Looking at MyHockeyRankings, it looks like the 08 elite have played a lot tougher competition, on average, than the Vengeance 08 and are only 1 removed from each other on the rankings. I think they need to play more to sort out which is better for the season. It does make a good point that a) they should play each other and b) just think if you combined the top half of both teams how good they might be.