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With players wearing MASKS on the ice - They are going to have a hard time getting teams to come play in MI with this stipulation...fro MAYA website (https://www.maha.org/news_article/show/1121369) "As you know, on Thursday the Michigan Governor issued Executive Orders 175 and 176 that provide for a process to restart hockey and other youth sports in Michigan. Part of that EO requires that all athletes except swimmers where a “facial covering” while on the “field of play.” EO 2020-176.7(b). You may also be aware that the USA Hockey Safety Committee has published information on helmet face shields and masks that indicate that the CDC and WHO believe wearing a cloth mask during high intensity aerobic activity is not recommended. The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) has issued similar guidance. While the CDC, WHO an MDHHS have provided recommendations, the Governor’s current order seems inconsistent with those recommendations, as well as similar guidance from the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS). We also do not know whether the exceptions in Executive Order 153 addressing when a face covering is not required apply to Executive Order 176. MAHA, and others organizations, are seeking further clarification on EO 2020-176. Until such time as the government issues a clarification or change this is what we must follow if we plan to resume play on September 9. MAHA is not requiring any more than what is set out in EO 2020-176. Some of the feedback we have received indicates that other organizations would not require this Executive Order to be followed. I can assure you that they’re required to follow these same guidelines, and I would be very leery of an organization that is not taking this order and the safety of participants seriously. While wearing facial covering may not be ideal in the opinion of some, similar standards are being enforced on DI college football teams that are practicing as well as in youth hockey in Colorado and Massachusetts (face offs only). We aware of at least one hockey equipment manufacturer that has facial coverings that attach to the inside of a mask with may be a more preferential option for our sport. Unfortunately, we are hearing that product will not be available until early October. MAHA wants our membership to return to the ice on September 9. To do that we must follow the EO’s that are in place until such time as they change. We have worked hard for months to get hockey back to this point where we can restart activity. At this time, MAHA is of the position that a facial covering is required while on the ice but we expect further clarification in the near future. MAHA believes this can be accomplished in a number of ways and it is up to the participant to comply with current requirements. To ignore Executive Orders could lead to hockey being shut back down before it gets going. As you know this has been a very fluid situation with changes occurring on a regular basis. Parents certainly have the right to withhold participation of the players if they feel the guidelines may cause health issues for their son or daughter. "

@Danner27. Your killing me! Lol, spill it...its not like he will know, hahah, he is no longer here.

It's really hard to answer the question not knowing what the allegation is. I advise taking the safesport course, it's free, and it tells you what needs to be reported. I have realized that some people think safe sport encompasses everything...from my little Crosby isn't getting ice time to (insert harshest actual safe sport matter here). Some things should be reported to a safesport coordinator, some to the board, some even to authorities. And If it involves a child and abuse, any person who is affiliated with the org in a position of power (coach, board, manager, safesport coordinator) needs to report it immediately. So your question, though I understand you are looking for advice, truly is just opening a flood of post that may be irrelevant not knowing the situation. (And let's face it, the people you are talking about have probably been identified by someone reading this board, or they read it themselves already) https://www.usahockey.com/safesportprogram

self righteous arrogance...,yet you agree that people should be held accountable - which was the point I was making-- you make a commitment, expect consequences of leaving. At no point did I say my loyalty is to any team, or any coach....I was simply saying if you commit to something, expect a consequence otherwise you are not teaching your kids. Call me as many names as you want...your points are all jaded by your anger. God, Family. Country.

Are you an idiot? Your post was not factual. End of story. At no point did I ever say one team wasn't looking for kids during the season. You said all season 03 &04. That is not factual. You are a complete idiot.

Clearly evident in your factual comments. (Sarcasm)

Again. That was for one team. The 16u team. The 04 team is the 15uo team. Just give up... I'm pretty sure everyone but you realized I have the facts and you are on the outside spewing rumors. Was your kid not asked to play with them? Cause that would makes sense....your lack of facts is clearly evident. Find another post to get hard on.

Again. I'm not sure how you are missing that you are spouting fake news. 03 & 04 teams would be defined as 16u and 15uo. Both teams were not looking for kids nor did both teams only have 13 skaters. Educate yourself my friend. Or live in the bubble of the Excel delusion. Either way, I'm just glad I don't know you.

This was the statement I said was not factual That is NOT factual. Having one portion of a sentence FACT and the other FALSE makes it a FALSE statement.

I am not engaging with you other than to say you need to take your meds. The way you act is a clear representation of why I'm going to sit on my high horse and teach my kid not to end up like you. He actually laughed and said "ok Boomer. You and Karen can go ahead and live your angry life".

Not naive, I just think they are throwing shade in the wrong direction due to some underlying hatred they hold...and what I know are rumors as I saw one on another thread. I was just emphasising that there are more rumors than facts. Rumors spread, most of the time facts don't spread as quickly.

That's not factual... and what am I missing?? That the premise of teaching our youth of today what commitment means is that it is only relevant if what they commit to is full? So, according to you, what I am missing is...if my kid commits to let's say volunteering with the Mighty Pens Sled Team, it's only a real commitment if they have a full team of volunteers that day, but if they don't have a full team of volunteers, he doesn't have to live up to that commitment? Nice...

I edited it already. ? the tag disappeared the first time - no need to toss insults.

Again, @Danner27 previous post...not factual... "all season long" "all ages". that is from June 10th.....ONE TEAM...

That is not factual. It is people like you, who make this board a joke. Plain and simple - that statement above is NOT A FACT and inaccurate. Now I am 100% sure to take anything you type as pretty much crap.

Fact? please share the factual information you have? Which of their teams were looking for players all year?

I know of no teams who do this. Please share if anyone does? If its a rumor (they get out, above facts most of the time), I don't want to hear it.

Well I think you missed the entire part about commitment...that being said, do I think it should be the whole season? Not my call. But your argument is not really a solid one...If you commit to a team, you in turn took a spot away from another kid. If you then quit that commitment, you start the chain reaction that causes the pro-rated fees if you join during the season. I know of no teams who pro-rate prior to hitting the ice (if you do, I guess you have done it before). I don't see what they did as a black eye, I see it as a positive...again, back to teaching our kids what commitment means and that their are consequences.

I may get bashed for this, but...what are we teaching our kids if we show it is OK to commit to a team, 15+ other individuals, and then quit for what you think may be the next best thing, leaving your team of 15+ others, hence hurting those 15+ others...with no consequences? If teams just let everyone quit with no consequences hockey in Western PA would be more of a mess than it already is. I like that it's teaching our kids responsibility, respect, and everything else you all complain about them not having on this board. Hockey and sports in general is not just about playing, it's also about molding our kids into ones who can contribute to society in a positive way for the future.... But let's all go back to talking about how we (not even our kids) were all wronged and how our kid is the next Crosby.

Probably why they did the rebranding. Props to them.

A simple click of a mouse button on a computer or your thumb on a phone on their tryout page will prove you wrong. But you go ahead thinking you know everything. I'll change my comment from crazy to.. crazy, lazy, discruntled, out of touch and misinformed.

That may be the craziest thing I have read on this board, and there are some crazy post. Also irrelevant as he coaches the 04s, not the 05s (u15 next season).

It wasn't updated During the tournament. They just updated it today... Nowhere on the site would you have known who was playing Wednesday.

Pahl and PIHL individual team websites are covered by the Penguins Foundation. https://www.sportsengine.com/solutions/articles/SportsEngine-partners-with-Penguins/

@hockey07, because the foxes are trying to play up would be the assumption. It was a scrimmage not a placement game. If you know the groupings I assume you can access the placement schedule as well?