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Black Bear Team. https://youngstownphantoms.com/sports/2022/8/17/ownership.aspx

Lol, that team still wasn't the worst in the country that year somehow. That 05 team averaged .745 goals per game and 8.3 against. The 09 Vengeance may have a chance at breaking that record with .5 goals per game and 11.3 against.

I am surprised that Black Bear doesn't charge you to get into games, pay to park or to fill up your water bottle. Maybe next year!

https://www.tier1hockeyfederation.com/gamecenter/ USHL https://ushl.com/news/2024/8/15/top-story-Fall-Classic-2024.aspx

Shattuck has 0 teams playing in the USHL tournament and BK has 1. Didn't 1 of those "powerhouses" BARELY beat (2-0 with an empty net goal) 1 of those THF teams that are slower and not as fluid as a team last year in the Midam Championship. If you think all these parents are delusional then why tell them to go watch games that their kids most likely don't have a chance of playing in. You really are Dazed and Confused.

If your team can't go HALF the season with a 2 & 10 then you should get rid of your coach because he isn't doing his job. Stop blaming the refs for sh*tty hockey being played. The reason PIHL is not good and a lot of AAA teams don't want their kids playing it is because of the garbage hockey from the PAHL teams players that don't know how to play right. You should have a hearing after 2 or 3 2&10's not 5. Stop blaming the refs because your organization/coach/kid and even parents have a reputation for being dirty. There is a reason for that. I've seen multiple AAA teams play 60+ games in a season and not come close to 10 2&10's (none over 5) and you guys are mad at 10 over 20 games. 🤦‍♂️

This happens at a lot of organizations at all levels. If your kid is good or they really want you they will roll out the red carpet. I know kids personally that didn't tryout for a team and paid $00.00 in team fees all because they were the best players on said team. Only expense was jerseys and bags as they came from a private company.

Gene 1 (09) and Gene 2(08)?

More than ever, some teams are doing 2,3 and even 4 times a year now.

Money grab, those birth years don't even get looked at for another 2-3yrs.

Serious question, what is going on with all of these 09 teams folding or not having enough kids? It's not a deep birth year as it is but reading everything on here it's anywhere from 2-4 full teams folding. There is no way that many parents are okay with their superstars playing on a mixed team.

Don't forget the Tea bagging incident in the early 2000's. That kid got PAID, blew it on drugs but paid none the less. Just happened to have happen to a local funeral home owners kid.

They are the 6th ranked Catholic School in the area. Add those public schools and it drops them even lower. Hey at least it's not in Troy Hill anymore.

Didn't they kick out all of the Boys Black feeder teams to build their girls program up? Would you be happy paying all that money to play half your schedule against A/AA teams. That's not very "Elite".

Strongly suggested or your roster spot may be up for grabs💪🏻💪🏻, lol.

Slapped some paint on the walls and moved some things around.

Most of the kids are friends and have played with/against each other since they were 5 or 6 years old. I don't need anymore data, multiple people have backed my statements while you still drink the PPE Kool Aid (PPE or NOTHING). Kids don't suck that don't play for Pens, that's all.

Even the 07 lost to Esmark this year in the regular season. The biggest problem is the parents when it comes to this.

Yep, because those 2 Pittsburgh kids you lost to yesterday sure do suck or maybe the one at Shattuck or even the goalie on Gilmours prep team that beat the 18u Pens this year or the 3 that were at BK this year. Just naming a few. 4 of them left Pens on their own and the other 3 never wanted to play there even though they were asked to every year. Those 2 goalies alone makes my leftovers team better. But it's Pens Elite or NOTHING arrrrrrrrg!

Not one!

Safe Travels!

That Vengeance team that beat the Pens was a bunch of PPE castoffs then they lost to them 2 out of 3 and begged those kids to come back. Another it's PPE or nothing dad. How's the Kool aid? Every kid that isn't on Pens is AA now👍🏻🤣. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

Good win today, the PK was on point. I have you pegged down to 2 parents and 1 we are friends, the other ahh his wife slept with another dad on a previous Pens team they played on but they played it off as "just friends".

How does that shut my theory up that all the best kids DON'T have to play at Pens? They BARELY beat the 60th ranked team to make it to nationals. The game before that they were losing to the same team that wasn't even trying because they already earned a spot in the championship where the Pens didn't because they went to OT with the 35th ranked team and lost a point. If you took the leftovers from Pens just in Pittsburgh not even Midams I guarantee the leftovers would win. Also all those kids did not EARN those spots. The 3 imports never tried out and walked right on. The 1 forward has been guaranteed a spot because his daddy cop got a higher up in the organizations brother off on drug charges, 1 defensemans daddy has coached/taught classes since day 1 and he was on the black team for years, another defensemans parents just have a ton of money to throw around, another forwards parents billet to keep their kid on the team. They got lucky that Vengo team imploded and picked up some of their kids. You can preach local kids but just like last year their 2 best kid are leaving and they will bring in 2 more to run that team because they don't have depth. 3 of the top 4 scorers are either imports or from out of town. All the "local" kids are on the 3rd and 4rh line behind the imports and out of towers except for 2.