carroll81 Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 You can follow it directly at the following link: https://www.flyers-cup.org/
Pa Hockey Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 AAA Final LaSalle vs Holy Ghost Prep A Final West Chester East vs Hershey
Pa Hockey Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 LaSalle 2 HGP 1 OT Pennsbury 5 Pennridge 3
BeaverFalls Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 Can you share with us the rules differences between the two sides of the state? I had heard the Eastern side has a distinct advantage in eligibility and player pool.
sarampage Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, BeaverFalls said: Can you share with us the rules differences between the two sides of the state? I had heard the Eastern side has a distinct advantage in eligibility and player pool. For AAA, all the schools are Private so they always have an advantage. The LaSalle team that won a few years ago against NA had 3 future NCAA D1 players with one (Lipkin) being drafted by the Coyotes and playing World Juniors for Team USA this year. 1
Pa Hockey Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 9 hours ago, BeaverFalls said: Can you share with us the rules differences between the two sides of the state? I had heard the Eastern side has a distinct advantage in eligibility and player pool. All Schools play under the same rules. The Alignment for Flyers Cup is Private Schools play AAA and AA (700 + PIAA) and A (700 - PIAA) is based on Enrollment. PIHL uses competitive formula. All Players Eligibility is by choice to play or not for the school they attend
Pa Hockey Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 11:00am A - West Chester vs Kiski 2:00pm AA - Pennsbury vs South Fayette 5:00pm AAA- LaSalle vs Peters Twp $14.00 per ticket online $15.00 at the door (if tickets are still available) $35.00 Pass to watch all Three Games
BeaverFalls Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Pa Hockey said: All Schools play under the same rules. The Alignment for Flyers Cup is Private Schools play AAA and AA (700 + PIAA) and A (700 - PIAA) is based on Enrollment. PIHL uses competitive formula. All Players Eligibility is by choice to play or not for the school they attend Can you elaborate on the choice they play for part? I’m just trying to figure it out in the state. Thanks!
BeaverFalls Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, BeaverFalls said: Can you elaborate on the choice they play for part? I’m just trying to figure it out in the state. Thanks! Shouldn’t the eastern part of the state be basically open class based on that?
Pa Hockey Posted March 23, 2023 Author Posted March 23, 2023 15 hours ago, BeaverFalls said: Can you elaborate on the choice they play for part? I’m just trying to figure it out in the state. Thanks! They play club AAA or AA and for their school
carroll81 Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 18 hours ago, BeaverFalls said: Shouldn’t the eastern part of the state be basically open class based on that? Put another way... AAA is open boundary schools (i.e. private and parochial schools where students do not have to live in a specific area to attend) AA and A are public schools districts where you have to live in the school district and attend the public school. The split between AA and A is based on male student enrollment, just like the PIAA uses.
Spear and Magic Helmet Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 4 hours ago, carroll81 said: Put another way... AAA is open boundary schools (i.e. private and parochial schools where students do not have to live in a specific area to attend) AA and A are public schools districts where you have to live in the school district and attend the public school. The split between AA and A is based on male student enrollment, just like the PIAA uses. Do any public schools play in AAA these days?
Icebucket Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 5 hours ago, carroll81 said: Put another way... AAA is open boundary schools (i.e. private and parochial schools where students do not have to live in a specific area to attend) AA and A are public schools districts where you have to live in the school district and attend the public school. The split between AA and A is based on male student enrollment, just like the PIAA uses. Would be interesting to look at the numbers to see where some of the Western PA schools would fall if they were in the east. I'd think a handful of AAA schools here would land in single A over there. 1
Happy Hockey Fan Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Icebucket said: Would be interesting to look at the numbers to see where some of the Western PA schools would fall if they were in the east. I'd think a handful of AAA schools here would land in single A over there. You are correct. Their Single A schools are very big schools. I would venture to say that the west may never win the single A title again because they don’t move teams up and down like here in the west. Bayard Rustin won 6 or 8 straight state titles and are still a single A school. That would never happen here because the school would be moved up AA probably after their first state championship.
carroll81 Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 6 hours ago, Spear and Magic Helmet said: Do any public schools play in AAA these days? Actually, Perk Valley played in the AAA Flyers Cup this year because they were not pure but were strong enough to compete (i.e. they had 2 players from another school district that did not have a team). I don't think they played any AAA teams during the regular season. The other thing to note is that teams here in the East are not in leagues broken down by AAA/AA/A, at least in the Inter-County. For the most part they are broken into conferences that are based on their PIAA leagues, regardless of school size. For example, ChesMont is the West Chester schools, the Downingtown schools, Unionville and Avon Grove. Some of those schools are A and some are AA. They play each other, as well as non-conference games. Then they get placed for Flyers Cup based on their AA or A size. 1
Pa Hockey Posted April 1, 2023 Author Posted April 1, 2023 EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA FLYERS CUP CHAMPIONS YEAR FLYERS CUP AAA FLYERS CUP AA FLYERS CUP A 1980 1 ARCHBISHOP CARROLL (ICSHL) - - 1981 2 ARCHBISHOP CARROLL (ICSHL) - - 1982 3 GERMANTOWN ACADEMY (SHSHL) - - 1983 4 GERMANTOWN ACADEMY (SHSHL) - - 1984 5 ARCHBISHOP RYAN (LBCSHL) - - 1985 6 CHERRY HILL EAST (SHSHL) - - 1986 7 CONESTOGA (ICSHL) - - 1987 8 MALVERN PREP (EHSHL) - - 1988 9 COUNCIL ROCK (SHSHL) - - 1989 10 WILLIAM TENNENT (NHSHL) - - 1990 11 MALVERN PREP (EHSHL) - - 1991 12 COUNCIL ROCK (SHSHL) GERMANTOWN ACADEMY (SHSHL) MONSIGNOR BONNER (EHSHL) 1992 13 MONSIGNOR BONNER (EHSHL) COUNCIL ROCK (SHSHL) HAVERFORD (EHSHL) 1993 14 MONSIGNOR BONNER (EHSHL) FATHER JUDGE (LBCSHL) PENNSBURY (LBCSHL) 1994 15 GERMANTOWN ACADEMY (SHSHL) CONWELL-EGAN (LBCSHL) WASHINGTON TWP (SJHSHL) 1995 16 GERMANTOWN ACADEMY (SHSHL) CONWELL-EGAN (LBCSHL) UNIONVILLE (ICSHL) 1996 17 LASALLE (ICSHL) UPPER DARBY (EHSHL) ST PIUS X (ICSHL) 1997 18 MALVERN PREP (ICSHL) CONESTOGA (ICSHL) CHELTENHAM (SHSHL) 1998 19 LASALLE (ICSHL) UNIONVILLE (ICSHL) GARNET VALLEY (ICSHL) 1999 20 CONWELL-EGAN (LBCSHL) LASALLE II (ICSHL) ARCHBISHOP RYAN (LBCSHL) 2000 21 FATHER JUDGE (LBCSHL) ARCHBISHOP CARROLL (ICSHL) PENNSBURY (LBCSHL) 2001 22 MALVERN PREP (ICSHL) ARCHBISHOP CARROLL (ICSHL) SPRINGFIELD (EHSHL) 2002 23 MALVERN PREP (ICSHL) ARCHBISHOP CARROLL (ICSHL) RADNOR (ICSHL) 2003 24 MALVERN PREP (ICSHL) HOLY GHOST PREP (LBCSHL) RADNOR (ICSHL) 2004 25 MALVERN PREP (ICSHL) ARCHBISHOP CARROLL (ICSHL) RADNOR (ICSHL) 2005 26 MALVERN PREP (ICSHL) HAVERFORD (EHSHL) PENNCREST (ICSHL) 2006 27 CARDINAL O'HARA (EHSHL) HAVERFORD (EHSHL) PENNCREST (ICSHL) 2007 28 HOLY GHOST PREP (LBCSHL) HAVERFORD (EHSHL) WEST CHESTER HENDERSON (ICSHL) 2008 29 LASALLE (ICSHL) CONESTOGA (ICSHL) WEST CHESTER EAST (ICSHL) 2009 30 LASALLE (ICSHL) COUNCIL ROCK SOUTH (SHSHL) BAYARD RUSTIN (ICSHL) 2010 31 CARDINAL O'HARA (ICSHL) DOWNINGTOWN EAST (ICSHL) BAYARD RUSTIN (ICSHL) 2011 32 LASALLE (ICSHL) COUNCIL ROCK SOUTH (SHSHL) SPRINGFIELD (ICSHL) 2012 33 LASALLE (ICSHL) COUNCIL ROCK SOUTH (SHSHL) BAYARD RUSTIN (ICSHL) 2013 34 LASALLE (ICSHL) CHEROKEE (SJSHL) WEST CHESTER EAST (ICSHL) 2014 35 LASALLE (ICSHL) CENTRAL BUCKS SOUTH (SHSHL) BAYARD RUSTIN (ICSHL) 2015 36 HOLY GHOST PREP (ICSHL) DOWNINGTOWN EAST (ICSHL) BAYARD RUSTIN (ICSHL) 2016 37 LASALLE (ICSHL) CENTRAL BUCKS SOUTH (SHSHL) BAYARD RUSTIN (ICSHL) 2017 38 HOLY GHOST PREP (ICSHL) DOWNINGTOWN EAST (ICSHL) BAYARD RUSTIN (ICSHL) 2018 39 ST JOSEPH'S PREP (APAC) DOWNINGTOWN EAST (ICSHL) BAYARD RUSTIN (ICSHL) 2019 40 LASALLE (APAC) DOWNINGTOWN EAST (ICSHL) BAYARD RUSTIN (ICSHL) 2020 41 2021 42 MALVERN PREP (APAC) HAVERFORD (ICSHL) WEST CHESTER EAST (ICSHL) 2022 43 MALVERN PREP (APAC) PENNRIDGE (SHSHL) WEST CHESTER EAST (ICSHL) 2023 44 LASALLE (APAC) PENNSBURY (SHSHL) WEST CHESTER EAST (ICSHL)
SM14 Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 Perkiomen Valley was AAA because they entered into a PIAA compliant co-op (one school less than 300 male enrollment number) with an open enrollment school. AA-A split is determined by enrollment. All eligible schools are listed. A natural break point is selected somewhere near the halfway point of number of schools. The split for the next two years is done at 615. Here are the schools on ether side of that. OJR is smallest AA School and CR North is largest A school. Harry S Truman 1 AA 665 Quakertown Community 1 AA 663 Owen J Roberts 1 AA 631 Council Rock North 1 AA 597 William Tennent 1 AA 573 Garnet Valley 1 AA 566
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