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Spot on. You can't hide video--- not good. Under no circumstances should a player EVER touch a fan, let alone enter the stands. The coaches should always be the last ones off the ice and be watching their teams. And to go a step further, the Shaler players should have immediately grabbed their own player the moment he stepped towards the fans.

Can you post the alternative camera angle- from the stationary camera view? This one is the "follow view", and give us a little more time on the before and after. Thanks!

Please post the entire clip for those of us who don't have livebarn. thx

Which teams to be exact?

Absolute tragedy. My son was one of his roommates and the whole team is devastated. The team is going by bus to his viewing on Sunday and to his memorial service in Hamburg, PA (past Harrisburg). Please donate to his scholarship fund (link was posted above) if you can. Branson was a really good person and it's super hard to have this happen to the hockey community.

Good luck on the current parking situation. "No on street parking". Which means a multi-block walk in the winter. I think parking should have been addressed FIRST, not as an afterthought.

Question about the incident - perhaps I missed this in an earlier post. Is there any accountability for the refs in all of this? If the goalie can hear the chants, the refs certainly can. I haven't seen a single quote from the referees from the game, on this subject. Will the PIHL have anything to say to the refs (or the refs face any sanctions) about why they didn't stop the game and handle this immediately? The whole incident could have been vastly different had this been dealt with mid-game, rather than letting the whole thing transpire and blow up on social media and in the forum.

It is also not surprising at all this happened at Armstrong. Going way back (nearly 12 years), the environment has been very chippy at the least at Belmont. The issues our teams (mostly PAHL AA level) had over the years were with both PAHL and PIHL teams, as also mentioned by other people here. But nothing ever happened and Armstrong is still Armstrong and these incidents will continue to happen. Most recently last season we had several run-ins with Armstrong at their rink, even involving one of their players punching one of our players while they were leaving the ice after the game. Refs were made aware of it, and there were witnesses, but again, nothing ever happened. No matter which org we played for, when we went to Belmont we'd tell our players to keep your heads on a swivel as multiple times in that building we had players receive head-hits and be knocked out of games. I'd say that happened 2-3 times in the last 2 years we played games there. Never one discipline hearing that I was aware of for the kids who committed the fouls. Seems like the older the teams get the more chippy and mouthy the players and coaches are. To make matters worse, one of their main people at Armstrong also sits on the Disciplinary Committee for PAHL and doles out punishments to teams that play his team(!) ** note: that was last season. Don't know if they're still on that committee.

Thank goodness our family is out of PAHL & PIHL hockey. We had problems mostly at 18uAA with both of those refs, and while they both are very veteran refs, they can get too much into the game themselves and off the tracks. It's no surprise to me that these 2 names were associated with the game in question. The worst part of this is Trego is either on or attends disciplinary hearings and for him to ignore this going on while he is calling the game is unacceptable. I agree with the other posters that the video of this game should go to Safesport and bypass the PIHL. I hope the parent of that goalie takes action.

If the West (or Central, for that matter) is going to ever be able to compete with the South (philly), they need to pick a team right after Midams, practice and do at least 1 summer tourney before playing at KSG. The South continually has high level players in the boys' brackets, and practically no AAA players play for West or Central, thus making it a difficult task right out of the gate. I enjoy the KSG concept but it needs refinement - especially a playoff game. 3 games is too little.

Sorry @Lifelongbender I had to blow off some steam LOL.

So how's the new owners working out at these rinks? How have the ice rates changed? (I have no stake in this, just curious!)

The mythology of masks (and this "vaccine") is ridiculous. Our entire family got COVID back in January 2020. None of us got the Vaccine this year, nor do we plan to do so. However, the government is pushing this MYTH that you must get the prick even if you have had COVID. No thank you. I won't patronize anywhere that forces me to show proof of vax, when I already have the God Given antibodies in me. If you're that damn concerned about catching coof, don't go out in public. Masks AREN'T going to help unless you are practically wearing a mustard-gas preventing gas mask. So glad I no longer have kids in youth hockey. This is all BS.

I was really pulling for the 19s but they lost to a team they had beat in the round Robins…

That their own website doesn't have this info, and you have to go to Elite Prospects says it all. Glad you're making excuses for PPE.

Show me where their hometowns are listed. They aren't and there's a reason for that. My feelings aren't hurt. My daughter got the same opportunities in college as most of her former PPE teammates, so I am not shedding any tears, smarty-pants.

agree fully, but I think Esmark usually has more local kids on their rosters each year.

To an extent, PPE is a joke because they import kids from out of the area. Several years ago there was supposed to be a rule where they would only have a few out of town kids, but that rule went out the window when winning became the sole objective. So in my mind they really don't do a whole lot for true "local" kids. I know a number of local kids who went to Cleveland, Maryland, Culver and played there rather than PPE. One of our kids lost their spot on PPE when they turned down playing for SSA (because we couldn't afford $25k for high school). All the kids who played (female) SSA also never got cut from PPE. There's a reason why they make the rosters hard to find for PPE and never have any BIOs for the kids, it's because most of the kids nowadays are from out of Western PA.

At that age play as much as possible. Playing with the boys up through 14’s is what made my daughter a good player.

I always liked for the tryouts to be soon after the league playoffs (PAHL, etc.), rather than in the middle of May, June, etc. The kids are fully ready for a tryout right after the season, instead of throwing on skates for the first time in weeks then going for a tryout. We're all done with youth hockey so I don't have to deal with this anymore LOL.

Congrats to Baldwin

The online schedule/stats wasn't online so I couldn't find them either...

I could go on and on about this topic, but I don't want to write a book about this (yet). PPE has it's favorites and frankly you're either a favorite of them or they drop you like a lead balloon. It doesn't always have to do with talent either. A lot is who they can pull from other AAA teams. A while back an Ohio AAA team folded and they "invited" their star players to come to PPE tryouts and then promptly cut several local girls in lieu of out of towners. This was during a time period where they said their rules were only X number of players could be from out of town. When in fact 66% of the team was 1-10 hour drive away. So the PPE name is more a moniker as they don't really do a lot to support or grow local kids, as they'd just as soon grab the best player from Detroit over a Pittsburgh kid. They also love parents who have deep pockets or financial pull (pilots, real estate office owners, CEO's), as those kids seem to make teams year after year while kids to "average parents" don't stick around (unless you are a total stud).

^^^ this 100%

I believe that was him. Looks a lot like him, so it probably was him. Good catch.