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You watch the video close enough, there is a player that's not even dressed, helmet on but wearing shorts out in the middle of all of this!!! CJ sending his Stella Sh*ts off the bench to join in. WTF For reasons unknown to me, they continue to let this guy lead our youth. What a disgrace!

But but but but but what about the fact we all have to pay for our USA hockey numbers to cover "insurance"

So that makes it okay?

The event was non-USA hockey sanctioned, so no penalties would carry over to anything. Nowhere to file a report because there is no governing body for this tournament.

Not sure

And are they PPE this year?

There were 3 PPE kids...

Smoked mostly Preds kids and Preds coach

At first glance hard to believe this happens in a spring game, BUT looking at those rosters posted above it is clear that the 2010 esmark and venegance kids smoked the PPE 10 kids on the other team 3-0. How embarrassing for them following the 2010 PPEs losing way at Nationals. So goon it up w late illegal hits and then the fighting after. 2010 esmark and venegance kids #WINNING!

Is this the coach telling these boys to go fight at the end of a spring consolation game? Where have all the good coaches gone? Will they now add MMA private lessons to the skills lessons?

Wouldn't want to cut into profits for the tournament next weekend with the same kids? 😃

Thanks for sharing! A real exciting end to a meaningless consolation game. Interesting there don't seem to be any penalties on the score sheet for the little dust up. https://gamesheetstats.com/seasons/6330/games/1829869

I get the idea of keeping players in "house" leagues and not doing the travel stuff, but we need to remember that many of these players and parents have already done what the programs offer. Some programs only offer "Little Pens" or "Learn to Play" and then their progression is to move into their ADM/8U program which then necessitates travel for jamborees. I feel like many parents would rather travel a few times on weekends to play at a different rink than have to drive once a week to find an "in house" program if their "home" rink doesn't offer one. I am not sure if the programs that operate out of rinks with a single sheet of ice have the ability to offer much beyond the "Little Pens" to ADM progression due to ice availability.

different story

Yesterday at Frozen Pond. Check out livebarn right about the 3:30pm segment. Bench clearing brawl involving 2 local teams.

Yet another egotistical hockey coach. You can spot them a mile away by reading their bios. "Played juniors" means paid to play in some meaningless junior league. "Forgo playing NCAA" means no college program wanted him. These type of "coaches" have 2 skills, skating and self promotion. If not for that they would be middle school gym teachers or selling snake oil. But go ahead and keep giving them 80 bucks an hour to "get you to the next level" Make sure you ask them what the next level is and what percent of their clients made the next level.

I heard he was booted from his prior organization for not taking a certain kid or kids onto his team. Not sure if that's what happened but I've heard the same story from several unrelated persons.

Hotels are up, food is up, coaches are all wanting you to do private lessons. Are parents finally realizing Bob is not going to the NHL and they don’t want to travel? For the 2009, 2010 & 2011 the coaches did not stand out so why keep paying these prices maybe?

This guy is taking Esmark into the ground. At least renegades saw how toxic he was. He gets along with the kids because he is one himself and now he is bringing “friends” into the organization that act like him!

U18 Team USA will face the winner of Canada / Sweden for the gold tomorrow at 11am.

There are 8U and 10U house leagues in the close suburbs. There probably are few options the further you get from Pittsburgh, but it’s not like there are no options. I don’t understand the comment about watering down the PAHL. They have lots of divisions and if you expelled the bottom half of every roster, the top half would be homeless

Agreed 100%. There are plenty of kids that would benefit from in-house leagues. One practice per week, one game per week. 4 'seasons' per year, 8 or so games per. You can sign up for anything from 1 season to 4, like dek hockey. Depending what you want or what else is going on. Keeps the cost down. Keeps commitment down, but allows for an additional skating lesson each week if so chosen. There are so many kids and parents that just want to try out the game, or just have something fun to do, get some exercise or activity... and maybe do more serious hockey from there- or not, and continue to just play in-house in addition to baseball or whatever, don't have to extra money, whatever. A good portion of the kids will proceed to more from there. Some won't, they be happy with in-house just like adults are happy with rec league. But you'd get more people playing and less of the kids that are watering down PAHL just because if they want to casually play they have no other alternative.

Wasn’t talking HS. You of all people should know PAHL is known to have a few.

That is nonsense. Look at NA and Peters, Andrew Seiss and Chris Clackson learned from two of the best Mike Bagnato and Rick Tingle + Mort and earned a shot. PR's Jordan Yoklic just won States as did South Fayette Matt Schwartz, John Zeiler at TJ. Most of these guys have a playing pedigree or coach as assistants and earn a shot. Cody Black at Mars Chris Cerutti Penn Trafford and Mike Schall at Bethel are other Examples. Good Luck to Brian Bearley, 11 years coaching at FR and gets his chance. This list is long and there are many more examples.

Some organizations are a good ole boys club of dads year in and year out. You could be Scotty Bowman and still won’t break in with that group.