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My son plays college AAU D3 at a rink that has a black bear junior league. Live Barn has been shut off and my sons team need to send them games weekly to be loaded into their black bear tv site. This is the only black bear TV rink they play out of (their home rink) the rink was forced to move to Black Bear and they can't have any other live stream, not even their college live streaming it w/announcers.  So kids lost their "internships" working for the club team. I reached out to Black bear TV and asked if they would. Minimally broadcast the club college games for free, to give back to the youth families who have paid them for years, their response "we are a paid streaming service". They are killing hockey and can't even take a suggestion to give them a little positive PR as they are being torn apart on social media. They only want money and have no interest in growing or supporting the sport. 

24 minutes ago, aaaahockey said:

Seeing as SV won 10-0 tonight they must have done something right.  

They played Butler, not sure that is any argument worth having. TN beat Chattanooga 69-3, that was a shocker 🤣

48 minutes ago, Icebucket said:

You can believe what you want.  I'm not going off of rumor here.

Lol, love to know the possibly one disgruntled board member you know, or which one you were.  I'm speaking from being in the room for 6 years, were you in the room?  If so, you were the minority cause your little johnny didn't get what you wanted. Sit down and until you tell me you were in the room, you are going off of rumors. 

48 minutes ago, Icebucket said:

SV board had been working to get rid of Raco for years.

Incorrect. 

23 minutes ago, aaaahockey said:

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Coach Raco, who coached SV for years, was fired and replaced by his assistant coach (behind his back action from the assistant coach). Coach Raco is now at CC. #GoCentral 

3 hours ago, aaaahockey said:

I wondered the same.  Didn't see anything on their website. 

They commented this on PIHLs post, so my guess is they will broadcast starting during the QF's 

"Good luck to all of the teams ! We will see you all in the quarterfinals !" 

2 hours ago, Rewster said:

Canon Mac won the PIHL AAA regular season championship in 2021; and won the Penguins Cup AAA in 2015. Unfortunately, they have been unable to sustain the numbers and consistency since then at the AAA level.

Its difficult to determine who moves up and down in divisions because the talent and participation fluctuates rapidly from year to year.

I have only heard 2nd hand, but @dazedandconfused may be onto something, as I have not heard anything positive about their board. A board not only kills coaches, it kills families who are affected by a corrupt board. 

1 hour ago, Paul Baxter said:

@Pa Hockey did you miss this ???? 

 

 

 

Minimally charge for the horrid formatting. 

4 hours ago, aaaahockey said:

Oh maybe they should have moved down then 😂

 

And yes - Franklin Regional is going to be rough.  

I mean Central Catholic was 10-9-1 last year, 14-5-1 in 2022-23 season and 9-9 in 2021-22 season. Not sure that constitutes moving down. (And no, I don't have any ties to Central Catholic) 

12 minutes ago, aaaahockey said:

Will add to that Central Catholic moving up confuses me a bit unless they added a lot of new players. The teams that moved down to AA were bottom dwellers and needed to move.  Overall very good. 

????  Moving up? They have been in AAA. Where did they move up to?

1 hour ago, hockeyisgreat said:

Did you have that experience with Yuri?  Did your kid not make the team or get cut after the teams were set?  16U &18U are big boy hockey.  Esmark is in it to win it.  Want the 18 best players they can find!

Nope. But nice try to jump to that common response. So elementary.

Would never drive out to that rink, nor would my kid have wanted to play there. But it certainly happened to a lot of his friends due to their  delusional parents. 

1 hour ago, nemesis8679 said:

Money grab. If a USHL team is interested in a player, you would know before getting an email invite. But, if a player wants to go for the experience or the training and you have the money, there's no harm in it. 

Personally, I would use the money for local private/small group coaching. 

Agree. Pretty much goes to the entire USA hockey email data base. It's a revenue stream.  But if ya wanna spend the money for the camp and travel, nothing is a bad experience (except for paying for Yuri lessons in promises of making a team and being cut 🤣)

2 hours ago, Otis said:

I hope the young lady will be comfortable with all that attention. She may feel a lot of pressure and feel like she's under a microscope. The intentions are sincere, but it may be risky not knowing her personality/wishes. Sometimes a victim of an assault needs some space. Many don't come forward for a long time. I haven't seen any evidence that anyone posting here or anywhere else has offered anything but good intentions, but I wouldn't be sure that this will work out as well as we hope.

I assure you that Mars was contacted and a conversation was had.  A lot of players know and play with her. A lot of players know players on the Mars team and the coach. ALL PIHL coaches know each other and most board members. These players play together outside of PIHL weekly. The implication of ill intensions is head scratching. 

BTW...You realize they moved the event to a larger venue as teams and players are coming from all over. It's on Yahoo news, TMZ and an Olympian tweeted about it. 

32 minutes ago, Lifelongbender said:

The next Mars game is Monday, November 8, at 8:00 PM, at Lemieux. PIHL is expecting a LARGE turnout supporting the Mars goalie, so they moved it from Baierl to Lemieux to accommodate the crowd. It would be amazing for a huge crowd to show up for this game, to support the goalie, but also to make a statement that the sort of behavior that occurred at Belmont is not accepted by the Pittsburgh area hockey community, and also that this sort of thing will not be tolerated. Several of the local 12U and 14U girls teams are planning to attend the game as a team.

Good on PIHL and the rinks for making this change in support of the player.

I hear that Seneca Valley, North Allegheny and Pine Richland Varsity teams will all be there to show their support as well as show the community that hockey is for everyone and the events at the Armstrong game are not tolerated nor acceptable to other teams/players/coaches/fans in our area. 

1 hour ago, 3 Boys said:

No, don't fit that scenario at all, especially when you have texts from the head coach at the end of the season praising your son and his play.  Sounds like you are might be one of the ones whose involved in the political end there which is fine.  People know the truth.  

I'd believe you pulling a rabbit out of a hat more than what you post on this board. 

And you are accurate. People know the truth. Unfortunately you appear to not be one of them.  Head back to Facebook for your rants.  And to quote some youth baseball coach in Pittsburgh who I can't remember his name, but will never forget his quote  "you can't cross a bridge if you burn it down...and by the way, fire spreads"

23 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said:

You must obviously have a connection to Icemen to launch such a personal attack on someone.  Why don't you attack all the people that comment about PPE, Preds, Esmark etc.  Forums are for opinions and last I checked this was a free country. Personally I value what I hear on this forum but also take it with a grain of salt knowing that a lot of people might have had some of what they consider bad experiences where their kids played in the past.  Just my opinion for the nothing that it is worth.

Read 3 boys other comments in the past 2 months and then comment. All 3 boys does is personally attack, and frankly sounds like a discounted pens elite spring team 10u parent (yes, read into the sarcasm of spring team pens elite)

Fun fact. Parents factor into all sports and kids making teams. 3 boys should pull out a mirror. If a player is not going to make an expadential difference vs a player whose parents don't cause issues (text coach during game complaining, attacks them at the rink yelling, insults other kids in the stands, leaves the rink in a frenzy if his kid isn't on the ice when THEY think they should be, coaches their kid and tells them to do the opposite of an actual coach, hence hurting the team), the player will be looking for a new home all to no fault of their own. Sounds like 3 boys fits that scenario. And their player is old enough to know it.

It comes down to, 3 boys is a prime example of why this sport is a shit show. Let your kid be a kid, let your kid play the sport they love without interfering, without causing a ruckus at every turn, let them learn life lessons and consequences of their decisions and just enjoy  watching them play before it's too late and you are an empty nester coming to this board to cause drama to give yourself something to do in your free time. 

51 minutes ago, 3 Boys said:

What? The Icemen U18 team will again be in the bottom 10% of the rankings.  The goalie is not outstanding, I would say he is solid.  The younger goalie is solid as well.  Neither are outstanding.  Both U16 and U18 teams last year finished in the bottom 5%, maybe 10% of the rankings so not sure what would make you think they will be better this year.  Some of the forwards are not bad, most of them small size but can move.  Defense is pretty bad. They took 4 of the defensemen that were on the U16 team last year, 2 of which were horrible, one has great skill/hockey IQ and is super tough but lacks quickness and speed. The problem they are going to have when playing any AAA team ranked higher than 80 will not being able to keep up with the skating.   Though with the addition of the new head coach from Slippery Rock may help some.  Just not enough, this is a game of speed at the higher levels and the Icemen don't have that where they need it.

Reading through your post, it appears like your hatred for Icemen is personal.  And being that we know one of your boys played for them, it is clearly personal. When someone has that much hate for anything, and spends that much time bitching/talking/posting about it, it is because they feel like they have been wronged.  Maybe you should find something else to make you happy? Maybe some hockey dad therapy?  Maybe focus on something that doesn't make you such a nasty human? No need to at me or respond as that would just validate my hypothesis.  And reading through your other post - they are not factual.  Seriously, you are a grown ass man who clearly is lacking something in your life oh, and arguable - you know nothing about the sport either based on your breakdowns of players.  But keep on dad coaching from the sidelines, I'm sure actual coaches trying to teach players the correct way to play love your input...SMH  

On 6/29/2021 at 10:32 PM, NPGH Director of Hockey said:

That's correct

@sadday4hockey I'm following you. That year they had the varsity "tournament team"  All kids left NP who played NA hockey that year. I believe it was 2018-19 season maybe? I remember that season and the talks around NA doing the hybrid PIHL/Tourney team and why players left amateur teams. So your statement appears accurate. 

On 5/31/2021 at 6:08 PM, dazedandconfused said:

It appears as though though the same fate as Esmark 06 may have befell the Icemen 05 group. Last week there was a roster on the website and then...... there wasn't

That is a large assumption on your part and 100% inaccurate. 

2 hours ago, fafa fohi said:

Not wanting to turn this into a political discussion, but facts are facts.

Check out 2018 results from the 17th Congressional district which Conor Lamb won, US Senate and Governor.  This includes Pine, Warrendale, Wexford and Franklin Park districts that voted heavy on the Democratic side.  For the 2016 General, Hillary won by 16%.

https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/pennsylvania/

https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/pennsylvania/

Dude. Read what I wrote. I'm not sure people living around the rink who don't even know there is a rink there have any influence in what a rink does. You need to find another hobby vs this board.   

11 hours ago, fafa fohi said:

That may be true, however Baierl and Neville are located in communities that are “Democrat central” yet those rinks are open with 5/5, full benches and spectators.

My point is he makes it political when it fits his agenda, and I find it comical him and others not acknowledging what Wolf did in reversing his position when all Benji-Danner did was bash him on this and other threads for months.  

Baierl, Democrat central... Um, not so much. 

12 minutes ago, fafa fohi said:

“That community is Democrat central, I would not be surprised.”........So effing what, Benji?  You keep up with the political bullshit only when it’s convenient for you.  The sport is moving forward here in PA and not a word from you on Wolfie changing his position on inside gatherings?  The last time I checked, things look back to normal for youth hockey, but contrary to your constant ramblings that nothing would start until November or worse, next year.  Could it be you were wrong yet again?    

And I quote - “Expect info from PIHL at the end of October.”

Tell that to the PIHL teams that played 5 on 5 this evening with full benches and spectators.  

I cant believe I'm defending @Danner27 right now. But his statement has merritt...pihl did in fact play 5v5....but if your team played at lebo, no fans were inside watching vs other rinks where fans were watching. So his post has some merit. 

Please note: I'm not starting a political argument with you....Or any argument and won't. Just stating a fact that mt lebo does not permit fans which other rinks do, so his post is not off the wall crazy based on what we all have witnessed in pa over the last few months....

14 minutes ago, fafa fohi said:

@TourneyGuy Can you verify season fee cost of $4,800 is for each player or for an entire team.......

I can verify that, that is the team fee. 

32 minutes ago, nemesis8679 said:

If that's the case, I would have signed my kid up in a second. Is this per team, not player? Also would have pushed the board to go in this direction. Is this being marketed well? How are we only hearing about it now, shortly before it starts? I can't see people NOT wanting this if that's really the case. I'm paying between $1000 and $2000 right now for a middle school team, which is per player. 

Although I'd bet the biggest obstacle would be the schools with jv/v teams in pihl not wanting to upset pihl. 

This is basically replacing PIHL games for MS teams who can't make a pihl roster due to the 25% rule. The cost for their games is less than PIHLs assessed fees (roughly $800).  This is most likely due to not playing at rinks who may have higher ice fees (lmx for example) However, you need to realize these teams still practice and are part of their school associations (just not playing PIHL) and that ice is paid by their associations, so in reality it's about the same cost/player as they would be paying if playing in PIHL. 

3 minutes ago, Quinlan2020 said:

The closures in the Spring were justified. It saved us from having more catastrophic results. We all saw what happened in Bergamo, Italy & Madrid, Spain. The fools that deem them unconstitutional do not acknowledge that. That being said, It is not practical to go back to such measures. It's obvious that the medical advances have made Covid-19 more tolerable and more people are masking now. The economy is already open despite what some say. Yes, there still restrictions, but they are much more relaxed now and enforcement hasn't been very aggressive. A lot of people want them all to go away like someone turning a switch. The phased approach is much more practical, so that the effects can be seen before progressing to the next step. We just started opening schools/colleges, indoor dining and high school sports are kicking into full swing. There are even some fans allowed at events now. I anticipate more restrictions being lifted if things don't go sour. Have a little patience. I think will get to the place we all want to be a lot quicker if we just do things methodically.

So what is the next phase after green? oh, there is not one.  So we just sit and wait until wolfey dictates (I'm sorry, his unexperienced staff decides) that we can have more than 25 people in an ice hockey rink which is 200- by 85-feet: that's 17,000 square feet of space just in the playing surface, with the overall averaging 25,000 Square feet.....But no, he has no plans, he has no road map, he has nothing.....