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2024 Pennsylvania High School Hockey Championships -       
                     
  Game Schedule and Results - Penguins Cup and Flyers Cup      
                     
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Class Seed Home     Away   Rink Day Date Time
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS A PLAYOFFS                  
    PRELIMINARY                
A   Mars 2   Moon 3 UPMC Lemieux Monday 27-Feb  
A   Blackhawk 3   North Catholic 5 Beaver Monday 28-Feb  
A   Shaler 4   Beaver 0 Alpha Tuesday 28-Feb  
A   Plum 1   Greensburg Salem 5 Pittsburgh Ice Tuesday 29-Feb  
    QUARTER FINALS                
A   Quaker Valley 0   Greensburg Salem 2 RMU Monday 4-Mar  
A   Indiana 1   North Catholic 0 ST Bank Tuesday 5-Mar  
A   Avonworth 2   Shaler 6 RMU Monday 4-Mar  
A   Chartiers Valley 4   Moon 0 Mt Lebanon Monday 4-Mar  
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                
A   Chartiers Valley     Indiana   RMU Wednesday 13-Mar 6:45 PM
A   Shaler     Greensburg Salem   RMU Wednesday 13-Mar 8:45 PM
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                
A             UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 19-Mar 8:45 PM
    FLYERS CUP FINALS                
A               Tuesday 21-Mar  
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                
A W     E     Skatium Saturday 23-Mar 11:00 AM
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Class Seed Home   Seed Away     Day Date Time  
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS AA PLAYOFFS                    
    QUARTER FINALS                  
AA   South Fayette 3   Penn Trafford 4 Mt Lebanon Monday 4-Mar    
AA   Thomas Jefferson 5   Hempfield 3 Ice Castle Monday 4-Mar    
AA   Latrobe 3   Franklin Regional 4 Kirk Nevin Monday 4-Mar    
AA   Norwin 5   Fox Chapel 2 Palmer Imaging Monday 4-Mar    
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                  
AA   Norwin     Penn Trafford   RMU Tuesday 11-Mar 6:45 PM  
AA   Thomas Jefferson     Franklin Regional   RMU Tuesday 11-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                  
AA             UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 18-Mar 6:15 PM  
    FLYERS CUP FINALS                  
AA             Ice Line        
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                  
AA W     E     Skatium Saturday 26-Mar 1:30 PM  
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Class Seed Home   Seed Away     Day Date Time  
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS AAA PLAYOFFS                    
    QUARTER FINALS                  
AAA   Seneca Valley 4   Mt Lebanon 0 Baeirl Monday 4-Mar    
AAA   Peters Township 3   Upper St Clair 2 Southpointe Tuesday 5-Mar   OT'\
AAA   Pine Richland 3   Bethel Park 1 Baeirl Monday 4-Mar    
AAA   North Allegheny 3   Central Catholic 1 Baeirl Monday 4-Mar    
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                  
AAA   Pine Richland     Peters Township   RMU Monday 13-Mar 6:45 PM  
AAA   Seneca Valley     North Allegheny   RMU Monday 13-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                  
AAA             UPMC Lemieux Monday 19-Apr 6:15 PM  
    FLYERS CUP FINALS                  
AAA                      
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                  
AAA W           RMU Saturday 26-Mar 4:00 PM  
                       
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Class Seed Home   Seed Away     Day Date Time
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS AAA PLAYOFFS                  
    QUARTER FINALS                
AAA   Seneca Valley 4   Mt Lebanon 0 Baeirl Monday 4-Mar  
AAA   Peters Township 3   Upper St Clair 2 Southpointe Tuesday 5-Mar  
AAA   Pine Richland 3   Bethel Park 1 Baeirl Monday 4-Mar  
AAA   North Allegheny 3   Central Catholic 1 Baeirl Monday 4-Mar  
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                
AAA   Pine Richland 4   Peters Township 2 RMU Monday 13-Mar 6:45 PM
AAA   Seneca Valley 2   North Allegheny 4 RMU Monday 13-Mar 8:45 PM
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                
AAA   Pine Richland     North Allegheny    UPMC Lemieux Monday 19-Apr 6:15 PM
    FLYERS CUP FINALS                
AAA                    
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                
AAA W           Skatium Saturday 26-Mar 4:00 PM
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  PENGUIN CUP CLASS AA PLAYOFFS                  
    QUARTER FINALS                
AA   South Fayette 3   Penn Trafford 4 Mt Lebanon Monday 4-Mar  
AA   Thomas Jefferson 5   Hempfield 3 Ice Castle Monday 4-Mar  
AA   Latrobe 3   Franklin Regional 4 Kirk Nevin Monday 4-Mar  
AA   Norwin 5   Fox Chapel 2 Palmer Imaging Monday 4-Mar  
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                
AA   Norwin 3   Penn Trafford 6 RMU Tuesday 11-Mar 6:45 PM
AA   Thomas Jefferson 9   Franklin Regional 3 RMU Tuesday 11-Mar 8:45 PM
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                
AA   Thomas Jefferson     Penn Trafford   UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 18-Mar 6:15 PM
    FLYERS CUP FINALS                
AA             Ice Line      
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                
AA W     E     Skatium Saturday 26-Mar 1:30 PM
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Class Seed Home     Away   Rink Day Date Time  
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS A PLAYOFFS                    
    PRELIMINARY                  
A   Mars 2   Moon 3 UPMC Lemieux Monday 27-Feb    
A   Blackhawk 3   North Catholic 5 Beaver Monday 28-Feb    
A   Shaler 4   Beaver 0 Alpha Tuesday 28-Feb    
A   Plum 1   Greensburg Salem 5 Pittsburgh Ice Tuesday 29-Feb    
    QUARTER FINALS                  
A   Quaker Valley 0   Greensburg Salem 2 RMU Monday 4-Mar    
A   Indiana 1   North Catholic 0 ST Bank Tuesday 5-Mar    
A   Avonworth 2   Shaler 6 RMU Monday 4-Mar    
A   Chartiers Valley 4   Moon 0 Mt Lebanon Monday 4-Mar    
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                  
A   Chartiers Valley 2   Indiana 1 RMU Wednesday 13-Mar 6:45 PM  
A   Shaler 1   Greensburg Salem 2 RMU Wednesday 13-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                  
A   Chartiers Valley     Greensburg Salem   UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 19-Mar 8:45 PM  
    FLYERS CUP FINALS                  
A   Hershey     Unionville     Tuesday 21-Mar    
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                  
A W     E     Skatium Saturday 23-Mar 11:00 AM  
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Keith Barnes of the PG asked the question when Pine Richland North Allegheny last met in the Penguins Cup Playoffs. The Answer is 1975 in the State Qualifier at the old Sewickley Arena. Richland won 3-2 and advanced to Erie for the first State Tournament

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Class Seed Home   Seed Away     Day Date Time  
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS AA PLAYOFFS                    
    QUARTER FINALS                  
AA   South Fayette 3   Penn Trafford 4 Mt Lebanon Monday 4-Mar    
AA   Thomas Jefferson 5   Hempfield 3 Ice Castle Monday 4-Mar    
AA   Latrobe 3   Franklin Regional 4 Kirk Nevin Monday 4-Mar    
AA   Norwin 5   Fox Chapel 2 Palmer Imaging Monday 4-Mar    
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                  
AA   Norwin 3   Penn Trafford 6 RMU Tuesday 11-Mar 6:45 PM  
AA   Thomas Jefferson 9   Franklin Regional 3 RMU Tuesday 11-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                  
AA   Thomas Jefferson 8   Penn Trafford 4 UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 18-Mar 6:15 PM  
0   FLYERS CUP FINALS                  
AA   Pennridge      CR South   Hatfield Wednesday 20-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                  
AA W     E Thomas Jefferson   Skatium Saturday 23-Mar 2:00pm  
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3 minutes ago, PUCKCOVID19 said:

ii am willing to bet and, and they are losing most of their fire power this season. as they are mostly seniors 

That seems to be what happens every few years. A team dominates and gets moved up as all the players who got them there graduate

Hopefully TJ can hang if they get moved up. Can't imagine they would be any worse that the bottom AAA teams this year, even if they lose their top players.

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31 minutes ago, Icebucket said:

That seems to be what happens every few years. A team dominates and gets moved up as all the players who got them there graduate

Hopefully TJ can hang if they get moved up. Can't imagine they would be any worse that the bottom AAA teams this year, even if they lose their top players.

In my opinion you could have swapped TJ and South Fayette with the bottom two in AAA and made the conference stronger and made AA more competitive as well. I think they would have ended  in the bottom 4 for sure but were better than at least the two bottom in AAA.  I'm not sure about next year depending on the graduating seniors.  

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23 minutes ago, Icebucket said:

That seems to be what happens every few years. A team dominates and gets moved up as all the players who got them there graduate

Hopefully TJ can hang if they get moved up. Can't imagine they would be any worse that the bottom AAA teams this year, even if they lose their top players.

PIHL does a horrible job of placing teams after they lose a bunch of scoring and seniors. Losing half a team to graduation always has a big negative effect on teams. It is even worse when those seniors account for 75% of the goals scored for a team. I have seen it time and time again over the years. Those two factors need to be added to their “formula” in order to make it much better. I have seen it happen  to many schools. And has made some kids senior years really tough because they are playing in a division where they get beaten badly a lot of times and lose many games. Whereas if placed properly they would have been competitive but still not on a championship caliber team. Meaning they were way out of the correct division. It leads to teams going 1-19, or 2-18 etc. 

if TJ is losing half their team and are moved up, I believe they will probably struggle a little. Unless they have a program big enough to add quality players to their varsity roster. Do you know if they 1 or 2 JV teams? If they have 2, restocking the team may not be as hard. If they have 1 it will be much harder(especially if their only JV team barely have enough kids to play games).

 

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14 minutes ago, Happy Hockey Fan said:

PIHL does a horrible job of placing teams after they lose a bunch of scoring and seniors. Losing half a team to graduation always has a big negative effect on teams. It is even worse when those seniors account for 75% of the goals scored for a team. I have seen it time and time again over the years. Those two factors need to be added to their “formula” in order to make it much better. I have seen it happen  to many schools. And has made some kids senior years really tough because they are playing in a division where they get beaten badly a lot of times and lose many games. Whereas if placed properly they would have been competitive but still not on a championship caliber team. Meaning they were way out of the correct division. It leads to teams going 1-19, or 2-18 etc. 

if TJ is losing half their team and are moved up, I believe they will probably struggle a little. Unless they have a program big enough to add quality players to their varsity roster. Do you know if they 1 or 2 JV teams? If they have 2, restocking the team may not be as hard. If they have 1 it will be much harder(especially if their only JV team barely have enough kids to play games).

 

Would there be any merit to PIHL adopting the PAHL placement game idea?  Teams get placed based on past performance and the "formula", but then get to play 2 games against similarly placed teams and see if there is a problem.

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21 minutes ago, YardSale said:

Would there be any merit to PIHL adopting the PAHL placement game idea?  Teams get placed based on past performance and the "formula", but then get to play 2 games against similarly placed teams and see if there is a problem.

Might help, but you would probably have some coaches tanking. I think that using other data available would enhance the process as well. For instance, the level that kids play in amateur could be used. I know not all kids play amateur, but a majority of them do. 

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41 minutes ago, YardSale said:

Would there be any merit to PIHL adopting the PAHL placement game idea?  Teams get placed based on past performance and the "formula", but then get to play 2 games against similarly placed teams and see if there is a problem.

Yes  I think something like St Margaret's would be good for this but the problem is coaches use that tourney to take a look at bubble JV/varsity players so it's hard to say they would even play their best. I'm not as familiar with all the high schools in lower levels but if they are coached like some of the PAHL teams they probably try to play lower to win.  

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3 hours ago, aaaahockey said:

Yes  I think something like St Margaret's would be good for this but the problem is coaches use that tourney to take a look at bubble JV/varsity players so it's hard to say they would even play their best. I'm not as familiar with all the high schools in lower levels but if they are coached like some of the PAHL teams they probably try to play lower to win.  

Seems to be few if any A teams in that tournament. 

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Class Seed Home     Away   Rink Day Date Time  
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS A PLAYOFFS                    
    PRELIMINARY                  
A   Mars 2   Moon 3 UPMC Lemieux Monday 27-Feb    
A   Blackhawk 3   North Catholic 5 Beaver Monday 28-Feb    
A   Shaler 4   Beaver 0 Alpha Tuesday 28-Feb    
A   Plum 1   Greensburg Salem 5 Pittsburgh Ice Tuesday 29-Feb    
    QUARTER FINALS                  
A   Quaker Valley 0   Greensburg Salem 2 RMU Monday 4-Mar    
A   Indiana 1   North Catholic 0 ST Bank Tuesday 5-Mar    
A   Avonworth 2   Shaler 6 RMU Monday 4-Mar    
A   Chartiers Valley 4   Moon 0 Mt Lebanon Monday 4-Mar    
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                  
A   Chartiers Valley 2   Indiana 1 RMU Wednesday 13-Mar 6:45 PM  
A   Shaler 1   Greensburg Salem 2 RMU Wednesday 13-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                  
A   Chartiers Valley 2   Greensburg Salem 1 UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 19-Mar 8:45 PM OT
    FLYERS CUP FINALS                  
A   Hershey 5   Unionville 1 Ice Line Tuesday 21-Mar    
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                  
A W Chartiers Valley   E Hershey   Skatium Saturday 23-Mar 11:00 AM  
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Class Seed Home   Seed Away     Day Date Time  
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS AA PLAYOFFS                    
    QUARTER FINALS                  
AA   South Fayette 3   Penn Trafford 4 Mt Lebanon Monday 4-Mar    
AA   Thomas Jefferson 5   Hempfield 3 Ice Castle Monday 4-Mar    
AA   Latrobe 3   Franklin Regional 4 Kirk Nevin Monday 4-Mar    
AA   Norwin 5   Fox Chapel 2 Palmer Imaging Monday 4-Mar    
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                  
AA   Norwin 3   Penn Trafford 6 RMU Tuesday 11-Mar 6:45 PM  
AA   Thomas Jefferson 9   Franklin Regional 3 RMU Tuesday 11-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                  
AA   Thomas Jefferson 8   Penn Trafford 4 UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 18-Mar 6:15 PM  
0   FLYERS CUP FINALS                  
AA   Pennridge      CR South   Hatfield Wednesday 20-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                  
AA W Thomas Jefferson   E     Skatium Saturday 23-Mar 2:00pm  
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Class Seed Home   Seed Away     Day Date Time  
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS AAA PLAYOFFS                    
    QUARTER FINALS                  
AAA   Seneca Valley 4   Mt Lebanon 0 Baeirl Monday 4-Mar    
AAA   Peters Township 3   Upper St Clair 2 Southpointe Tuesday 5-Mar   OT'\
AAA   Pine Richland 3   Bethel Park 1 Baeirl Monday 4-Mar    
AAA   North Allegheny 3   Central Catholic 1 Baeirl Monday 4-Mar    
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                  
AAA   Pine Richland 4   Peters Township 2 RMU Monday 13-Mar 6:45 PM  
AAA   Seneca Valley 2   North Allegheny 4 RMU Monday 13-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                  
AAA   Pine Richland 3   North Allegheny  2 UPMC Lemieux Monday 19-Apr 6:15 PM  
    FLYERS CUP FINALS                  
AAA   LaSalle     Malvern Prep   Hatfield Wednesday 20-Mar 6:45 PM  
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                  
AAA W Pine Richland   E     Skatium Saturday 23-Mar 5:00pm  
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Class Seed Home     Away   Rink Day Date Time  
  PENGUIN CUP CLASS A PLAYOFFS                    
    PRELIMINARY                  
A   Mars 2   Moon 3 UPMC Lemieux Monday 27-Feb    
A   Blackhawk 3   North Catholic 5 Beaver Monday 28-Feb    
A   Shaler 4   Beaver 0 Alpha Tuesday 28-Feb    
A   Plum 1   Greensburg Salem 5 Pittsburgh Ice Tuesday 29-Feb    
    QUARTER FINALS                  
A   Quaker Valley 0   Greensburg Salem 2 RMU Monday 4-Mar    
A   Indiana 1   North Catholic 0 ST Bank Tuesday 5-Mar    
A   Avonworth 2   Shaler 6 RMU Monday 4-Mar    
A   Chartiers Valley 4   Moon 0 Mt Lebanon Monday 4-Mar    
    PENGUIN CUP SEMI-FINALS                  
A   Chartiers Valley 2   Indiana 1 RMU Wednesday 13-Mar 6:45 PM  
A   Shaler 1   Greensburg Salem 2 RMU Wednesday 13-Mar 8:45 PM  
    PENGUIN CUP FINALS                  
A   Chartiers Valley 2   Greensburg Salem 1 UPMC Lemieux Tuesday 19-Mar 8:45 PM OT
    FLYERS CUP FINALS                  
A   Hershey 5   Unionville 1 Ice Line Tuesday 21-Mar    
    PENNSYLVANIA CUP FINALS                  
A W Chartiers Valley   E Hershey   Skatium Saturday 23-Mar 11:00 AM  
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