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I think more than one thing can be true here. Do teams typically get screwed over at Belmont? - Yes Was Armstrong the strongest 18AA PAHL team by a good margin? - Yes

Based on that, MHR is pretty spot on.

Huh, how about that? The team that was too good for Western PA hockey wasn't the best team in Western PA? Mid-State will provide a fine representation at Nationals.

Sorry, I wasn't suggesting PPE was the team deserving of an at large bid. I was just saying it makes sense to have the at large bid option for exceptional teams that are upset. Or two elite teams in the same district. The 18u AAA division was very balanced. Atleast half the teams had a legitimate chance to win it. But perhaps it was just balanced mediocrity compared to the rest of the country.

I would Argue with you here that they got beat by another independent team but it looks like they lost to the steel City ice renegades.

Ouch

At 14U, the Icemen team that was ranked 3rd in the country didn't even make the championship game

they did win it all at ice castle,Armstrong out coached and outplayed lebo and every team there.

Honestly to me that's a very successful season.

armstrong was the best all season, Lee has them playing hard nosed physical hockey and these boys have skills too.

I think that there’s two different understanding of the title “MidAms” on this thread. One is the MidAm tournament that leads directly into Nationals. Tier 1 and Tier 2. The other is individual tryouts for MidAms that lead to the National Developmental Team. While scrolling through this thread it’s challenging to follow along. Different interpretations by a lot of people. With that said. Armstrong 18U AA wins today against Mt Lebanon 18U AA 5-2 (empty net goal) to move on to nationals. The competition at by all of the representative PAHL teams was outstanding, in my opinion. This season was one of the best in terms of competitive balance by the top 5-6 teams in AA as I can recall. It’s a shame that only one PAHL team gets to go on to nationals. This league was probably as deep as its ever been. Best of luck to the PAHL 18U AA Champions— Armstrong Arrows as they move on to USA Nationals in Delmont, PA.

Yes, I remember when I first learned about the joint school in Indianapolis. But, it looks like they are about to abruptly end the school. They still can’t get along, I guess 🤷🏼‍♂️ https://fox59.com/news/indiana-university-and-purdue-officially-are-set-to-end-iupui-next-summer/#:~:text=IUPUI will officially end on,businesses and communities of Indianapolis.

You should have tried the the famous combo campus of IUPUI. https://www.iupui.edu/index.html

I appreciate what you’re saying. I understand that there could potentially be a couple of unruly parents who complain. That’s true…but it’s already true. There’s already plenty of parents complaining to the coaches (and organizational board members) about playing time, line mates, position changes, defensive pairings, offensive attack schemes, breakouts, power play and PK theories, goaltending matchups, uniform color combinations, even injury severity scale and concussion evaluations, etc. There’s also people complaining about how some rinks have their own referees that prefer to dish out their home cooking differently to their guests. There’s always going to be complaints from parents. It’s always happened. The question I have: What happens when we’re at the crossroads where the parents start complaining about how Fair Play Points are tabulated and the evidence of their existence? Are we expecting everyone to accept the assumption that whomever is keeping track of the Fair Play Points number at every league game is going to be 100% accurate all season? How can you know that for certain? I’m not sure about everyone else, but, sometimes I like to count/add things up on my own. Without having someone tell me that it is what they say it is. All I’m saying is that there’s got to be some transparency here. I’m not talking about the 10U, or 12U, or even the 14U age groups and publishing all of their statistics. I’m only suggesting that the way that the PAHL has been reactionary in removing game sheets (which also include the individual player and team penalty minutes) is counterintuitive to even what “Fair” means. Remember, these become more important as the levels of play become more competitive and the talent pool of distinguishing characteristics thins out. It might be more difficult for a goal scorer to stand out during a AAA/Jr tryout that consists of 100 kids and only gets few shifts here and there with kids that he’s never played with. But, if he has the recent (and somewhat documented) history that shows he’s a goal-scorer (or playmaker, or whatever) from a competitive league…that will demonstrate more of an overall (and helpful picture) than the snapshot of a tryout where they’re trying to even figure out what position everyone is playing on their team. My bottom line is: I hope that the PAHL does an internal evaluation and compare it with best practices that other leagues have been using for a while.

People who are so fascinated and caught up in stats are almost 100% of the time the ones living vicariously through their kids because they NEVER accomplished anything in their athletic lifetime.

The dream is over. UNLV 5 PITT 1.