dazedandconfused Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 If your "AAA" team is being outscored 164-2 in 15 games and you continue to tell people your kid plays AAA hockey.............. you might be a delusional hockey parent. https://www.tier1hockeyfederation.com/standings/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickboy Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 That’s where BB thrives - on delusional hockey programs and parents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebucket Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 It really is sad how some of these programs sell AAA just to be able to charge the parents more money. I know the MHR aren't 100% spot on, but they are close enough to get the idea. There are multiple "AAA" teams from a few different organizations who rank below all/most of the AA PAHL teams in the same age group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis8679 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Hey, nothing to worry about. Yeah the season is rough but this is just the next step on the ladder to NCAA D1 or Major Junior. Hockey is without a doubt the most convoluted, backwards sport there is as far as structuring teams and leagues that make sense. Keep allowing orgs to call teams whatever they want, and this is what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 15 hours ago, dazedandconfused said: If your "AAA" team is being outscored 164-2 in 15 games and you continue to tell people your kid plays AAA hockey.............. you might be a delusional hockey parent. https://www.tier1hockeyfederation.com/standings/ Link only took me to a page with all the teams at all ages listed but assuming you are talking about the 2013 Esmark Stars - not sure why anyone calls themselves AAA at squirt level period. Even the Pens kids that young are simply a money funnel up to the older age kids who are willing to pay the price of Excel + North Catholic. For a bigger woof, however, look at the U18 Mercer Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loach Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I like the Colorado system where there are no AAA teams until bantam minor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Loach said: I like the Colorado system where there are no AAA teams until bantam minor. That sounds better but even then - first year of checking changes a whole lot of many many kids. How about second year bantam? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsburghHockeyKingPin Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 12/22/2023 at 4:54 PM, dazedandconfused said: If your "AAA" team is being outscored 164-2 in 15 games and you continue to tell people your kid plays AAA hockey.............. you might be a delusional hockey parent. https://www.tier1hockeyfederation.com/standings/ Facts bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedandconfused Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Thanks for the reminder. Here is an update. Things haven't really improved. 7 games in Pittsburgh all season long. At the 10U level!! What a waste of time and a great way to drive players and families away from the game. There are already enough barriers that limit the growth potential of the sport, self-imposed ones aren't needed. https://myhockeyrankings.com/team_info.php?y=2023&t=32685 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHPUCKKING Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, dazedandconfused said: Thanks for the reminder. Here is an update. Things haven't really improved. 7 games in Pittsburgh all season long. At the 10U level!! What a waste of time and a great way to drive players and families away from the game. There are already enough barriers that limit the growth potential of the sport, self-imposed ones aren't needed. https://myhockeyrankings.com/team_info.php?y=2023&t=32685 That’s ridiculous; all for 3 wins too. Let the kids be kids. The parents need to realize they aren’t NHL stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogie Ogilthorpe Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 30 minutes ago, PGHPUCKKING said: That’s ridiculous; all for 3 wins too. Let the kids be kids. The parents need to realize they aren’t NHL stars Keep sending Kosick those checks and he'll keep cashing them! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbin Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Don’t forget about the occasional drive to southpointe for practice too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YardSale Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, PGHPUCKKING said: That’s ridiculous; all for 3 wins too. Let the kids be kids. The parents need to realize they aren’t NHL stars This is absolutely mind blowing. If you happen to know a parent with a kid on that team, please try to help them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice is cold Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, dazedandconfused said: Thanks for the reminder. Here is an update. Things haven't really improved. 7 games in Pittsburgh all season long. At the 10U level!! What a waste of time and a great way to drive players and families away from the game. There are already enough barriers that limit the growth potential of the sport, self-imposed ones aren't needed. https://myhockeyrankings.com/team_info.php?y=2023&t=32685 I can't believe teams are not canceling games against them. All around it's not a good situation. I am also assuming the teams they were playing started to hold up and still scored all of those goals and kept them from scoring any in like a 10 game stretch. Where did they find enough families to think this is normal? Losing is one thing, but this... Are they developing them at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YardSale Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, ice is cold said: I can't believe teams are not canceling games against them. All around it's not a good situation. I am also assuming the teams they were playing started to hold up and still scored all of those goals and kept them from scoring any in like a 10 game stretch. Where did they find enough families to think this is normal? Losing is one thing, but this... Are they developing them at all? based on the scores, no, they are not developing them at all. I would say they are developing at a slower rate than their competition Edited January 30 by YardSale added images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice is cold Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, YardSale said: based on the scores, no, they are not developing them at all. I would say they are developing at a slower rate than their competition I'd argue they are going backwards in their development. Certainly their check books are going backwards. I'm sure Yuri has them in his lessons 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis8679 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) That should be criminal. And there's plenty of local teams that would love to have those kids on their rosters. But let's continue to just allow coaches and organizations to call their teams whatever they want to. The sad thing is parents with kids that age will think this is normal. And the kids will, too. I'm sure Happy Hockey Fan will be here soon to cheer everybody up and tell us that this is okay and good for local hockey. Edited January 31 by nemesis8679 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hockey Fan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, nemesis8679 said: That should be criminal. And there's plenty of local teams that would love to have those kids on their rosters. But let's continue to just allow coaches and organizations to call their teams whatever they want to. The sad thing is parents with kids that age will think this is normal. And the kids will, too. I'm sure Happy Hockey Fan will be here soon to cheer everybody up and tell us that this is okay and good for local hockey. Just curious why you brought me into it? Not sure why you would think that I would be ok with this. It is ridiculous people were scammed. I guess you think I would be ok with it because it is the parents choice? Not sure. Let me know. I have long said that anyone can call themselves AAA but that doesn’t make them AAA. Aviators used have a few teams that they claimed were AAA, called them the Stealth. Always a reach, and I said that those teams would have to play in to AA in PAHL. Couldn’t just say “we are AA” in PAHL. Edited January 31 by Happy Hockey Fan Misspelled word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis8679 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Happy Hockey Fan said: Just curious why you brought me into it? Not sure why you would think that I would be ok with this. It is ridiculous people were scammed. I guess you think I would be ok with it because it is the parents choice? Not sure. Let me know. I have long said that anyone can call themselves AAA but that doesn’t make them AAA. Aviators used have a few teams that they claimed were AAA, called them the Stealth. Always a reach, and I said that those teams would have to play in to AA in PAHL. Couldn’t just say “we are AA” in PAHL. OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsburghHockeyKingPin Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 12/22/2023 at 4:54 PM, dazedandconfused said: If your "AAA" team is being outscored 164-2 in 15 games and you continue to tell people your kid plays AAA hockey.............. you might be a delusional hockey parent. https://www.tier1hockeyfederation.com/standings/ Just because your kid plays AA, doesn’t mean you have to talk crazy behind a screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJUSHL Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Esmark has fallen way off. They still have a bit of a foothold with 07 and older players, but those kids will eventually age out and people have found other better options. Hard to stop the negative momentum. I'll be interested to see what Black Bear does about Esmark, but it's for sure an issue. No bantam minor team? Not a good look. Edited January 31 by RJUSHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, RJUSHL said: Esmark has fallen way off. They still have a bit of a foothold with 07 and older players, but those kids will eventually age out and people have found other better options. Hard to stop the negative momentum. I'll be interested to see what Black Bear does about Esmark, but it's for sure an issue. No bantam minor team? Not a good look. But not one but TWO 2011 teams. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YardSale Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 24 minutes ago, RJUSHL said: Esmark has fallen way off. They still have a bit of a foothold with 07 and older players, but those kids will eventually age out and people have found other better options. Hard to stop the negative momentum. I'll be interested to see what Black Bear does about Esmark, but it's for sure an issue. No bantam minor team? Not a good look. No bantam major team, 2009, right? They have a 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedandconfused Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, PittsburghHockeyKingPin said: On 12/22/2023 at 4:54 PM, dazedandconfused said: If your "AAA" team is being outscored 164-2 in 15 games and you continue to tell people your kid plays AAA hockey.............. you might be a delusional hockey parent. https://www.tier1hockeyfederation.com/standings/ Just because your kid plays AA, doesn’t mean you have to talk crazy behind a screen Wait, what? I'm talking crazy? I simply pointed out some facts (people hate those) and then offered an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid310050 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, aaaahockey said: But not one but TWO 2011 teams. 😂 One of which is no better than mid level PAHL AA team but hey why not pay 6K in tuition and probably 10K in travel when you could have stayed home and had a similar experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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