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  1. Of all the places...... they've been the tightest on restrictions and someone turned them in? So many people must have so little joy in their lives that this is how they find happiness? Such a sad state this country is in.
    9 points
  2. The mythology of masks (and this "vaccine") is ridiculous. Our entire family got COVID back in January 2020. None of us got the Vaccine this year, nor do we plan to do so. However, the government is pushing this MYTH that you must get the prick even if you have had COVID. No thank you. I won't patronize anywhere that forces me to show proof of vax, when I already have the God Given antibodies in me. If you're that damn concerned about catching coof, don't go out in public. Masks AREN'T going to help unless you are practically wearing a mustard-gas preventing gas mask. So glad I no longer have kids in youth hockey. This is all BS.
    8 points
  3. Can we please reserve talk about calling ANY U12 or below team a "powerhouse" until they at least reach U14 and checking comes into play?
    7 points
  4. Hello all, @forbin has stepped up and volunteered to be a moderator. Forbin has a good track record on the forum so I figured I'd kick the tires and see how it goes. Just don't let him know he's on double-secret probation as I evaluate his moderation skills. 😉 In the mean time feel free to thank him for stepping up to help the hockey community. PB
    7 points
  5. I'm dreaming of adult discussion...that doesn't involve name calling or COVID 19. I miss hockey....and slamming PPE. .and arguing whose squirt is going pro....
    7 points
  6. Congratulations to 2021 SCS Girls 14U - Bronze Medal 16U - Silver Medal 19U - Bronze Medal
    6 points
  7. These players are responsible for their actions. Parents fighting c'mon man build back better! MIDAM needs to change the format of the tournament. Once your eliminated no more games... Nothing to play for, nothing to lose!
    6 points
  8. This. People playing in these AAA teams will tell you that they are doing it because of the superior coaching, more ice time blah blah blah. What dropthepuck just said. But then when it becomes clear that their kid isn't going anywhere....their kid either quits hockey entirely or wanders back to AA. Totally doing it because they think their kid is going somewhere. Or they say they didn't want to crush their kid's dreams. Suddenly, when they return, it's ok 'just to play for fun.' Shoot, it was always ok to just play for fun. This scenario plays out over and over. Everyone wants to think their kid is special. Many kids will say when they are little that they want to play in the NFL or NHL. I never told my kid he couldn't go pro when he was ten expressing this. I never 'crushed his dreams' by telling him no directly. (A frequent complaint expressed on this board by the coaches expressing frustration when they can't talk a parent of a kid they are trying to recruit to their 'AAA' program.) But I also know the facts and didn't go chasing down these things. He didn't know about faux AAA teams. We just didn't go there with him. He missed out on nothing. And then when he hit high school he figured it out on his own. Summer leagues, etc when he would see some of these 'AAA' players. See the rankings. He has actually told us thank you for not getting caught up in that. He doesn't want to travel to Texas, etc to play these crazy tournaments. He isn't bitter thinking we stomped on his dreams. There is so much you have to have to make college or the NHL. Natural athlete. Work ethic and drive. Luck. Connections. Money. People whose kid never made a AA team in PAHL go on these AAA teams. That's just crazy to me. They just don't want to listen to people who may know something. 'Don't tell my kid he can't do it.' Ok, have fun. My kid can also go play club hockey somewhere if he wants while playing PAHL and school hockey. And we are amused by the return of all the players who left PAHL at peewee or whatever, tired of spending the money and time now that it is clear their kid is not going to be playing D1 or D3. So yeah, it wasn't about the coaching or dry land training or whatever we heard when they left. In our market, parents drive what is good for development. But most of them don't know squat about hockey or the makeup of hockey in our area. We have BY teams not because people who know hockey think this is a good way to develop players around here. We have it because someone sold it to parents not wanting to disappoint their kids. They sold it because they want their kid playing on a high level team. Or to hand pick players. Or to make mioney for themselves. Or because they think their kid is going D1 if they do this. And slowly, it became hard to attract people to your program if you don't offer it. Almost all the big programs offer a 'AAA' and BY option. Because parents demand it. When youth sports became all about elite options, adults screwed up sports for kids. Big time. The biggest loss to me is the kid who quits playing. He or she lost their love of the game, because playing was all tied up with making it. Or got burned out. Anything below that AAA option is not worth playing. Why? Sports are important. They teach important life lessons where the worst thing that can happen to you as you are learning these lessons is a lost game. Friendships that last a lifetime. Learn to compete. Work. Discipline. Good sportsmanship. How to fail. How to win. Tie it all up with being 'elite' and I think kids and the sport suffer. This sport is already so expensive. It keeps getting more expensive. The sacrifices asked from families are high. You drive people into this other level of hockey that requires even more money and time, on a false premise....that is good how? You connect success in sports to a scholarship or whatever, when that doesn't happen and the kid exits the sport entirely....you missed what is valuable about playing sports in the first place. I'm glad to see those kids return if they do. But boy, it would have been nice to continue playing with them all along. So when I hear...why do you care where I spend money and play...I care because the system as a whole suffers when adults overreach. My kid may have had better competition where he plays, without being told you can find that if you come play all over the US. (And not true when many of these teams lose A LOT.) High school hockey could be a higher level of compete. I don't think these 'AAA' programs help hockey in Western Pa. Those promises that coach made to you and your kid....they don't materialize.
    6 points
  9. After 6 months of searching, I've finally cracked the case! The hours of logging into Live Barn cameras across the country only to be blocked by cunning ice rink operators. Or worse yet watching video trying to determine what teams are actually on the ice. Looking for any clues...helmet stickers, practice socks, custom gloves. You made it so difficult with your nondescript jerseys. But here in this one little thread on this one little message board the truth of the 12 year old outlaws is revealed! You thought you could elude the Covid Police by only posting 2 out of 5 games played in the far off land of Florida? But we have been scouring the internet for you scofflaws! Examining the rating site, waiting for someone to break! We knew it was only a matter of time before some parent longing to brag about their 12 year olds success would post some scores! And those of you that thought you were so clever sneaking a second parent into games we are coming for you next.
    6 points
  10. I have been around for a long time and seen this conversation play out over and over. Mostly in rink lobbies and now on this message board. I have found it best to keep my mouth shut and let people experience the process and learn for themselves. Maybe I can share a couple things that will help with that process. 1. Non checking is not real hockey. Period. I can't tell you how many players I've seen that are top 5 AAA peewees and by 2nd year bantam are average AA players. Talking about a peewee team being top 5 is no different than talking about your kids roller hockey team being top 5. 2. There hasn't been a group of western PA kids being ranked top 5 in Bantam or Midget in a long time. Lets use the Pens u16 this year as an example. Really good team. 10 kids from PA, 3 from Canada, 3 from Illinois, 1 from Arizona, Indiana, Delaware, and Ohio. The top kids migrate to certain clubs for the exposure. New Jersey u16 has a similar situation. Its common amongst top 5 teams. So even if you are on one of these teams at peewee there's a 50/50 chance you wont be there when it matters. So u16 this year is 04's. Do you think the 04 parents that paid into that team since squirts and got cut when it mattered are still hanging out at the water cooler at work. No, they now realize they've made fools of themselves pounding their chests over the years about how great their kids were. Calm down a little and make sure your kid is having fun. That's all.
    6 points
  11. Commendable! 27 posts in a row not centered on COVID-19. By the way, Cranberry is just as drug infested as New Kensington, they just hide it better. Well except the time that one PPE kid got busted. In the rink. 😕
    6 points
  12. If you child wants to start playing hockey I would get him or her into an ADM program this season. No reason to do another learn to play session it just puts of his or her development a season. The reason I say this is that most ADM programs are 2 days a week and at the end of the day your child has to get on the ice to start developing. At this point, I don’t think you can go wrong with any of the 3 programs. Pick one that fits your schedule and has a spot for you. At the end of the season you can reevaluate the situation. The only thing that can hinder your player’s development is if you wind up in a situation where he or she isn’t having fun. And the Jamborees were fun for the kids. To the kids they seem like a big deal.
    6 points
  13. What started as a weak topic (Icemen - why? should really be “who cares?”) actually turned into a decent discussion. Now it’s devolved into basically insinuating that other posters are pedophiles and we have others liking that. You’re the ones who are sick minded.
    6 points
  14. ENOUGH with the COVID! There were games this weekend. Anyone want to talk hockey?
    6 points
  15. I know I have a call in with the PIHL this week, I hope to have some official answers. I do know that we are not going to be at as many games (PittsburghHockeyDigest) for obvious reasons, but are offering broadcasting again and pre-determined coverage. I know some of last years broadcasts weren’t very high quality and left a lot to be desired, but I’ve worked on fixing things in the off-season. I was learning as I went and it showed. Hopefully they translate to a better product.
    6 points
  16. You can have a 50-50 battle at the blue line, or you can have a 50-50 battle behind the opponents' goal line. If you want to see more offense and more scoring and just as much creativity, let them have the battle behind the goal line. The new offsides rule forces a puck carrier at the blue line to turn back and re-group into traffic. On occasion I have seen as many as 8 or 9 skaters between the blue and the red line because of the turn back. Yes some creativity will be required to keep possession. But the rule forces more play and more time spent in the neutral zone with high traffic. Is this really what we want to see and where we want to play the game?
    5 points
  17. At this point I'm just waiting for the EXCEL Academy Daycare to pop up. A competitive environment for your hockey minded infant/toddler ages 18m-4 years. The sad thing is that I personally know of a couple parents that would be all over it.
    5 points
  18. I agree. That’s a real pandemic rn. People treating each other like 💩.
    5 points
  19. Dude, I am vaxxed. I am tired of people being crappy to each other, however, and wishing death on someone falls into that category. Tired of it all.
    5 points
  20. Good luck with whatever you decide to do, just know EVERY organization has good and bad, and no organization is free of the political bullshit that goes on - no matter what they or anyone else tells you.
    5 points
  21. Which team specifically? From an organizational stand point they are the favoritism type. The kids that get the best looks and ice time are the ones who’s parents worship at the alter. They are known to play loose and fast with the rules, have parents manipulate game clocks, argue with refs, fight in the stands, and tout a higher level of play than what they can produce. My experience with them both have being involved at one point to playing against/coaching against them and being a visiting parent dates back to 2004 and ranges from mites to midgets. It’s seems like it’s the same stuff every year. Coaching wise they have some good coaches in their system, they also have some that don’t mind having their palms greased to give a kid some extra ice time. Lately my experience with their younger teams (mites and squirts) has been mostly positive, aside from the occasional too intense mite parents which you’ll find everywhere.
    5 points
  22. I hate to be the pessimistic a$$hole here but none of this will matter because nobody will show up for the games and the program wont get the continued funding it needs and will be shut down again. Everyone wants to be a keyboard warrior for the program but when it comes to actually supporting the teams and showing up to the games, that's too much of an inconvenience. Or they come back and the arena is packed every night and they win the NCAA championship and Disney makes a movie about it.
    5 points
  23. Quad, I see that we basically agree..... I do get wound up over the folks here constantly putting down a major part of the backbone of youth hockey - "Dad\Parent Coaches". Pre ADM a lot of them simply stepped up when their kid was a mite or mini-mite simply because they needed a coach to have a team and learned as much as they could on the job. Some got good and other not so much. Over the last 40 odd years I've been a dad coach as well as a paid non-dad coach (long before I was a dad) and I've seen the full range of coaches from parent coaches to paid former NHLers. Some are great tacticians and game managers that could not teach the skills or the game to save their lives. Some of these were smart enough to fill out the coaching staff with coaches that could teach... others had egos that were too big and the kids suffered because of it. Some were very competent in both teaching and game management. These coaches were usually smart enough to choose assistants that filled roles and complemented each other. I've seen parent coaches that could not stand on skates but knew the game. They could communicate with the kids, teach the game, and sometimes manage the bench too. Others could teach the skills but had the hockey sense of a rock....... The community likes to put a saddle on the officials and ride them hard, but having lived my life on both sides of the boards I have to say that the USAH Officials education program is far and away better than the coaching program..... USAH coaching program is set up to force funnel coaches to level 4 on a time frame and in my opinion doesn't teach them a damn thing along the way. Oh the seminars have interesting speakers, but I don't recall seeing anything like some of the in depth discussion we had during upper level ref seminars. From the first seminar they should have discussions on how to teach each age group. There should be discussions of various drills that will teach skills and game situations. Discussions on how to set up practice plans to maximize ice use and avoid standing around. Discussions on setting up practice plans to best utilize full and half ice. By the time a coach gets to level 4 they should have a binder full of drills & notes, hours of discussion on how to utilize them and how to relate the skills to game situations. IMHO this is where we are sorely lacking.....
    5 points
  24. Well then for his sake, I guess it's a good thing that Pittsburgh has a f*ck ton of bridges....
    5 points
  25. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this poster is just trying to stir up some trash talk so I'll bite. I have heard on here that the PHA Icemen have a great AA program, AND you get a bonus A to go along with it!!
    5 points
  26. I hope so! If there's anything that western PA youth hockey needs more of, its faux AAA teams! We need something to talk about on here.
    5 points
  27. Just get on their mailing list, they will email you every day. 😳
    5 points
  28. Watched the whole game... This was AA???? The kid that got dumped into the box was standing straight up, if he had bent his knees. lowered his shoulder and center of gravity the Pred would have bounced off! Again, this is AA??? As for the crap in the corner.... I don't know or care what was called on the BS in the corner but you could have tossed two on each side by what I saw. Let the state police and the lawyers deal with the parents.... Until they start paying a real price for their poor behavior it will keep happening.
    5 points
  29. So..... telling people that a coach has a moral compass that is set at -360 degrees has no place here? If I'm a newbie looking at options, I would think that was important, wouldn't you?
    5 points
  30. COVID makes this whole argument dumber than usual. With players not being able to play, being quarantined, being sick...all rankings/comparisons get a side eye from me this year. I've had that conversation with my kid, whose team has assumed victory over another based on looking at that website and then were surprised to get beat...truly, all bets are off this season. Plus, any teams crowing from an Alpha rink that has been known to continue to operate despite shut downs, particularly gets raised eyebrows. You get an edge just from playing when no one else could. You don't need to toot your kid's horn anonymously on a message board. It becomes clear on its own if the Vengeance program is better than the Pens. All I think when I see these threads is Jesus, so glad that crazed parent is on someone else's team. Not a good look.
    5 points
  31. Why do you care? Stay home and stay safe and don't worry about what anyone else is doing.
    5 points
  32. I have to thank you my man. It's because of jerkoffs like you that this election is going to be a landslide. The actions and words of people like you have created so many silent Trump supporters that your head is going spin like Linda Blair's in the Exorcist. #4MOREYEARS
    5 points
  33. How about this Board finally just quit with the COVID and politics, period? We don't need it here, there is going to be hockey to discuss.
    5 points
  34. The new checking rule appears to be: If it's loud on the boards or glass- 2 minutes If the kid being checked falls- 2 minutes If the kid doing the checking is bigger than the one being checked and one or both of the above happen- that's a two and ten It's ridiculous.
    4 points
  35. Last season. U16 AA if I recall correctly. my kids had friends from U18 waiting lto play after. It’s was during the tier 2 district tournament at delmont. My boys got sent some snap chat videos of the parents fighting. There was a predator mom who got tossed yelling at armstrong kids leaving the ice during the ice cut. She was completely out of control and had a crew with her fighting with everyone. I believe they attacked a one legged armstrong parent or something. Maybe handicapped, can’t recall. On the ice the kids were out of control getting beat, high five’n each other for running armstrong players. yes one kid did punch a ref. U18 AA having a line fight against someone last season. I think the huskies ? U16 “AAA” 2 years ago - the goalies dad came here and posted under his real name to clear the air about the stuff going on with that team. The owner coached the team that season, kids quit because he wouldn’t kick a kid off the team who bought weed in Canada along with another player and parents. A few trouble maker players, team imploded. Goalie quit and a few other kids if I recall correctly. I am not fan, but not so much due to the above reasons even though they add to my feeling on this club. They could have a good program and possibly make the faux AAA more competitive if they would get the main coach out of there. He’s in it solely for the money. Puts kids on “AAA” teams that can’t make pahl AA teams elsewhere because these kids take lessons form this coach, a coach that coaches multiple birth year faux AAA teams over there. Currently that place is a money making shit show. The “AAA” is a complete joke. It’s laughable how bad it is. Out of district play off contention every year in the first month of the season.
    4 points
  36. Those guys don't stick around long in my experience. Driven out by crazy parents. Young guys return from D1, want to give back only to find much better ways to spend their time after a year or two of being crapped on. Again, too many people are over the top awful. It's unfortunate, the young guys are frequently tremendously beneficial to the game and kids, and that is a shame to lose them. I also know plenty good of the much maligned dad coaches. There is much more to coaching than having played at a high level. Another narrative this board pushes, as well as those pushing the sale of the extra A. But it is better to have experience once you get to the older levels. So long as you have someone who knows what they are doing to lead to the younger program who passes that on to parent helpers, you can develop good dad coaches. But I've mentioned before...I think that development is being sorely neglected around here, with all resources going to top teams and less and less attention being paid to developing those young players who could be very good once they hit puberty. And new coaches get very little help to really learn, so it not really fair to crap on the volunteer dad WHO MAY HAVE STEPPED UP when no else would. USA Hockey could do a heck of a better job to provide useful training instead of regurgitating the same stuff every year.
    4 points
  37. Icemen as an organization has fielded one AAA team. That was the team with the owners son and their first year. After that, the highest level was AA. Totally the story of the dad wanting to fulfill his kids dream. They will form teams just to form teams, regardless of skill level. If there is no other option to fill the roster and the parent is writing a check, you can go there and say you are AAA. Are you doing your kid any good? No. You do not create AAA players by playing on that kind of team. Does your kid get 'exposure'? No. Scouts go to certain events and tournaments that teams like the Icemen do not get into. Can the coach guarantee your kid will make NAHL or anything else? I mean, if you are listening to that kind of pitch and buying it, can I have access to your check book? There are no guarantees. If I wanted to call my kid AAA, this is the worst choice out there. All you are doing is doubling the cost of your kid playing hockey. Will your kid become a better player? No. I have known a lot of kids that went there who play the same as before they went. So what are you paying for, exactly? Just the ability to say you are AAA.
    4 points
  38. We look forward to having another quality hockey player who most importantly loves the game in SW PA. Despite what some people say I think we have a very respectable Hockey community and players. Most of all we are trying to get better. A lot of serious kids doing as much as they can to improve.
    4 points
  39. I haven't had kids at local tryouts for a number of years. But, I remember all to well and wish I knew then what I know now. My two sense....I'll never forget the year my kid played AAA - then at the end of the year a ton of kids crossed over from another competitive AAA organization to try out because this one was first. Two teams were being put together ~ the Gold (national) and Black team. After a week of tryouts, my son's current coach pulled him aside and told him he was going to suggest a difficult decision for him. He was going to put him on the black team. He felt the black team would give him more ice time and special teams time. He said - if I put you on the first team - you aren't going to get the experience that will benefit you in the long run. All my sons teammates were going to be on the Gold team. My son had a tough pill to swallow. If memory serves me right it was only him and one or two that were put on the black team. At the time it was painful. The coach on the black team was new to me and the organization. Turns out it was the best coach he has had up to this point. The black team actually beat the Gold team in districts at the end of the year ~ which was amazing. He continued onto his hockey journey and currently plays in the NAHL. Do I think parents should get to watch - nope!! Save yourself the aggravation. We don't always know what is best. We get too emotional. Let the kids tryout without looking over their shoulders at mom or dad or pap watching every move. Stop thinking being on the top is always the best. Of all the kids that played on that top team that year - I believe 2 are still playing hockey today. Life's lessons are learned through the tryout process. Drive, desire and determination are learned. What you view as failure may be exactly what your kid needs. P.S. Just for clarity - those black teams you all act like are nothing but a rejection, a waste and useless helped build my son. He is still playing hockey today in juniors. (and one of his teammates on his NAHL team tried out for both top AAA teams in western Pa and was cut. Made his way to another league and found his way - but that is another story for another day.) Find an organization that you can get behind and trust the process. Let your kids learn about life and be their biggest cheerleader.
    4 points
  40. Two mediocre AA teams with nothing to play for. it appears neither team had a chance to make the championship game by the time this game started. I’m honestly not surprised it got ugly in the end. There was a similar situation posted on this board not long ago at U18 that also involved the predators and parents. This is what happens when disgruntled “my kid should have made the faux AAA team” delusional parents see the season come to end. I’m guessing the predators kid who was throwing the punches will be sitting next season. You can not touch a referee, PERIOD. The predators kid that tried to come in and blast someone from behind when the scrum started but missed, looks like a real idiot and is lucky he didn’t break his own neck! Yes, this stuff will happen with testosterone midgets from time to time but the parents ? It’s inexcusable. The Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
    4 points
  41. Nice Post @Saucey. A lot of good points. I really appreciate this board when we can have thoughtful and intelligent conversation about the sport. While I agree with a lot what you said about the level of competition locally and people leaving for AAA for ice time and coaching, I will bring up one thing. I have family members whos daughters are heavily involved in extremely competitive dance and cheerleading where they travel across the country for competitions and showcases etc. They all know there is virtually zero opportunity for a professional avenue after the girls are 18 to pursue their passion of dance or cheerleading, but they still dump the time and money into because it is what their kids are passionate about right now. They have the type of girls that would be bored dancing locally or cheering for their HS football team. Every kid is different. Some kids, like your son don't want all the extra stuff that comes along with 'AAA' hockey and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I have a son who is the exact same way. He's happiest playing house league honestly. Some kids, however DO want to travel to MN or TX for tournaments even if its just when they are 12-16 years old. My youngest has that mentality right now. He wants to skate every day, he wants to play at the highest level he can. Will that change as he gets older? Maybe, maybe not but I will facilitate whatever I can to make him happy.
    4 points
  42. Everyone will be lucky to play ACHA, in the end.
    4 points
  43. Responsibility for controlling stupidity on the ice chart. Player - has the ultimate control but has to be educated Parent - responsible for educating the player and holding them accountable and not for absolving them of blame Coach - same as parent but has the ability to keep them off the ice when stupidity looms Refs - last line of defense, can still educate but when necessary must remove players acting stupid from the game
    4 points
  44. So Covid enforcement: is there like a special number to call or is it more like the Bat Signal? Asking for a friend.
    4 points
  45. EJBJ, let us know what you decide to do. This forum is full of the foremost hockey experts in Western PA, if not the world. Always love to hear how people take our feedback.
    4 points
  46. PPE has far and away the best skating/stick handling/ puck skills of anyone out there. Get your kid in a high level program if they are so inclined and keep them there. There is a difference between hockey players and kids that like to play hockey. Determining which kid you have is half the battle.
    4 points
  47. Here is a simple diagram for youth player progression. Please note that your player does not need to make a stop on each stair in the stair case. If she's good enough, she can hop steps as long as she qualifies by age. If she is doing learn to play now at age 6, cross ice ADM is your next step. But only after she's doing really well in learn to play. You can continue in learn to play if you don't think she is competitive yet. Nothing wrong with that as long as she's getting lots of puck touches and developing good skills. If you want to try something different, you can look for the next learn-to-play session at Baierl - they run about every 10 weeks or so, also led by Coach Black, Coach Malone, etc. You can also check with the Wildcats to see if there are any ADM openings. Baierl also does a nice girls-only development program called Lady Cats. Usually it's a spring/summer offering, and meets less frequently but helps keep girls together. You could check into that as well.
    4 points
  48. Because Vox has a long standing history of credible and impartial news.
    4 points
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