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AND Finally this train wreck oof a team has folded up shop. With their 2 forfeits today the league had finally booted the con artist out!!!!!! Shocked it took this long to do so....

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No different than JoePa

Huh. A conman stealing money. Who could've saw that coming?

They can just play men's league. The better beer leagues around here are a higher level of hockey anyway

Bummer for the players who just wanted to play the game they love! Hopefully someone can salvage the idea for next year. Probably couldn't get enough players to travel at their expense!

I disagree, play pickle ball

Couple more 08s: Hornets AA is today 4/13 with callbacks tomorrow and Wednesday. SHAHA AAA is tomorrow 4/14 with I believe callbacks on 4/15 and their AA team will have tryouts later in the week.

Most '08 tryouts start this week. Here are some. I'm not leaving anyone off intentionally -- these are just the ones I have -- and feel free to make corrections if anything is incorrect. Predators (AAA) start today (4/13). Sorry, but I have no information on the Predators. Arrows AA NB and Esmark AAA start tomorrow (4/14). Arrows had their free skate/clinic Thursday and had a great turnout (There is no doubt Lee Grafton runs a great program there). Someone else posted that there wasn't a good turnout for Esmark's free skate, but I am not able to confirm that personally. Vengeance AAA tryouts start Monday the 15th. I know families there, and it is a solid team with a lot of returning players. I know of quite a few other players who are trying to crack that lineup, though. This team seems to be a target of a lot of talented players. Huskies (no level designation, so assume A/possibly AA) start Tuesday the 16th. Huskies are a question mark because last year's tryouts went from "AA," to "let's try to cobble together an A team," to scrapping the whole thing. To be fair, that was last year, it was the first year of a major expansion, and they may have ironed out the kinks. Predators (AA/A) start 4/18. Again, no disrespect to the Predators organization... I simply don't know anyone there to share information. So lots of overlap there the first weekend. Families are going to have to choose one (or start one and switch to possibly one other if things don't look good). Next weekend North Pittsburgh (A through AA) start tryouts on 4/20. This is NP's normal tryout process. It is just earlier this year. Not much to share that we all don't already know (nothing good, nothing bad... they're just probably the largest program in the area, so everyone knows them). The Vengeance 16U NB (AA) team tryouts start 4/21. Being that this is the Renegades conversion, I don't have much information on this one (or the regular Vengeance/Renegades tryouts below). All I know is what others post here, and what I know from returning families (whose players ARE returning). There seems to be a big flap about the cost this season, though. Iceman (AA/AAA independent) and Aviators '08 BY start 4/22. The Icemen were a pretty solid team last year, and families I know there are planning on returning. They may pick up kids who were squeezed by the overlapping tryouts, but they are solid on their own. The knock on this -- and other similar programs -- is the independent schedule. You either like it or you don't. The Aviators are puzzling to me -- no disrespect meant -- because they played A Major Gold last year as a mixed-year team, and they lost 100% of their '08s from the previous season, so I don't know how they will have the numbers to form an '08 BY team (which are usually higher-level... you don't usually see an A-level BY team). At any rate, they are an option for families looking to play elsewhere, and they are now playing at McKnight Arena. Regular Vengeance 16U (A) start 4/25. As stated above, I have heard very little regarding the Vengeance. A-level Renegades players from last season -- and some others -- have told me they plan on trying out there, but I am not much help past that. Yetis (A/AA) start 4/26. I know multiple families from last year's team, and they were a higher-performing A Major Black team, but were (impressively) almost all '08s. So the Yetis have them advertised as National Bound/AA this upcoming season, depending on who comes back and who joins the mix. Any AA-level talent that got squeezed by the tryout jumble could land here if they want to stick with a PAHL schedule. They're the last tryout of the season, so any higher-level players who don't yet have a home will still have a strong option. I hope this helps folks!

Most '08 tryouts start this week. Here are some. I'm not leaving anyone off intentionally -- these are just the ones I have -- and feel free to make corrections if anything is incorrect. Predators (AAA) start today (4/13). Sorry, but I have no information on the Predators. Arrows AA NB and Esmark AAA start tomorrow (4/14). Arrows had their free skate/clinic Thursday and had a great turnout (There is no doubt Lee Grafton runs a great program there). Someone else posted that there wasn't a good turnout for Esmark's free skate, but I am not able to confirm that personally. Vengeance AAA tryouts start Monday the 15th. I know families there, and it is a solid team with a lot of returning players. I know of quite a few other players who are trying to crack that lineup, though. This team seems to be a target of a lot of talented players. Huskies (no level designation, so assume A/possibly AA) start Tuesday the 16th. Huskies are a question mark because last year's tryouts went from "AA," to "let's try to cobble together an A team," to scrapping the whole thing. To be fair, that was last year, it was the first year of a major expansion, and they may have ironed out the kinks. Predators (AA/A) start 4/18. Again, no disrespect to the Predators organization... I simply don't know anyone there to share information. So lots of overlap there the first weekend. Families are going to have to choose one (or start one and switch to possibly one other if things don't look good). Next weekend North Pittsburgh (A through AA) start tryouts on 4/20. This is NP's normal tryout process. It is just earlier this year. Not much to share that we all don't already know (nothing good, nothing bad... they're just probably the largest program in the area, so everyone knows them). The Vengeance 16U NB (AA) team tryouts start 4/21. Being that this is the Renegades conversion, I don't have much information on this one (or the regular Vengeance/Renegades tryouts below). All I know is what others post here, and what I know from returning families (whose players ARE returning). There seems to be a big flap about the cost this season, though. Iceman (AA/AAA independent) and Aviators '08 BY start 4/22. The Icemen were a pretty solid team last year, and families I know there are planning on returning. They may pick up kids who were squeezed by the overlapping tryouts, but they are solid on their own. The knock on this -- and other similar programs -- is the independent schedule. You either like it or you don't. The Aviators are puzzling to me -- no disrespect meant -- because they played A Major Gold last year as a mixed-year team, and they lost 100% of their '08s from the previous season, so I don't know how they will have the numbers to form an '08 BY team (which are usually higher-level... you don't usually see an A-level BY team). At any rate, they are an option for families looking to play elsewhere, and they are now playing at McKnight Arena. Regular Vengeance 16U (A) start 4/25. As stated above, I have heard very little regarding the Vengeance. A-level Renegades players from last season -- and some others -- have told me they plan on trying out there, but I am not much help past that. Yetis (A/AA) start 4/26. I know multiple families from last year's team, and they were a higher-performing A Major Black team, but were (impressively) almost all '08s. So the Yetis have them advertised as National Bound/AA this upcoming season, depending on who comes back and who joins the mix. Any AA-level talent that got squeezed by the tryout jumble could land here if they want to stick with a PAHL schedule. They're the last tryout of the season, so any higher-level players who don't yet have a home will still have a strong option. I hope this helps folks!

Or leagues that draft a ton of kids as a marketing ploy, where teams have no intentions of signing most of them and most of the kids have no intention of showing up to the camps.

Some good discussions going on here. Glad to see we have some new folks to add their perspective to this site.

supposedly less than half of the 2009 Allegheny team is going back there after winning both pahl banners?