dazedandconfused

Facts that dispute their website message. That's all. If those facts make them "look bad" that has nothing to do with me posting them. You're upset that these are being posted and yet you imply that you have nothing to do with the organization and that you only know people that play there. If that's truly the case, then why are you the defender of all?

Other than the last sentence which is an opinion, did I bash them or simply provide facts?

Now remember what these teams were proposed to be and in case you've forgotten, here it is. NHAHA's Tier II Hockey Program The Pittsburgh Viper Stars Tier II select hockey program provides a fun, healthy and competitive atmosphere in which players can strive to be their best. As part of the North Hills Amateur Hockey Association, and in conjunction with the program’s Pittsburgh Vipers and Esmark Stars Tier I AAA Hockey program, the Viper Stars will bridge the gap between elite Tier I hockey and house/rec hockey. The Viper Stars program will offer Tier I level training opportunities currently not provided to most Tier II players and programs. We look to achieve these goals by providing experienced coaching, innovative training and the appropriate practice to game ratio. The focus of the Viper Stars program will be to develop elite athletes that compete at the Tier II level from the regular season to the National Championships Results thus far: U18 - PAHL A Major - winless and last place U16 - defunct in August leaving 10-12 players searching for a home with no prior warning U14 - PAHL AA Major - 2-6-1 with 24 GF and 45 GA U13 - Independent - 6th out of 6 Ranked Tier 2 2005 teams in Pittsburgh - https://www.myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?s=PA&y=2018&a=3&v=125 U12 - PAHL AA - last place U11 - PAHL A Major - 12th place/ 16 teams So the name changed but the product is basically the same as the Selects.

You sign an agreement that states and I'm paraphrasing, you will do nothing that interferes with PPE hockey. I've seen it. I've signed it.

It's not a season until the Squirts get their panties in a bunch but in all seriousness, doesn't the USA Hockey ADM LTAD (long term athlete development) use multiple sports as one of their guiding principles? And by the way, the BEST 07 is clear cut and playing on the 06 team and is pretty dominant at that age group so you can all lay that argument to rest right now.

So we've put two months plus of the season behind us so the rankings are theoretically starting to find their level. With all of the hoopla about the PPE including best players, best coaching, excel academy and blah, blah, blah why aren't these teams ranked higher across the board? U18 is behind Esmark. U16 is the team built for the Golden child and Coached by the Golden Coach yet can't break the top 10. 15's have crept into top 10 so that's a plus. 14's brought in half of a new team from all over the world and are below .500. 05's just cracked the top 20. 06 Quebec Team looks solid. 07's are a mess. 08's are below another local team and 09's are meaningless. Then you look at the AA teams and whoah, what the hell are people spending all the money for? I guess just the ability to brag to their friends.

They lost some good players to PPE but you also can't have the same coach with the same players for their whole careers. That's a major reason those players departed.

The PAHL is a member driven organization. If the associations agree/vote to have all the information available online then it has to be released. I agree that in this day and age there is no reason to keep the information hidden but I can provide you with the reason that it is. Parents, period. That's it. You can only imagine how many emails will be sent complaining that their kid didn't get his assist. If you want this information available, you need to ask your local association to bring it to the table at the next league meeting.

Tomorrow will be telling once the rankings come out. There was one big surprise in Detroit as Shadyside won the U18 division.

https://www.kreezee.com/hockey/tournament/2018-motown-classic/13103/schedule http://naphl.com/game-center/daily-schedule?date=2018-10-20&league_code=naphl18u&league=5&team=-1

Big weekend of hockey at the AAA level. Multiple events for all age groups in Michigan along with weekend #2 of travel to Minnesota for the NAPHL teams. Wednesday's rankings should begin to provide a more accurate account of local teams and it will be very interesting to see how this weekend plays out. Good luck to all the local teams traveling to these events.

Dumbest post thus far on the new version of the message board. Congratulations.

Here's a bone to chew on. Apparently the NA Varsity Coach, still stewing about the drubbing his team took at the hands of Pine Richland in the Saint Margaret's Championship game challenged PR to a "rematch" since they won't play each other again this season. Using the premise that he was simply rolling lines in the Championship Game (brilliant strategy) being what lead to the defeat, he wanted an opportunity to "play to win". Bad idea. Result was one goal worse. Second time 8-3 instead of 7-3. What a toolbag.

Oh boy, isn't that interesting? And I'll bet the RMU D1 Coach has a kid on that Foxes team. And what does the 12U Black team get? Thanks for your money girls?

A familiar name when it comes to PIHL discipline

Considering the PAHL is using the same site, it doesn't bode well for them either with the season looming less than 2 weeks away.

That's because they take every player that can skate at those age groups. They have 2 teams that are filled with players, eat up all of the unwanted ice time, struggle to find teams to play against and best of all THEY help pay the electricity bill and the salaries of the out of town boys coaches.

There aren't even any standings available to view. If they are losing their current Commissioner, look for a major train wreck this season

Sucks

I'll look at the other side of the coin. 18U - one additional team - this season is 00's and 01's while last season was 99's and 00's. I believe that 99 was a much smaller year of players in this area than 01's and 01 is definitely a strong year for skilled players 16U - last season teams did whatever they could to avoid being placed in AA so they didn't have to get their asses kicked 3 times each by Armstrong and Vipers 14U - they added a AA minor division so one would assume that the teams would roughly double

18-19 Final placements.pdf

So promoting and holding tryouts for a AAA team, charging AAA fees and then playing a local AA schedule is a good thing? Why not just play as a PAHL team?

Everyone knows how it works so if you don't like it, don't try out or play there. I'm sure some of the players actually belong on teams and others might be the Pens and friends method but everyone has the ability to choose whether or not they try out there and/or accept a position on a team.

The advertisement https://www.frozenpondarena.com/05tryouts The product https://www.myhockeyrankings.com/team_info.php?y=2018&t=16455 Am I missing something here?

Are you referring to the previous Commissioner or the current one when you say he resigned? In any event, assuming Craig Barnett is still the PIHL Commissioner and has also assumed the same role with the ACHA couldn't that be considered a good thing for HS players aspiring to continue to play in college?