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Then you know the ONLY 3 there actually are. That is out of a roster of 19 or 20 I believe. Hardly “half”.

So you were faced with the demonstration that your “facts” were wrong and your rebuttal is a personal attack? LOL.... If you want to debate what the impact of the Excel Program is on NC, then let’s do so with the actual facts about who plays on what. You argued that NC hockey wouldn’t exist without the EXCEL program because “over half” of the NC varsity players are in the Excel program. That is incorrect...the number is four....not 11+ it would take to be “over half”. so....is it reasonable then to suggest that NC Varsity hockey would not exist because 4 players are on Excel? Probably not. You are obviously not a fan of North Catholic for whatever reason...so not sure why any of this matters to you anyways.

Well that might mean that I have access to some actual facts. But don’t take my word for it. You said there were TWO 18U Esmark players on NC. I said there was one. Anyone can go look at the roster of BOTH teams and see that there is only ONE as I said. Facts are stubborn things. As for the 4 Excel kids...that can easily be confirmed by anyone by asking someone within the program. It’s not hard.

The unfortunate part, the average consumer is not educated. the main reason NC has any hockey players is to try and get a leg up for PPE. They are all their for that reason. The ones that say they are not are the ones who’s kids did not or could not make PPE. This year they have separated PPE players for EXCEL / NC in the looker rooms even though they all go out on the ice together. Yes segregation lmao! Part of the reason was to keep what the ppe kids do on the down low. (remember a very highly recruited 03 smoking pot last year and the locker room fight ?) now this topic will soon be removed.

Where did I say the kid I referred to quit travel hockey as a senior? Thanks.

It’s not about having 18-20 AAA players....no team has that. And given that PPE does not allow its players to play PIHL...the PIHL high school program is doing just fine. And NC’s slotting in A is simply a function of PIHL’s system...if NC had 20 AAA players it would STILL be “A”. And it is not hard to argue that they are playing at a AA level given their record and could probably be competitive with a few AAA teams. There is so little overlap right now between Excel the NC PIHL team and both are doing fine. It will be interesting to see if the PPE 18U prep allows its players to play in PIHL at the same time like Esmark does.

I agree. The kids at Excel and on the Prep team will only be students at North Catholic due to their arrangement with the PPE. These kids never had any intention of playing on a PIHL team. There are other kids who attend North Catholic who want to play hockey. Thus, North Catholic has PIHL teams.

By that logic, Excel should have sent the school team down the tubes from the get go...it didn’t. It’s growing.

... has its own swag now?

The reason why these teams exist is because local kids used to be able to make pens.Now after U12 they cut all the locals and have kids from all over the place move to play