the teams and your fees don't increase.
  10. Weird, I couldn't find anywhere on their press release where it says SCIR is going from non-profit to for profit Vengeance. So, 1 Logo, no other (PAHL) organizations to split ice time with, assuming increased fees. What are the positives of this move? I understand SCIR probably had to do it or they wouldn't have a place to play for their teams, but from the outside looking in, it looks like a dirty move by Vengeance to make more money with no upside for the teams forced to rebrand?
  11. The "parent coach" discussion always makes me laugh... don't get me wrong there are also parent coaches out there that know very little about the game and just are trying to help, but it's like someone that is good at hockey, knows how to coach, cares about the kids, has considerable hockey knowledge is all of a sudden null and void once they have a kid?! I get it, everyone is worried that kids will be treated "unfairly", "favored", etc. if a parent is behind the bench. If anything, I probably gave/give my kids less leniency when I coached them. I know that isn't always the case, but nothing ever is. So "parent coach", "non-parent coach", who gives a shit. Can the guy/girl coach and treat all the players accordingly? That's all that should matter.
  12. Great games this season, both of the girls on the team are great players. Best of luck with your future opportunities.
  13. I'm sure @Jkersman01 would love to get you that information to corroborate the validity of their claims.
  14. I didn't check his birth certificate. A significantly smaller sized kid was trying to break up 3 larger sized kids beating on another kid. Better?
  15. I think defending bad behavior and pointing out that what an anonymous person said on a public forum "might" be skewed to their PoV are two different things. Especially when they are a parent from the other side. I am a parent, and I wasn't at the game that we lost so I can't speak to any claims there. But I was at the game where a player from Mt. Lebo engaged with parents in front of his coach and they did nothing. A 12-year-old kid, yelling obscenities at parents that are spectating the game... I was also at the game were said kid again engaged parents in the stands after a loss and still nothing. Again, not defending the behavior of the parents yelling back at the kid, better to just ignore and laugh like I did. What control does a coach have over his team and players that he lets them engage with spectators? As far as the parents getting thrown out on two occasions, I wasn't at the game that was a loss, so I don't know what happened. The 2nd game, a parent of a kid who repeatedly got punched in the face by 3 players until he was visibly bleeding (see it from the stands) while a 10-year-old ref tried to get three 12-year-olds off him... Ya, you might have to throw me out of that game too if it was my kid getting punched in the face. Again, victim mentality. We did nothing wrong and the parents were savages!!!!
  16. Holy victim mentality... guess you shouldn't expect anything less from Mt. Lebo. Sorry you couldn't buy your wins.
  17. I have been taking my son to the tryouts every year regardless of the outcome. He too, pushes for PPE every year. It is good for kids to have goals and try to achieve them if they make it or not. So, from a development of a player/person standpoint you are teaching your kid to make goals and work toward them even if you never achieve them, it instills the work ethic to strive for something. This of course, is if it is in fact your kid asking to tryout and it is HIS goal to make the team. From a logical standpoint, I also have no qualms doing it every year because it is roughly 50$ an ice slot against the "best" kids in the area. It gives my kid a measuring stick, is a reasonability priced ice session with and against high skilled players, and if nothing else gives him a leg up for the next tryout he does for whichever team he ends up making it on. Win/win/win/win. for $170? I'll do that every time. Edit: Spelling
  18. I don't believe they have a contract in place yet for ice at Alpha. This flyer is just for tryouts which they secured ice to perform at Alpha. I feel for the Vipers and their situation, but if they don't have a "home" yet and are holding tryouts somewhere that might not be where they play out of, that's pretty misleading and unscrupulous. They should note on their tryout flyer that Alpha is where they are holding tryouts, but practices and home rink might be in Belmont or some other non-BB rink that they haven't secured yet.
  19. I've refrained from responding to this nonsense, but since it is gaining traction, I felt like I'd add my 2 cents. This is criminal all the way around. First there are people who are taking advantage of parents who don't know any better, and then there are parents who actually think that full ice mites are a great idea and support this travesty. USA hockey revamped the way they train and grow our youth. If anyone is a coach, they have seen the CEP classes that basically explain how USA sucked at development, so they paid experts to examine Canada, Sweden, Russia, all the other great hockey countries and see what they were doing differently than us. It comes down to the size of the rink/nets and play surface, which effects the puck touches and development of the kids. Full ice minimizes the amount of puck touches the kids get per game/practice, which in turn slows or hinders their development. Basically, have small kids on a huge playing surface that takes the "game" out of the game. I won't even go down the path of goalies and having 3-foot players in a 4x6 net. I feel like most everyone in here is on the same page with this and understand why full ice mites isn't optimal at all. The people that are selling this "product" should be ashamed of themselves and the parents that think it is a great idea to "make their kid better" deserve what they are getting. Overpriced experience, with less development, and absolutely no upside.
  20. Yes, but what would be PIHL's angle? What or why could they possibly want to screw Montour out of playing in the playoffs? They really have no reason to DQ Montour unless they believe that the rules of their organization that all these teams play in weren't followed, and the only reason they would do that is to protect the other teams/kids that play in their organization from getting cheated somehow. All this said I do feel bad for the kids at Montour. Adults ruining it for kids... Apparently, they have a strong team. Would they still have to of had to move up a division to AA if all the paperwork was correct and the kid was approved to play? Curious how they would have done playing all season up a division if they had to. If they wouldn't have had to and could have stayed at A with the kid on the team and the only issue here is the paperwork that wasn't properly done... then wow. Really feel bad for the kids.
  21. I assumed, from everyone saying he played at Esmark. My mistake. Most of what I said is still relevant.
  22. At younger ages kids are still developing, actually probably even past 14U. They most likely quit because they have a solid idea of who will be on the team at that point. At younger ages you can still keep parents (money) roped into the organization to sell the dream. As they get older and parents start to catch on they understand you need to try elsewhere if you aren't on the gold team. If PPE continued to field a black team it would probably be full of "lesser talented" kids and not yield the ratings and persona to continue the business model.
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