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  1. 6 points
    That's your opinion along with the Governor and his Health Secretary. A health secretary who among other things moved her mother out of a nursing home at the very start of this mess while at the same time sent positive patients back into other homes such as the one in Beaver County. That facility is the SOLE reason Beaver county is still in the Red phase. That leaves a lot of room to question their plans as well as their motives You have your Fauci's with one opinion, people from Stanford with another and last night I saw another doctor who had his message removed from youtube just like may others have. His message was this, the schools and children weren't at risk and we closed them immediately. The senior care facilities were the highest risk and they took forever to be closed. If we left the schools open, there would have been a better chance for building herd immunity. The bottom line is this, you don't know. I don't know and I'm not sure anyone really does know. So, for two months we have listened to their "rules" and now it's time to get back to life if you're so inclined OR stay at home in fear of something that is the unknown and which the duration is also unknown. Just not the way this country is supposed to work.
  2. 5 points
    How do you propose to enforce this. I don't think USA Hockey is going to send someone to a rink to take names. I am actually quite shocked by the people who are whining about a rink renting their ice out. How will you feel if rinks have to close because they have had no income for 4 or 5 months. How would it affect youth hockey if the number of rinks in western pa is cut in half when it gets to green. And for arguments sake tell me what it is going to take to get to green. How can you work toward something with no guidelines. People are tired of government just making things up, No one is being forced to skate. Maybe just maybe there are people skating for the love of the game. I would like to think that most people are well aware of the risks involved with being in public. We are in this for the long haul. No quick fix. Time to get on with life! And yes that most likely means the inflated numbers are going to go up, people are going to get sick. Most will recover some will not. I live in a country that up until now gave me the choice to live my life free from oppression. I'd like to get back to that. Enough of my rantings. Time
  3. 4 points
    THIS IS GOING TO SOUND CRAZY!!!! How about everyone worry about their own kid!!!! Most of the parents who are raising issues about this are jealous and are the same types of parents that openly complain to their child about the coach or teammates. The supposed favorites are usually the kids that works harder than everyone else, loves the game, wants to be at the rink, and listens, which is the reason why their one of the better players on the team and getting more ice time. It’s not the coach’s fault, it’s the players, because I guarantee the player isn’t working hard, goofs around, doesn’t listen, isn’t skilled enough and causes the team problems. Rather than worry about what other kids and organizations (that your kid isn’t skilled enough to make) are doing you should worry about teaching your kid how to take responsibility for themselves and not shift blame.
  4. 4 points
    willing to bet 90% of people on this board would send their kids to the rink for full games or tryouts tomorrow- with no fear. in talking to many dems and republicans i don’t know anyone who fears school or sports. perhaps they will take precautions and be careful around the vulnerable people in their lives, but that’s it. and it’s not a matter of doing anything so that “little johnnie” shines - it’s just that most people who i know just don't have the fear that everyone says the media has instilled.
  5. 3 points
    Lol! That rink has a bit of a goose problem on the creek side. They crap on everything.
  6. 3 points
    You don't post here much then do you? We don't actually solve anything, or have any meaningful discussions here, that must be done on a different board.
  7. 3 points
    Rules should always be followed. That's why I always drive 55 on the interstate around the city and never let my kids play knee hockey in a hotel. I also never eat less than 30 minutes before getting in the swimming pool, never litter, always get a building permit when I do home repairs, and never curse in front of my mother. Scouts honor!
  8. 3 points
    Honestly, and I've never noticed this on the past so hopefully I'm wrong, but this entire thread stinks of "my kid didn't get invited I'm jealous" or at a minimum "I'm terrified in my house and jealous other people aren't". Let kids play sports and get some exercise. Save the liability bull$ for people who care.
  9. 3 points
    PAHL HQ - that's appropriate
  10. 3 points
    Prepping them for Prep school! Makes about as much sense as PPE's new *not associated with any school* Prep team. Haven't you heard about the new Pittsburgh Super Selects High Performance Elite Prospect Prep 6U Mite team?
  11. 3 points
    Extra special team that parents will pay a premium for Duh.
  12. 3 points
    I mean really. Old people die every day. We have plenty of beds and ventilators for all those old people. Let's get to playing hockey already!
  13. 3 points
    I'll be honest. I don't know what that means. The only thing I have nightmares about is that 6 months ago if I told you that the government was going to tell you where you could go, who you could see, what you could wear and what you could buy, everyone would have thought would never happen. Well, it has happened and some people are ok with it.
  14. 3 points
    I bet you have nightmares about Don Lemon tickling your feet.
  15. 3 points
    You tell him Eddie!!!! I agree 100% Besides that, who thinks we will see business as usual any time soon. I will practice social distancing and all the rest of the guidelines and still go out in public. That is just the new normal. I can't believe anyone thinks they can live with a shutdown of our lives until the virus is gone. There has to be a middle ground. I am very interested in hearing more about AAU Hockey. Thanks for the info. Do you know of any teams in SWPA? Competition for USA Hockey would be a good thing.
  16. 3 points
    This right here is so true. We had a ton of sick kids on both travel and PIHL teams last season. This is why I believe having a reliable anti-body test is just as important as testing for the actual virus because I believe we will see many of us have already had it. My company has an office in California. Half the office was out sick in February with some unknown sickness. Everyone now believes it was COVID, and likely explains why the numbers in CA are less than PA....not because they are following the lockdown better or started sooner, but because they've already had it and didn't know it.
  17. 3 points
    To date ( My company works with hospitals ) upmc mercy has taken care of 8 cases, Saint Clair 1, upmc East 3, Allegheny 5, upmc south side zero and this is where the testing is being done. I’d say this entire “pandemic” is over blown and unfortunately it’s turning into a political game. I would also wager that most kids that play hockey, along with their parents have antibodies for covid 19. This was by far the worse season of sickness on hockey teams. Dec-feb “the flu” went through most teams.
  18. 2 points
    If a coach needs to see a kid at 100% of his sport specific abilities at tryouts they have zero intention of developing their abilities throughout the season. And spare me parental opinions on what constitutes the “top players” at tryouts. Each coach needs to evaluate and select players that he or she will be able to properly develop and mold into the team structure. Not everyone values the same thing. But to suggest that a player that goes to play baseball or run track instead of playing 3 on 3, spring league or joining any number of events that rinks put on to keep the lights on in the summer, has any less to offer than a player whose manual dexterity related to puck handling is slightly sharper is moronic and why the sport has such a bad rep at the amateur level. The number of competent coaches within USA hockey is dwindling. But what’s worse is that Joe and Joyce MeddleParent know it all and think it’s always a conspiracy. Good coaches value athleticism, speed, strength, and work ethic. That’s what you look for at a tryout if you have any thoughts of being a good coach in any sport. If a player lacks any one of those attributes, the others better be elite. All sport specific skills can be honed and attained with those attributes in place. What type of skills the coach prefers will always show in their players. With that in mind, these coaches deserve compensation. But you can’t have Joe and Joyce dictating whether or not these guys are competent or not. But what a confounding situation you have when USA hockey has decided that J&J are what matter. That’s why you’ll see coaching competence go south. Nobody wants the hassle and USA hockey prefers controllable assets. Daddy coaches, step right up!
  19. 2 points
    Rumor has it Alpha is in deep with issues surrounding the lack of social distancing and mask wearing by some of its patrons. I guess someone has repeatedly given warning to the geese to stop congregating in small groups, wear masks but to no avail. The local magistrate, when asked, said he was highly concerned about these geese (and ducks) disregard for CDC guidelines, and that they continue to congregate and shit all over the parking lot. If these Geese cause a breakout, will their affiliates take action against them. We all know the members of the gander who are blatant disobeying the rules. Wonder what happens next??
  20. 2 points
    The players have probably moved on in their own minds yet mommy an daddy just can't let it go. Poor Bobby should never have to suffer this injustice.
  21. 2 points
    Allegheny and Butler counties going Green starting next Friday.
  22. 2 points
    This is quite different though. This isn't truly (or shouldn't be if we are talking "science") about kids or their parents at the rinks dying. That's such a small % chance it's laughable. This is about hypothetical risk to others, killing "granny" if you will. There are quite a few equivalents to the idea of driving, going places in flu season, taking children on ATVs, etc. Even though this virus is worse than those as far as risk to others and possibly to self depending on your situation, we make calculated risks every day about what we think are acceptable or unacceptable consequences. No one wants to put out a number of lives that make something acceptable but there is one somewhere. If we are going to make policy and enforce that on others someone needs to come up with a real metric. Originally it was hospital capacity. Now it's "lives". That bar keeps moving and no one is willing to say "here is the measure or here is the metric that makes risk acceptable". We are all lying if we say playing hockey isn't worth risking one life. People die playing sports, driving to sports, etc. So how many lives is it? Or is it hospital capacity? Or is it making people sick? And none of that gets into the tradeoffs involved in "keeping things closed". It's honestly a conversation we need to be having. Or should we just stop playing sports forever? What if a vaccine never comes (WHO says that's possible)? No more school sports or restaurants for the rest of our lives?
  23. 2 points
    I actually agree with you and it's also up to the individual parents. My sarcasm in the last post was a response to King about when "rules" apply. I have not participated in any hockey activities and probably won't until it is officially allowed. At the same time, it isn't my job to go around whining about other people who choose to do so or try to morality shame them or snitch on them or anything else. If someone wants to enforce the rules, be it a government organization or a sporting authority like Mid-Am, PAHL, or USA Hockey, it's easy enough to see who is participating and who isn't and that's their perogative. It's looking more and more as though nothing is going to be enforced and I'm perfectly OK with that.
  24. 2 points
    Minding your own business seems hard these days
  25. 2 points
    Yeah Nemesis! Here is a topic we can agree on. My kid was never a "goal scorer", but did have a fairly successful career as a d-man with a great +/-, perfect tape-to-tape passes and rarely lost a battle on the boards. Always towards the bottom of the stats list after Peewee's (that when he realized he had a role to play on the team, which was skating it coast-to-coast and shooting). A lot of times when people came calling on him I was always surprised because of his lack of goals, but every coach pointed out (just like you did), there is more to this game than scoring goals. Great post, thanks
  26. 2 points
    I would agree that pihl teams don’t seem to always play their best players for whatever reason (first you have to get them to join the team). Tier 1 kids get frustrated watching a dman think he’s Paul Coffey leading the rush just to turn the puck over at the opponents blue line or line mates playIng 3 on 3 Superman hockey, but I suppose both of these should be put on coaching. Regardless of skill level and skating ability, kids should be taught to move the puck, use your line mates. The best thing I’ve ever heard a coach yell during a game “you can’t skate the fn thing faster than you can pass it”.
  27. 2 points
    North Pittsburgh is not forming teams at this time. We intend to hold tryouts as usual, once the pandemic lets up and our home facility is re-opened. A tryout schedule will be posted once there is clarity on our rink's status. Daryl Dolan Director of Travel Hockey
  28. 2 points
    The “evenly balanced teams” is always brought up by the parents on the board that have kids that can’t cut it on the “higher level” teams and want their kids to be on a winning team. And don’t be too quick to pay the backs of the parents that shot it down. They more than likely have motives as well. Having even teams eliminates the “top team”. So no bragging rights. Plus I’m sure the weak-willed board members didn’t put up much of a fight. This is absolutely no different than any parent who wants their kid to play on a AAA team for the status. This is why I always say to blame the parent for being self serving before you’re going to blame the organization for being greedy. Believe me, self serving parents came long before the greedy organizations. They created the monster.
  29. 2 points
    Come on @Eddie Shore. Wise up. Men can own hair salons too.
  30. 2 points
    I'd say this has about a 1% chance of happening. The fact that they're still discussing this is enough to justify cleaning house with their leadership.
  31. 2 points
    In good news, Georgia has the least hospitalized and least on vents since April 8. If that trend continues we should be golden by mid summer.
  32. 2 points
    Typical lib, I live in beaver county. It’s cleaner than Allegheny, all the problem is one nursing home. Quarantine the home and workers. The pandemic is bs to begin with, go read about the Hong Kong flu, it’s a similar virus.
  33. 2 points
    "Amadio along with the other county commissioners said the governor told local leaders his decision was based off the number of positive cases and deaths coming out of Brighton Rehab and Wellness Center. “The nursing home outbreak is not a new development, it’s been going on for weeks and this administration’s irrational decision to sit on the sidelines at the beginning and the Department of Health’s failed oversight has now resulted in that administration punishing all of Beaver County,” said Commissioner Daniel Camp. Camp tells KDKA to date there are 333 positive COVID-19 cases between residents and staff plus 71 related deaths in this nursing home. There are 78 coronavirus-related deaths in Beaver County total. County Commissioner Jack Manning said it doesn’t make sense everyone else in the region can open, while the governor “puts a wall” around Beaver County for one nursing home. He said it’s his job to protect the welfare of businesses and residents, which is why he won’t be backing the governor’s decision." Yeah, deprive the county businesses of a living because of an outbreak pretty much contained to one place. Does that make sense to you? I'm glad to hear that the County DA won't prosecute people who open their business.
  34. 2 points
    If it takes 10-12 weeks to get to the green we are going to see a lot of businesses open against the orders. Some are already defying the Governors orders We all know of Hair Salons that are quietly opening to preferred customers. What he did to Beaver County is ridiculous. At this point we should all know the risks associated with going out to public places. If rinks were to open next week with restrictions I would let my kids go. I will probably get them a clear face shield, Make them dress and undress at home. The problem I see is how will restaurants, gyms, salons survive on 25% capacity. Most are built on 50 to 75% just to breakeven.
  35. 2 points
  36. 2 points
    If it is so bad. Twenty, 30, ,40, 50 more would have booked by now. Not too hard get so many of these fed up organizations in a room to leave for AAU. The reason is USA Hockey isn't as bad as people think. The real problem with USA Hockey is idiot parents screw things up. Case in point. About 20 years ago they tried to put the skids on the proliferation of AAA teams. Their solution was to "award" each area with a cap on AAA teams. People screamed even though the real AAA players on teams that would have been eliminated would easily have found a new home. But what was good for the game and especially the families playing revolted. So instead of having 60 0r 70 AAA team we are approaching 200. WPA was awarded 2 teams - AM Pens and the Hornets. The Stars (prior to esmark) and Phantoms were told to drop down to AA. People revolted. What do we have now? And guess what. I've seen a bunch of these AAA teams and WPA only have enough AAA players to field 2 teams. But 5 organizations and SSA (who has to resort to recruiting players outside of the region) and a ton of AA/AAA hybrid programs. So about 60 percent of these people are being sold a bill of goods, spending thousands for that extra A. Costing their kids an opportunity to enjoy their HS years instead of sitting in hotel rooms most weekends. Before blaming USA Hockey. Think about what you want to change and see if you think it would be changed. Basically. USA Hockey is exactly what its membership wants it to be,
  37. 2 points
    I really don't like this moving target that Wolf has put out there. He says one thing and then backs off from it. By now everyone should have an understanding as to how easily it spreads. I would venture to say that we will see the use of masks in every day life for a long time. There is not going to be a day when everything goes back to the way it was last November. I could deal with it a lot better if you told me by July 1st (or any date in the next 60 to 90 days) we expect to have things reopened with modifications. Give me some light at the end of the tunnel so I can work to make it happen.
  38. 2 points
    Pennsylvania is being advised on matters of health by some dude that's so confused he dresses up like a woman every day. It's worse than the movie Idiocracy.
  39. 1 point
    Ugh no they won’t, USA hockey CONTROLS the rinks customers. Maybe king Ralph goes against the grain for the predators due to owing both but they won’t have anyone to play. Truth being, I doubt he would even go against USA hockey but who knows.
  40. 1 point
    I’m going to reply and break down your post for the benefit of those that don’t have the experience to see this for the filibustering it is. The statements you make are either inaccurate or unrelated to anything we’ve discussed in this thread. First, let me preface this by saying I couldn’t agree with you more about the parents. But USA hockey has correctly identified parents as the target demographic. They pay the bills and donate the money. Remember, it’s not the salaries that show up on the annual budget and audits. It’s the ancillary income like, endowments, outside job appointments, or having sub contracted jobs awarded to “friends”, etc, that don’t show up on record. So these are the people they will cater to. So when you blame parents (which I do consistently) don’t forget to hold their creator accountable. Now, as for the situation you stated as a “case in point” from 20 years ago, that was the dream scenario but that hardly played out that way. This was the year 2000. The players born that year are aging out of juniors for God’s sake. The landscape was infinitely different. Nobody was awarded anything. The way you described it is exactly how it was described in every rumor mill conversation in every lobby in every rink in town. Parents complained but had zero input in the matter. Look no further than the heads of the organizations that stayed alive during that time. You named Esmark as one of them. 1 name was there then and is now. Not a parent. And another organization in town has gotten along financially pretty well. Ask yourself this, if USA hockey is all about the players and parents are the only problem, how did someone who earns money off of an amateur sport and wasn’t included in this “AAA award process” maintain an organization at that level all this time? MONEY!!! If they weren’t awarded the coveted AAA spots in 2000, why didn’t they break off? The reason is, there was no process. USA hockey realized that in order to maintain their iron grip on the cash flow and be the money players in the sport nationally, they needed the rinks to thrive. Like it or not, these “AAA” teams buy a lot of ice. Who cares about how they’re run? USA hockey doesn’t. You can’t have rinks closing up and expect to make money. That’s the part about this current crisis they can’t escape. They have to choose their money or their members. Guess who wins? finally, your stake to about USA hockey being what the members want is the problem. The parents who you claim are the problem are now being pandered to by USA hockey. They never see them sneaking up and stealing their wallets. They have monopolized the sport and ensured that nobody can make money off of the sport except them. Except, uh-oh, what do we do when governors lockdown states in a pandemic? I bet you your registration fee they will do what’s best for their wallets.
  41. 1 point
    From what I see of the protests in various states people are starting to revolt against the Hysteria. I go back to the fact that a free society should be able to make their own decisions. I choose not to live in China. At this point everyone should understand the risks. I'm sure you could modify things. Kids get dressed at home. No more locker rooms for a while. It's called adapting and adjusting to the situation. I just think that if we don't get things moving soon the whole economy of the US will be in chaos. I by no means am advocating business as usual. I do agree that warning signs and liability wavers might be the in the new normal. But to expect no sports for several years is unrealistic. Danner27, shouldn't kids and parents who would be willing to take the risk to play know better than to be around high risk people? Give us some credit, or are we all just mindless drones?
  42. 1 point
    Experts are starting to come out and say it is not as bad as people think it is. https://www.stress.org/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-severely-overreacting-to-coronavirus https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/04/umpc-argues-covid-19-not-as-deadly-as-feared-says-its-hospitals-will-shift-back-to-normal.html It is very deadly for a certain populace and need to be protected but it can be done with minimal disruption to our everyday lives. If you live with or have contact with a high risk person be very careful. My wife is over 60 and battled breast cancer several years ago, Her immune system still isn't 100 percent and during that time I took a lot of precautions. Most what we are experiencing today. I coached two teams ranging from Pee Wees and high school during this time. I used wipes almost to an obsession. I made other coaches handle the water bottles. I kept my time in a locker room to a minimum. Fist pumped players in the handshake line (and quickly used wipes on my hands once it was over). And for about 3 years I never had a cold which was a regular occurance during hockey season because my players were typhoid mary's. When we are allowed out full time. I will be wearing a mask and continue to do what I started several years earlier. As long as you regularly and properly wash you hands and limit handshakes and hope people learn to sneeze properly then 99 percent of the population will be fine. So grandparents don't go to games any more until a vaccine/treatment is developed. Small trade off. But with LiveBarn they can still watch in real time. Same with people in the at risk category. Parents may have to miss attending games. It stinks but as a parent I know I would rather my kids play sports without me being there than not at all (insert your own helicopter parent comment here). Be safe and smart everyone.
  43. 1 point
    Unfortunately, anyones personal beliefs don’t make a bit of difference here. His assessment is based on the beliefs of the politicians making the decisions. The fact that Laraque (not to mention many other well known people) continue to contract the virus only serves to feed any purported hysteria caused by media and politicians. Again, USA hockey will only look to protect its financial well being. They will not give the go ahead for business as usual until A) the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has provided a vaccine and backed mass gatherings and B) they have detailed by law amendment that eliminates their liability for any events under their umbrella. Imagine now, trying to enforce people wearing masks to games, no concessions, remaining a certain distance from each other and having hygiene and disinfecting standards in all facilities. Including privately owned ones. How do they force a business to follow their requirements that only protect them? They force the customers to take on the liability by not allowing them registration if they don’t use USA hockey approved facilities. Bottom line, this is a gut punch for the sport in the US
  44. 1 point
    While I don’t disagree with your feelings and thoughts - you are missing the point. A high profile ex nhl player has it. This will put fear into current pros, the nhl. Hockey Canada and USA hockey. It will all trickle down to the youth level. can you imagine if one kid gets it and spreads it to some of his teammates ? Or possible a grand parent who struggles to beat it. Can you see the lawsuits ???
  45. 1 point
    I miss hockey, my hockey player misses hockey. Our family is missing hockey. I would not jeopardize the health of my player or my family including my parents and those who are ill by packing 20 people into a locker room. Someone just pointed out how many people were sick this past season. Well imagine what this would be like.... To those making comparisons to the flu-I guess they keep the Beaver Ice rink frozen in the winter for all the people who die of the flu???? We have been lucky this area has had a minimal impact...You're hockey people talk to one of your friends in Detroit they will tell you exactly how bad it could be.
  46. 1 point
    Not one of the people tested in our CA office tested positive for flu. Not all got tested because they didn't go to the doctor but of those that did, it wasn't the flu...according to the test. I'm not in disagreement with you, really, I understand this is far more serious than a regular flu. But what are we going to do? Hide in our homes for another year? That's easy for people like me to say, who are able to work from home. Not so easy for someone without a job or is in danger of losing their small business. We cannot continue to pay unemployment for millions of people for that long.
  47. 1 point
    I don’t know what the remedy is. I’m sure youth sports is not even on governments radar right now. When it does come across their plate and they dive in, they are going to have to consider the jobs and businesses involved with youth sports. When focusing on hockey, disallowing an amateur hockey season to take place would effectively kill off rinks, then the sport itself by proxy. They will bankrupt, they will close and most properties will be foreclosed or sold off to companies who obviously won’t have any intention on using the structure as a rink in the future. That’s the good news. It will be of concern forcing people out of work and owners in a hole. The bad news. Most rinks employ what, 10 people? The majority of those 10 being teenagers or young adults making $10 an hour. The employment loss, and the income level might just not be relevant to those making decisions.
  48. 1 point
    This is what makes the current health crisis Different than the normal flu strain. However I do think the reality of the situation is, like always, somewhere in the middle. There’s always going to be a political element to anything in the American culture. You can debate all day long on whether or not it’s as grave a situation as is being reported. But what you can’t debate is that the government holds all the cards here. The centuries old debate on states rights versus federal control is still alive and well here. Bottom line, PA does not look as if it is gearing up for fall sports. And the financial fallout hasn’t even begun.
  49. 1 point
    Has anyone seen any more information from CMU as to where they are with this "decision support tool" To that end, the commonwealth is partnering with Carnegie Mellon University (CMU) to create a data-driven decision support tool that will enable a balance between maximizing the results of our economy while minimizing public health risks. This tool will help better understand the current health and economic status, as well as the inherent risks and benefits to easing restrictions by sector and region. How long before we see this?
  50. 1 point
    When this whole business started, what were we told by Dr. Fauci and all the doctors?? Flatten the curve! And why do this? So our healthcare system doesn't get overrun. NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING in their initial comments about this said anything about reducing deaths. Even Gov. Cuomo in one of his first pressers gave a condescending talk about what flattening the curve meant with infantile pictures of a wave crashing into a hospital. When you flatten a curve, you don't reduce the number of instances, you just spread them over a longer period. Well, we've done what they asked and still they ask for more. Hospitals are not being overrun. Yes, some places are hit harder, but people aren't waiting in hallways to get put on vents. It's getting ridiculous and people are already starting to move about more. I know this virus isn't the flu, I get it can be serious, especially for people at risk. Some people will act like idiots when we open back up, but the vast majority will be careful, wear masks, social distance, etc, etc. The economic impact is obviously a disaster. But so too is the fact that people aren't able to get routine screening for problems they are having. My wife had her regular mammogram that had been scheduled for April moved until August. I'm sorry, that's 4 months she has to wait....what if something could have been caught now, does her life not matter too? And what, did people all of a sudden stop having heart attacks and strokes? Because everything you read says the numbers coming into the hospitals are way down. It's time to open things back up....cautiously!
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