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And I quote the so eloquent one........."Example 1/1,000,000 of why hockey parents in WPA are human garbage." You said it, not me. Next time before you hit "submit reply" you might want to read what you wrote first, kid.

If you think atrocious parent behavior is unique to western PA hockey parents then you don't get out much. It happens in all 50 states,$58,160 in all sports. Attend a youth baseball game in DC, a gymnastics tournament in NC , a football game in Anywhere, TX. Anabolic parents are all over. Lastly, if you use your loose label of "clowns" coaching at the Mite - PW level then you should volunteer your time to improve the process and environment. It seems like you have all of the answers and were recently voted "Dad of the Year." The last time a parent like you came up to me and questioned why his kid was "short shifted" when in fact he had a few shorter shifts due to penalties or ref whistles / line changes, I took my coaches jacket off and told him he could have it and take my place. Dude looked me straight in the eye and said "I don't know how to skate." Nuff said.

Why are you still here commenting? Practically everything you have claimed as fact in this thread has been shot down in flames by numerous individuals. Now you are saying North's roster consists mostly of older players? To my knowledge roughly 25% of the current roster consists of seniors.........in case you are math impaired, that means 75% of the roster are underclassmen. How in the hell does 25% = most? Just stop bro - this is getting embarrassing.

I think we need to compare apple to apples here........how long has Central had a program? North is in its 3rd year of existence since it went dormant years ago and no, they did not have a Varsity team last year. As with all MS teams, if kids live in a district where their school does not have a MS team they are free to play elsewhere. Last years North MS program / results were from numerous players that in fact, did not end up attending North but wanted to play hockey. It was a one and done event. I noticed you did not list last years Tier 3 JV standings - North won one playoff game then lost in the second round. This years team has at least four seniors, maybe more. If you think a team that wins one playoff game the prior year is sandbagging to stay in Tier 3 then you are as clueless as some of the others posting here. A prior post indicated there were only two Excel kids on this years JV roster and both are local kids that were not recruited from out of state. Sure doesn't sound like a program being dominated by a bunch of Excel kids.

Then you must know more about it than I do. I was unaware of any kids that were recruited outside of the western PA area that were brought in to take part in Excel and also play for the school. I was under the impression the current crop of Excel players on the team were local kids.

Your comment does not make any sense. My son's team played them earlier this year and he told me there is no influx of Excel kids on their current roster. So if that is the case, how could players that "began as middle schoolers be sat out of games to make room for the Excel superstars?"

If you want your son to attend a camp where he spends the week in a college dorm with a positive hockey experience, good food, camaraderie then Kent State is a good choice. My oldest son attended this camp a few years ago and enjoyed it, but felt he did not improve his game very much and it was more about being away from home for a week and having fun. If you want your son to take part in a more hockey centric camp, there are better choices out there. Yuri has a weekly camp at Baeirl that includes on / off ice training and meals from a local Italian restaurant. Yuri can be a ball buster, but if you want your son to attend a camp that is all about hockey at a competitive pace with skill development etc this may be for you. http://www.interelhockeyacademy.com

No, but I hear many of the anabolic dads on this thread are attending a heated contest between super talented U-6's this weekend.

This comment here sums it all up. Well done G.O.A.T. You confirmed all that I have said about the anabolic hockey dads out there. Read the entire thread and start at the beginning - you will then see how this discussion has evolved from simple talk about a U10 game to where it is now, that of idiotic proportions. I hear there is a killer U6 game at UPMC this weekend. They cannot tie their own skates yet and just got out of diapers, but the kids are as fast as the wind.........I assume you will be there scouting talent? LOL

Nothing for me to add here - well done Saucey.

Leave it to a bunch of anabolic dads to spend time here talking about their U10 and who has the best team, who has the speed players, who has the stick handlers........good gravy.

The idiocy in this thread talking about Squirt level kids and their "ability level" is astounding. And that scouts attend games at this level? I question the hockey IQ of western Pennsylvanian's but also recognizing most cannot be this ill informed or delusional...........or can they??????

08's? Really? I heard there was a killer group of 2014's playing stick time together last weekend and one was nicknamed "mini-Sid."

This way parents can brag to their friends that their little Johnny plays AA hockey. Also, parent / coaches get to do the same thing. Don't fault the players, it is all on the adults.

We need something else to complain about besides SportsEngine. It is kinda boring ripping a website......

It’s so great to see games “in progress” or with no scores at all from games played days ago. What a disaster.

And I thought Pointstreak sucked........

It’s hard to tell if some of the PAHL teams are BY teams.....Vengeance won, NP PW1 tied and NP PW2 won. Didn’t see any of the games so I don’t know outside of the score, who outplayed who. https://www.pittsburghpenguinselite.com/game/show/22141012 https://www.pittsburghpenguinselite.com/game/show/22772485 https://www.pittsburghpenguinselite.com/game/show/22141010

I have noticed some of the Black PPE teams have lost games to PAHL teams - some to team that are not the #1 team from the organization. I have no skin in the game but if I were one of the parents on a Black team losing to a PAHL team I would not be too happy.

I believe appeals to PIHL were due this past Sunday.

Horrible comes to mind........some games have stats, some zero. The app sucks worse than the website.

I agree with you on the fees part - why pay AAA fees for a AA level schedule? Because the parents can now tell their friends that little Johnny plays an independent schedule with some AAA teams sprinkled in, as PAHL is clearly beneath them.

18-19 Final placements.pdf

Renegades 07 BY team tied NP - 2 U-12 team today 2-2.

NP is Wildcats for sure, so I assume "North Hills" is Viper Stars.