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Regarding scoring/PAHL scoresheets/etc. I was a long-time manager mostly at the AA and AAA level. I didn't care which team was which, I tried to be as accurate as possible both ways with the stats. What I found most of the time is the refs were lazy and would only give me 1 assist most of the time, even though I knew (easily) who had the second assist (for both teams)... I knew how to count shots and never bullcrapped around with padding stats. But I have literally sat next to other teams scorekeepers and they were totally clueless on shots/saves, etc. I've been gone from the PAHL for years, but I still think the dumbest move ever was implementing Fair Play Points.

Dave is still around? He did a great job running the CHE into the ground. Didn’t realize he left that leauge.

If the stats are published or not, parents and coaches already question scoring decisions. I still officiate games, and at the younger age groups I get questioned more about awarding secondary assists than I do about getting calls right in a lot of games. As far as shots goes, that has always been arbitrary even at the NHL level (I can remember the stories about the way NJ was legendary for some of the shot totals they came up with in the 2000's), so that will never be agreed upon. I disagree with the idea of giving out awards for scoring accomplishments because we already see players (and parents) who are ONLY concerned with how many goals their little player scores and that would only perpetuate selfish play. The bare minimum should be that the stats should be published and updated each week during the season. At the very least, this would provide a single source regardless if people are satisfied with the accuracy. People aren't always happy with the accuracy of the stats the NHL publishes, that's the cost of doing business.

@Spear and Magic Helmet" If PIHL can do individual stats, so can PAHL. I'm sure the complaints are happening in PIHL. There is a policy you can put in, I'm sure. I actually thought the issue was a lack of volunteers to do the manual input of stats, but it's clear that is not the reason." Both PIHL and PAHL run on the same platform - SportsEngine so the data is there, PAHL doesn't want to share it. Not only do PIHL stats get generated live during the game, but once the game is over those same stats appear on each player's profile on Elite Prospects. Anything is possible if there is a willingness........the dinosaurs at PAHL have none. I have attended a number of PIHL playoff games over the years ( only one this year ) and the atmosphere is fantastic.

AWESOME! Truer words have never been spoken! Your whole text is right on the money! We need to keep this discussion alive and try to put pressure on the PAHL through the member organizations to change their dinosaur way of thinking. You would think that if enough members want stats and pressure them it will happen! PIHL uses the same platform, You can see stats all the way down to Middle school. Stats aren't hiding anyone from other organizations. They all know who the best players in PAHL AA are. If coaches want to poach them they already have all the info they need. Just a poor excuse from PAHL!

I watched both Armstrong games online as my son has a few friends who still play there. They have a very solid team top to bottom, but they were certainly pushed. They topped NP 3-1, but it was probably the closer game. NP had a lot of good chances, but Armstrong goalie is very big with good positioning. He makes alot of tough saves look easy. For the Armstrong/Predators game, it was one of the greatest showings from a goalie I've seen in a while. Armstrong outmatched them pretty heavily, but that goalie stood on his head and stopped all 45+ shots through 3 periods and 2 OTs. Regarding the Mt Lebanon coach. If it's true that he bailed after the second period that's a shame and the parents should be angry. I believe it's the club president and long standing family tied with the club right?

Top 5? Armstrong is the gold standard for homerism, and hearing the Armstrong faithful parents attempt to say it isn’t so is comic relief.