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This site tracks all the NCAA D1 commits up to the 2022-23 season. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/recruits/list/Arizona-State/62 Arizona was the last team I clicked on - use the recruit tab on the right and select a team. currently there are 8 western pa players committed to ncaa d1 programs up to the 2022-23 season. It’s likely I missed someone, maybe not. Of these 8 players - One is the son of the guy that runs the pro team here. We all know this bs story. (PPE) Cooley who is considered one of the top 2004 BY prospects in all of NA (PPE) dowiak left western pa started at (PPE) very high end player. HaD the opportunity to place lacrosse. servagno into the ushl at 17 schade Is considered a top 2003 BY D prospect (PPE) pichora (goalie) started out in the USHL. Bounced around to the NAHL then finally the NCDC. See the likely outcome posted by someone else above. Hopefully he’s the exception being he’s a goalie not a forward or d. three of these 8 are committed to PSU. I haven’t looked it up, just memory alone I think 5 of the 8 are in the USHL, all came from PPE. All 8 spent time in the USHL. That’s it from western pa for the next 2 seasons so far.

This is the chart I had from 19-20. Glen Heffran tracks it. It hasn’t changed much at all. If you were to look up the few players that came from ncdc you will find out a good amount of them only spent a little time in the ncdc - making the ncdc number lower than it already is. If nothing has changed, that’s the way the data was a few years ago congrats to your kid! The point being made around here - it’s highly unlikely for a player to make it to ncaa d1. Your chance of hitting the powerball is probably higher.

Well said! I agree with a lot of what you said outside of NCAA D3. The majority of ncaa d3 is on par with good acha hockey. Yes, as you pointed out (as did I) powerhouse schools such as Adrian are a different story. Talking about the “scummy” people running the ncdc - take a look how hard it is for a kid to transfer out to another league - serious financial penalties to pay to the usphl.

Ok - previous Nahl team, as I said above for whatever reason (I did not know) lost their nahl franchise. so they sold it & started again under the usphl.

Not sure if we are understanding each other. Checking years back began in PW. USAH moved it to bantam. Most of this reason was participation drops when hitting starts. When enrollment drops USAH loses revenue.

Not sure if we are understanding each other. Checking years back began in PW. USAH moved it to bantam. Most of this reason was participation drops when hitting starts. When enrollment drops USAH loses revenue.

Thus, the reason he quit years back. He’s far from a hypocrite. He knew what was going on, moved on with life. This is the guy that told me when checking was moved to Bantam it was a pure money decision. Usa hockey enrollments drop when the hitting starts.

I should add - when talking to a friend who once worked for usa hockey (in Denver) we were talking junior hockey. He made this comment. “hockey is the first sport to figure out how to keep making money off kids once they age out of youth. Keep selling the dream until they are 21”. he’s damn right.

I believe Colgate is part of the CHF.

We found the everyone gets a trophy person ? it is what it is. There are probably 10-20 other players that deserved to be in the stellar 6.

Looking at this meadville player - 33 goals in 2A is impressive. I would have included him in this list. I’m sure politics, etc has a little input *cough* FR ?

There is a reason why four of these kids are from 3A & two are from 2A. The hockey is a different level in those classes. teams are deeper in these classes. Sure, there are some good players scattered around 1A & B - but the competition is not the same. That kid that puts up 25 goals in B is not going to come close to that in 3A or 2A. It’s just the reality.

100% - that 10-20k a year playing BS tier 3 juniors can go towards college. If your child doesn’t have a legit shot at ncaa d1 hockey. Stop the madness. Don’t take away their youth living away from home. Don’t make them a 20-21 year old college freshman. Goto school, play acha. The majority of the NCAA D1 players are done after college.

NCAA D2 or ACHA D2(M2) ? ncaa d2 is all but gone. It was implemented back in the day to try and follow the way the NCAA tiers it’s sports but never caught on.

Sure tons of kids go right to the acha. You don’t have to play junior hockey. Just look up all the western pa college teams, take a look where the kids came from. You’ll find a big mix of HS, PAHL, AAA & tier 3 juniors. those top 10 powerhouse acha programs - different story. I agree with @Pa Hockey for the second time on here - a lot of the acha teams are on par, in some cases better then the majority of NCAA D3 teams. NCAA D3 is completely different discussion for another day but the short of it - just look at the school’s that have it. Sure you have Adrian along with some of the well known power house type programs that are legit. the majority just use the team and the label to get people to pay to goto their colleges. Think of ncaa d3 the way we think of AAA hockey. A lot of “faux” teams! For every legit team there are 10 faux teams. Instead of parents paying for the the extra A status, they are paying for the NCAA Status.

Going to main camp - does not mean they are on the teams, or will make the teams. Being drafted, tendered etc is ultimately just an invite to the real main camp, not the money making regional stuff. Just look over all the drafts & tenders from esmark for the past few years. 90% never made it. PPE has a little bit better success rate. as for the NCDC - a lot of coaches, scouts etc look at it like tier 2.5 - it’s better than most of the tier 3 leagues but somewhat on par with the EHL tier 3. Like tier 2, you don’t pay to pay (but there are some fees associated with all levels of junior hockey). The ncdc does not send many kids to NCAA d1, it’s very rare. The ones that do make it to ncaa d1 that the usphl tries to say “he played in the ncdc!” Usually just had a quick stop there for a few games or a season before moving up to another league. I had a chart from the 19-20 NCAA season that showed where every freshman came from. The ncdc was at the bottom, a very distant bottom. It was negligible. I actually know a young man who played a season in the ncdc moved down to the EHL (top tier 3 league) on purpose to make his path to ncaa d3. like the usphl premier, na3hl, most of the ehl - most ncdc kids end up in the acha as 20-21-22 year old college freshman.

4 3A 2 2A

Yes it’s a previous NAHL team. 19-20 was their last season. They also had 16 & 18’s AAA back then. it’s the same club, lost their NAHL status for whatever reason and turned to the USPHL.

Previous NAHL team. I wouldn’t think anyone is “signed” to play there yet under the ncdc. They won’t pick a team until camp is over.

Jesus not this clay shell crap again - he won because of two players - we’ve been through this in another thread. He’s also a complete narcissistic douche bag. Look at his Twitter from a few months ago if he hasn’t delete stuff.

Yuri has never been the head coach of U15. He will do skill development & practices with the team. He will always serve as the defensive assistant for games when it works out. He does the same for U18 Yuri’s team is always U16. I can’t imagine they wouldn’t have a U16 team but I get further out of the loop as time passes.

Geez - armstrong 18’s getting hammered. -11 goals differential. Worst up there. Guess there was a reason they are playing down to 2A.

If that’s the case, I can see it. I didn’t think much about the other classes after M1 until I watched some of nationals this year. The acha website seemed more update for M1. More info on M1 teams.

Sort of follows my point the acha is all over the place. maybe Michigan had a bad game, Injuries etc. You can probably find the m3 championship game on a replay.