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Really sorry to read this. I don’t know you from Adam, but I sincerely hope you and your family are able to bounce back from this, and that your kids (if still playing) are able to get back on the ice this fall.

I complied the list of western PA reps that have opposed this bill. The rest are all in Eastern PA and probably 8-10 are in Montgomery County alone. I hope this helps make it easier to reach out and contact these folks. A. DAVIS (D) DISTRICT 35 Allegheny County (412) 664-0035 DEASY (D) DISTRICT 27 Allegheny County (412) 928-9514 DERMODY (D) DISTRICT 33 Allegheny County, Westmoreland County (724) 274-4770 FRANKEL (D) DISTRICT 23 Allegheny County (412) 422-1774 GAINEY (D) DISTRICT 24 Allegheny County (412) 665-5502 INNAMORATO (D) DISTRICT 21 Allegheny County (412) 781-2750 LEE (D) DISTRICT 34 Allegheny County (412) 273-3400 LONGIETTI (D) DISTRICT 07 Mercer County (724) 981-4655 MATZIE (D) DISTRICT 16 Beaver County, Allegheny County (724) 266-7774 D. MILLER (D) DISTRICT 42 Allegheny County (412) 343-3870 RAVENSTAHL (D) DISTRICT 20 Allegheny County (412) 321-5523 SAINATO (D) DISTRICT 09 Lawrence County (724) 656-1112 WHEATLEY (D) DISTRICT 19 Allegheny County (412) 471-7760

Esmarks Facebook page live streamed the event tonight. Looked like there may have been a couple of news cameras there?

If it’s 4 on 4 full games then I would suggest to schedule double the amount of games and essentially split the rosters into Squad A and Squad B. That way the kids are pretty much getting the same amount of ice time. Even schedule the games one after another so the traveling org is still making the same amount of trips. I don’t know. Desperate times call for desperate measures! Trying to think creatively....

4 on 4 as a full 3 period game with 9 skaters? Or 4 on 4 two halves and switch players?

I was told that the ice surface and the stands are considered two different pods therefore in theory if its raised to 50, that should be enough to accommodate tier 1 clubs effectively. Not sure what "pod" that frank zamboni and the EMTs fall into though.

It still doesn't make sense as to why its 25 indoor and 250 outdoor. Those numbers just seem completely arbitrary to me. Let's just throw some shit at the wall and see what sticks. When you have a neighboring state like Ohio where the number of cases and deaths are very close to the numbers here, and yet their indoor limit is 300 it just makes you really think... Change it to 50, or better yet 100 and we all shut up and get back to hockey talk. Some will be happy (the majority of this board) and some will complain and want to stay home and that's completely their choice to do so.

Oh yeah ya know because that makes perfect sense! Wow....

Love the added reactions...we should all get some good use out of them I'm sure!

Not at all! Please do. I look forward to reading your article on it.

Speed limits are federal and state laws, they are not suggested guidelines from a local governor. Freedom of choice does not give you the right to break laws because you feel like it. Nice try with that ridiculous point though.

His kids coach probably showed up to practice smelling like weed and he absolutely wont tolerate that nonsense!

This is a fantastic idea.

I guess I am struggling to understand where the arbitrary 25 person limit even came from? Isn't it 300 indoor and 1500 outdoor in Ohio? Just step back and think about this for a second. If the limit for indoor sports in PA was even 40 people none of us would have anything to bitch about because it would essentially be business as "usual".

Re-read my posts. Did I personally say or imply at all that this was like the flu? No, I did not. I was commenting on the fact as to why rinks have you sign a waiver and provided a hypothetical scenario in which Karen sues a hockey rink.

"i came to your establishment under the pretense that it was being properly cleaned and social distancing guidelines and mask protocols were being followed. After leaving your facility, my little johnny started feeling ill and tested positive for covid. Little johnny died. Now I am suing you for exposing him to the virus and killing him. Give me $5 million dollars because that's what my lawyer has deemed his life is worth." People will sue for anything in this country. Therefore the rinks pretty much have to cover their ass by saying "you coming here is YOUR choice and we are doing our best to follow the cleaning protocols"

Because the flu has a vaccine and has been around forever and nobody (pre-covid) would try to sue a hockey rink for giving their kid the flu. But because the media has made covid a giant issue, these rinks have to be smart and cover their ass as certain people would be chomping at the bit to sue them for improper cleaning procedures resulting in their child getting it.

Not a parent of either org but I would think that RMU has to toe the line put in place by the governor because they could stand to lose a lot more than other rinks simply because they are tied to the college. Therefore because the Foxes don’t want to lose their home rink, they too will fall in line.

I would absolutely think the risk of exposure would be MUCH higher for basketball. Tons of skin to skin contact, all touching the same ball with their bare hands etc...

But even with that, if its 25 per sheet that doesn't solve any problems with the game being played as normal.

If the benches and ice surface just were considered two separate pods then this wouldn't be an issue at all. If they are able to do football sidelines and field as separate pods, why can't they use the same reasoning for hockey? Because of it being indoors? I have absolutely seen more than 25 people at different restaurants in Allegheny county as recent as last week. A BBQ place in Robinson. 10 workers behind the counter, and 14 tables of 3-6 people at each table. Yes, masks were worn by the workers and the tables were spaced out, but at least 60 people in the same building at the same time.

@Scooby Doo anyway you can share what the Foxes suggested? It was referenced a couple of times on that page. I'd love to see it.

Seems like there's a handful of orgs that are echoing NP. Happy to see that the org my kid plays for shares my point of view of wanting this to go as "normal" as possible. Also I really LOVED what the rep from the Aviators wrote. That just makes so much sense to me.

What are the two proposals?

My kid is too young for scouts and contact yet so I personally am not concerned with that. My point was that this will be a throwaway season and used more for conditioning than anything.