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  1. 4 points
    as far as i know all but 4 kids remain 2 kids never showed up of which one was from the cleveland area so thats understandable and 2 got cut thats hardly a lot of kids... as far as not playing for yuri are you kidding me? that man is one of the top coaches in the area my boy played for him years ago and im not going out on a limb here and saying he is the best coach my kid has ever had and that includes jrs ..never seen a coach so dedicated to his players and helping them move on also seen him help other players even when there was no chance of them playing for esmark the guy is all about hockey so anyone saying they dont want to play for yuri is just hog wash.. 20000 dollars where did you pull that figure from surely you have evidence to back that statement up...i never came close to that figure and all top tier teams travel thats part of the gig but $ 20000 thats just laughable and as far as tuition esmark has the lowest fees in pitt and they dont come after you later in the year for a slush fund... as far as shenanigans thats a blanket statement ..really ? what shenanigans?any one above please back up your statements i can guarantee you cant... this board is and always has been a cesspool of negativity and jealous and disgruntled parents players towards both esmark and pens elite organizations quite frankly its a testament to both organizations how relevant and competitive they are year in and year out in districts and nationals despite playing in a small market and that should be celebrated
  2. 4 points
    Nothing within this topic is remotely accurate. There is often a false belief that the majority of the team always remains as tryouts are approaching--from rumors--and therefore players don't think they have an opportunity/or that there is not open spots. A LOT did NOT leave for the Barons. Players were cut. It happens. The majority of the core remains. I see no reason NOT to want to play for Coach Yuri. Those are your issues, not his OR those who have chosen to play on his team. The Esmark travel schedule is not $20K and the NAPHL has worked to REDUCE the playing days in a weekend. Russian imports DO NOT come to fruition UNTIL all other avenues have been exhausted. But I have heard that Arizona, Alaska & Illinois are A-OK! NO players were cut before or at Dec 31. Stop spreading rumors. Any shenanigans that occur are directly from sneaky parents/players. The Barons were recruiting long BEFORE any Mid-am team try-outs occurred...FACT! Board Moderators: STOP allowing folks to drag coaches, players, or organizations through the mud!
  3. 3 points
    Truer words have never been spoken. This analysis hits the nail on the head, and explains exactly what is wrong with youth sports today.
  4. 3 points
    My son is an 04 and went. He did not advance but he had such a great time playing with kids of that caliber. He came home and said he knows what he needs to work on for the next time. So, for us, it really wasn't a waste at all. He may not have been picked but he definitely learned.
  5. 3 points
    Don't hate me because I'm right. I have called my shot three times now and each time I went yard. My new username should be Babe Ruth. As to the subject at hand, you have valid points when it comes to PPE, Esmark and Preds. See what happens when you stay focused?
  6. 3 points
    Prep school’s & the HPHL are the top leagues. Just look at the rankings at every birth year. The T1EHL is falling apart, it’s not what it was just 4 years ago. it’s no secret Pittsburgh & Buffalo are trying to get out. PPE do a excellent job of developing players but it’s turned into a rich man’s program due to the forceful Tactics of their school. Let’s not talk about the black teams at the younger levels, those teams are glorified Pahl AA teams. We all know those teams are truly used for pens & friends and to sell more ice. Im not sure who the barons are beating. Their team’s at every birth year are at the bottom half of the rankings. You must be referring to the district tournament two seasons ago when the 15s upset ppe here in Pittsburgh. If your player’s team has ever played the baron’s you would know their home rink makes the frozen pond look like it’s state of the art. The baron’s don’t develop players and their fees are higher than any in pittsburgh. Travel fees for any AAA program usually run between 5-10k so add your team fees on top of that with equipment it’s not out of the question that a aaa season could push into 20k. In my experience most aaa seasons run about 14-15k.
  7. 3 points
    I can come up with a few possible answers. They didn't want to play for Yuri. They were replaced by a Russian import. They don't want to waste another 20K traveling to Minnesota for 4-5 days at a time.
  8. 2 points
    Note: I have removed a few off topic posts from this thread. Best of luck to NC as they work on building their program. -PB
  9. 2 points
    @The King Please do not post this sort of thing on the board as it serves no purpose other than to possibly fire up other members. I did not find any issue with the posts of the users you called out. These sorts of posts have been made regularly over the past 10+ years and it looks like to me they are stating things from their perspective. I may be missing it but I don't see where they are showing NC "in a bad light". People can have their own takes here and that's what it looks like to me. We went down the same road with you and Esmark and being critical of posts/posters, which (unfortunately) resulted in me having to clean up that whole thread. For example, @fafa fohi posted "I heard that NC will be fielding a Varsity team in the fall. Congrats to the school and to the program. I don't know if they have enough players for both a JV and a Varsity but it is good to see local school hockey growing in western PA, especially with a program that is going on its 4th year and was dormant for so long. " and you @The King replied "Guess we know where this guy’s money is going!" That was a completely below the belt reply and unless you know @fafa fohi how would you know (or even care) how he spends his money? @fafa fohi post looks completely legit to me and I am grateful more kids will be playing hockey through their school. I don't see anything bad at all about his post. As soon as you made that reply post it resulted in a flurry of back and forth action. Had you not made that reply things wouldn't have dropped to where they are now. For a while you ( @The King) were making posts with good thought and insight, however some of your posts in this thread seem to only be intent on whacking the hornet's nest and stirring up action. DO NOT post requests for us to moderate content publicly on the board. You can PM us. Do not put my name in a post and ask us to do things. You are NOT a moderator. PB
  10. 2 points
    Sorry, Wampa, King, whatever your user name is this week. I am an alumni of NC. Your statement was incorrect ( as usual ) as you always jump to assumptions. You are wrong. Fair enough? My questions to you are these - why are you badmouthing the program? What is your motivation? I made a simple statement and surprise, you come here with no knowledge whatsoever of the program and only to talk trash like you always do. That is your MO on everything, regardless of what username you use. Talk about transparency - your ideology comes through regardless of what name you are using. You might want to invest in a mirror and do some soul searching, bro.
  11. 2 points
    North Catholic finished try outs this past weekend and while I could not see everything on the ice the entire time, I was not able to see that group of “ Excel superstars” anywhere. Maybe I just missed them. Perhaps they will show up for the games.
  12. 2 points
    I’m not wealthy so I have no reference but, does manipulating things for your kid that gratifying? Anyway, this is one of those situations where one scumbag is calling the other scumbag a scumbag. Does anyone wonder why these kids are so far removed from reality? You have grown men, in many ways successful, fighting and politicking for them. Neither team is going to benefit the players either. That’s the sad part.
  13. 2 points
    Nobody. There is zero scouting there. The evaluation and on ice stuff is done by coaches from ppe & Sylvania.
  14. 2 points
    Something to keep in mind, regardless of if you have a son or daughter playing, is that for-profit organizations (Pens, Selects, Vengeance, Icemen, etc) have one primary concern - making money and filling their ice slots, especially if they have an ownership interest in the rink. Fielding competitive teams and developing players is secondary. Pens are known for not caring where the players come from, if it makes their teams more competitive. Their success shows that it works for them, like it or not. It would be safe to bet that all of those for-profit teams have bench warmers. If you want to play at that perceived higher level, equal playing time is not guaranteed. Offering “Black” or “Minor” teams is no guarantee of development either. They often perform at a lower level than PAHL teams, at a higher price tag and time commitment. Their “development” is playing teams well above their skill level in hopes they will push themselves harder and somehow get better. It’s an approach that rarely works. I haven’t met anyone cut from the Pens have a good thing to say afterward. I’m sure it stings, especially if you’ve been there for awhile. However, cutting an org down and then immediately trying to build up another org really doesn’t reflect positively on the org that you are trying to promote. Consider that before venting. There is an organization out there to fit everyone’s needs. Do your research to find what makes sense for you.
  15. 2 points
    Not getting the rationale by MLHA having 04 and 05 tryouts over MidAm Select Camp weekend, and then selecting a full 2005 roster while there could be cast-offs from the 05 AAA Preds going on right now. Could leave a few quality players out there looking for a home by the end of this week.
  16. 2 points
    Well, it is official, the person from Johnstown is no longer running Galactic Ice in Altoona. Appears that somebody got a clue and got rid of him. All coaches seem to have been removed from the Mustangs website also. All of the board members that created this mess have taken their hockey players elsewhere. 😂 I heard that tryouts for both Trackers and Mustangs were laughable at the upper levels. At the 16 and 18 there was hardly enough players to field a curling team, let alone a hockey team. The complete collapse of both organizations is now complete.... Hats off to the board that assisted is destroying a great program also. The least you could have done was kept your kids playing in the mess you created. Sad. Will take years to recover, if ever.
  17. 2 points
    Unfortunately that is exactly what yuri is doing! Trying to fill teams! Last year at this birth year he drove all the way to Sylvania, Ohio during the mid am camp trying to recruit 03s. Just like this year, not enough kids signed up. He ended up taking players last year that never played AA hockey. Part of the problem, by the time kids get to midget 90% of the parents are educated and understand what their child’s end game really is, even the top percentage of highly skilled kids are a long shot to even get a smell of Ncaa d1 college hockey. Midget parents understand for the most part, save that 10-15k a year for 3 years and put it towards college.
  18. 2 points
    There is some truth to both sides here. Here’s the real facts. Esmark U16 (2003) had 16 2003 birth year players at tryouts. That’s it. 12 forwards 4 defenseman. The best 2003 esmark player did not sign up. He left on his own for the baron’s. 3 other players also did not sign back up. Yes, the core of the same 4 players are still there. Yuri in a attempt to fill the team is contacting any 2003 parent that will listen to what he has to say. I was one of them.
  19. 2 points
    Yes, you allowed to spread lies on here. Don't call them out or you'll get threatened with a ban.
  20. 2 points
    Moderators prohibiting negative comments would lead to a virtual elimination of discussion. For obvious reasons, we disallow criticism of kids as well as potentially libelous accusations against adults. And sometimes individual trolls. That's pretty much it. You, on the other hand, are always welcome to "correct the record" yourself, as you did above. I don't have the omniscience to do so myself, nor does @PaulBaxter
  21. 2 points
    I think I've heard more than one story about players getting cut right before Dec. 31 of the season. Thus putting the player in a really bad situation... that combined with the other shenanigans and you probably have enough reason to leave.
  22. 1 point
    I have not heard and nobody seems to know. I heard some rumors about the guy.
  23. 1 point
    I fail to see how such a presumably innocent topic can escalate like this... State your take/opinion and move on and leave the personal angst on your side of the screen. It's ok to disagree with someone's take on an issue without going into any form of personal attack.
  24. 1 point
    https://www.pittsburghpenguinselite.com/news_article/show/1018471 This is where those "Superstars" will be playing. Did they have a contest for the "Elite mites" to name this new league?
  25. 1 point
    Simple answer. Dave was the program and he knew how to handle the parents (boards included). Now the nuance. Once he reached his goal (Sam Lafferty), he left. It took a couple years to fall apart but it was inevitable. It wasn’t a sustainable model for success. Plus, after winning a national championship, the expectations were too high. Too small an area to have success without a “salesman” to bring in outside talent. Dave also kept track of AAA tryouts and targeted the last cuts. Plus, you don’t have a Sam Lafferty and a core of really good local talent at every age group.
  26. 1 point
    The paid coaching attracted Pens Elite players back in some instances, at least those who made black. It may be that parents predominantly want development, and if an organization can deliver that, and the perception is paid coaching gives you that, this is what will attract talent. That may be a way for PAHL to retain the AA players who go play for Pens black.
  27. 1 point
    like i said this message board is a cesspool and should be shut down the only scumbags are coward adults hidding behind user names making false accusations against coaches and organization i wonder how many would post this garbage if they had to put their real names behind rumors and false accusations....adults acting like middle school children ...do you adults ever think these coaches and people that run organization have wives and children before you post false garbage....people that try to trash reputations and characters of good people have none of their own...
  28. 1 point
    Preds Update 18U- Will struggle to score goals. Most of their talent aged out from last year and the kids moving up from 16AAA last year were one of the worst teams in the country. 3 of those players will be lucky to make the team and 2 play D. A player from AA Foxes last year was the best offensive talent at tryouts and I don't know if he will stay. Team will be average at best. 16U- This is a good team. Not sure what they will do on a national level but there is talent here. Their top end guys are players. 15U- As someone mentioned previously this team wouldn't win AA PAHL. A few of these players may decline also. Don't want to get bashed all season long.
  29. 1 point
    yes, not surprising that you have to pay to travel. most parents don’t get a hotel at the camps - the kids stay and it is included in the camp fee which is nominal. what is stated above is opposite of my experience. we had contact with college and Junior coaches who watched the camps.
  30. 1 point
    I had an 02 AA player just didn’t want to spend that kind of money on AAA Hockey it’s a waste. When we went to Mid Am most of the top AA kids were just as good or not better than the AAA players. The way the system is set up is no fair to AA players and I wouldn’t recommend spending $600 to $800 for a weekend to try out for a rig try out. A top AA player works just as hard as AAA player. It’s a injustice to that kid some families can’t afford AAA and some families don’t want to travel that shouldn’t be held against him in this Try-Out. If it was run the right way evaluators should come in from the outside of the MID AM area.
  31. 1 point
    USA hockey picks up zero cost. The year my son made it to Amherst the entire process with travel probably cost us about $1500
  32. 1 point
    I obviously can’t name names on this board of “who” the player from Lebo was. He’s a defenseman who played on that team last year. Why would where the Arctic Fox player be playing next year matter? The evaluators wouldn’t know that. It’s almost like you’re saying he didn’t earn it himself?
  33. 1 point
    The only program Mr. (unbiased) King, a.k.a. Wampa, whatever has not yet bashed over the past season is based in Harmarville. Bashing competitors is a common method to build numbers. My observations indicate each program has it's strengths. Esmark has been hosting tier 1 hockey longer (35+ years) than any program in the USAH Mid-American district. Not implying perfection but Esmark's respect across the Continent indicates a lot of positives have been/are being accomplished. Player and family have to weigh plus/minus if there's multiple choice. Everybody has favorite coaches, teachers, etc. Tough, demanding one's create the most challenges for players and families. Parents (some desperately) want their children to succeed (definition varies) and it's difficult to see their own deal with challenging situations. Coaches are easy scapegoats. I've found allowing a child learn how to deal with it is the most important growth aspect of demanding athletics. If every player in a program doesn't advance beyond midget hockey, doesn't indicate there wasn't opportunity to advance. Many players have multiple opportunities post midget, including strong academic choices or jobs that are going to prove most important in life. Also implied if there's < 100% hockey advancement beyond midget is that players are failures. I find it's quite impressive these boy's transforming into young men are so accomplished playing high tier 1 or tier 2 hockey, high school hockey and other athletic and academic commitments, no matter which club(s) they represent.
  34. 1 point
    They should have shut it down when Weaver left. He knew the model, put in the time and cared about the players, all the players. When Mom A and Dad B get involved, the only concerns are Kid A and Kid B and maybe a few others.
  35. 1 point
    PPE are not out (yet) the divisions got reworked so they don’t have to play weaker teams like Cleveland 4xs a season. No political connection ? Half of their best 03 players packed up and left. They had enough of the leadership there. Guess where they new local kid that “made it” is going to school next year.
  36. 1 point
    @Hoomie This was an unnecessary post. The only people banned were doing personal attacks and had been repeatedly warned. People post their own thoughts and experiences here. We can’t validate the truth of every post. A community like this will tend to self balance itself by people posting on various sides of a topic. If we know something (by our own experience) to be not truthful, then we will act accordingly. But we don't have the time, means or knowledge to police and investigate the validity of every single comment on this forum.
  37. 1 point
    Yes, that is what I was thinking of with the websites.
  38. 1 point
    I think their "tryouts" have been completed. If you read the information on how they operate tryouts/team placement it gives a thorough explanation along with plenty of cause for concern. For some reason, the PAHL wants them to stay afloat. They are propped up by a grant from the Penguins Foundation (as noted on their website) how many other associations get a nickel from them? The master plan is to put them into the Hunt Armory if it ever comes to fruition at which point, voila now the PPE have an association in the PAHL.
  39. 1 point
    maybe 3 years ago.. when the YMCA bought the building... Not sure what the long term status of the remaining open sheet is or what sort of agreement SHAHA has with the YMCA. But it seems like for sure the number of teams has gone down since they went to 1 sheet.
  40. 1 point
    What's the obsession with Harmar organizations? Do you realize that they're both basically one and the same? Just like NHAHA rosters Esmark and BV rosters Icemen so does SCIR roster Vengeance.
  41. 1 point
    This has nothing to do with the MS team, JV team or future Varsity team(s). It simply means that you can participate in Academy and not play for PPE. If you want your Gold bucket, you had better pony up for the Academy. Let's try it another way, it's hockey's version of Scientology.
  42. 1 point
    In looking at PAHL games in the various 14u divisions, I noticed that many teams did not earn their FPP. Is this unusual? Is it adjusting to checking or just the hormones kicking in? Does that improve over the season?
  43. 1 point
    Sounds interesting... please don't crosspost in the future though.
  44. 1 point
    Girls hockey is growing country wide. Help to support these young athletes. Here is a link to an early Tournament for girls. https://www.winter-hawks.org/page/show/199874-17th-annual-naha-labor-day-tournament-2018
  45. 1 point
    I have written a movie about girls hockey and i would love to hear some feed back from true hockey fans and especially players, family and fans close to girls hockey. I will say this, if you wouldn't let your child watch slap shot then i wouldn't let them read this script. Email me at scottedonatelli@gmail.com and i can forward you the script.
  46. 1 point
    The new forum has advanced capabilities of tagging someone (or several) people within a post. If you know their username, all you need to do is type the "@" symbol followed by their username. As you start to type the username it will do an "AJAX" lookup and show you all the usernames that start with those letters. Select one of those usernames and keep typing your post. The person (or people) that you tagged will get a notification that you tagged them when you make the post. I find this a very handy feature. Check it out!
  47. 1 point
    Today I deployed a brand new, robust theme which is now set as the forum default. This them is call ORTEM. It has the ability to show lots of forum statistics and is much more robust than the built-in theme that came with the software.
  48. 1 point
    Thank you and good idea. I will add a girls hockey discussion.
  49. 1 point
    Hello Everyone! I am pleased to welcome you to the brand-new Western PA Hockey forum. The new forum has 100x the features of the old forum but best of all we are free of the restrictions placed on us by the former "free" forum provider. I can speak from experience the old forum setup was sub-par both in terms of technology and the way they treated their forum clients. I couldn't wait to get off that platform and this new forum took lots of time and planning to implement, plus the software is not free (I went with a proven, robust forum platform). As I had previously noted, the prior forum provider claimed full ownership of all the forum content, so we were not able to migrate any content to this forum. So we're starting fresh for this upcoming 2018-19 season. Take a spin around the forum and let's get it started! Let me know what you think. PB
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