Lifelongbender Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 @Danner27, you do realize that your post there is an argument for not playing hockey at all, and no, in fact, an argument for not wearing masks while playing, right? I mean you do realize that is how the government would respond to that? I have to assume it's your position that hockey should be shut down, then. I respectfully disagree. As long as they're allowed to, my kids will want to keep playing, mask or no mask, and I'd bet that almost every player in the region will take that same position. Once the enforcement effort is clear it will level out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, bender05 said: PSAC sports practices cannot be held when it is raining due to the ineffectiveness of masks when wet. How does this apply to indoor hockey rinks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, fafa fohi said: How does this apply to indoor hockey rinks? Once you breathe in the mask long enough during vigorous exercise your mask gets wet. Especially if sweat is added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, aaaahockey said: Once you breathe in the mask long enough during vigorous exercise your mask gets wet. Especially if sweat is added. Detroit recently hosted AAA and AA teams at various rinks for the CCM event where all players had to wear masks on the ice. To my knowledge, nobody from that or other events has died from it nor suffered from “bacterial infections” because of a wet mask. My son said this new policy “sucks” but if it means playing vs not playing he will comply so he can play. It could be worse - there are states where teams are completely shut down games for playing games in their home areas and are not permitted to travel at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinlan2020a Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, aaaahockey said: Once you breathe in the mask long enough during vigorous exercise your mask gets wet. Especially if sweat is added. Luckily, all the workers doing hard, dirty jobs in hot environments through the years, while wearing masks, don't sweat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho1 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 50 minutes ago, fafa fohi said: Detroit recently hosted AAA and AA teams at various rinks for the CCM event where all players had to wear masks on the ice. To my knowledge, nobody from that or other events has died from it nor suffered from “bacterial infections” because of a wet mask. My son said this new policy “sucks” but if it means playing vs not playing he will comply so he can play. It could be worse - there are states where teams are completely shut down games for playing games in their home areas and are not permitted to travel at all. Like I said, they wore them like extra chin straps. So, in reality, they didn't wear masks on their face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rancho1 said: Like I said, they wore them like extra chin straps. So, in reality, they didn't wear masks on their face. Really? Cause I was there and watched five games my son played in along with two other games. And every single game prior to my sons, all players were wearing masks on their faces or neck gators pulled up above the nose. Maybe the games I saw were completely different from yours, or were you not even there and commenting on what you heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear and Magic Helmet Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Unfortunately, schools are going full-remote left and right, so the argument about masks will probably end up being moot. Don't have to wear a mask to not play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 46 minutes ago, Quinlan2020a said: Luckily, all the workers doing hard, dirty jobs in hot environments through the years, while wearing masks, don't sweat. What is your point? He asked what relevance wet masks being bad were and I responded. Your mask is going to get wet from water bottles, sweat, and vapor from your breath. If a wet mask is ineffective, it's ineffective. Don't blame me, talk to the CDC - I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis8679 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Danner27 said: Because just like the pa government, they can not force players to wear mask, so for liability reasons they send out an email stating the leagues position. It’s been proven people are getting bacteria infections from wearing a mask to long, hockey players are going to be wearing wet masks. The organizations absolutely can force you to wear masks or a gator. Just like a helmet, cage, neck guard, or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis8679 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Danner27 said: Because just like the pa government, they can not force players to wear mask, so for liability reasons they send out an email stating the leagues position. It’s been proven people are getting bacteria infections from wearing a mask to long, hockey players are going to be wearing wet masks. The organizations absolutely can force you to wear masks or a gator. Just like a helmet, cage, neck guard, or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis8679 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I guess I should consider myself lucky that in all those years of sled riding while wearing a thick, wet scarf that I never died of bacterial infection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Lifelongbender said: @Danner27, you do realize that your post there is an argument for not playing hockey at all, and no, in fact, an argument for not wearing masks while playing, right? I mean you do realize that is how the government would respond to that? I have to assume it's your position that hockey should be shut down, then. I respectfully disagree. As long as they're allowed to, my kids will want to keep playing, mask or no mask, and I'd bet that almost every player in the region will take that same position. Once the enforcement effort is clear it will level out. Today, I watched a tier 1 game at pia. no masks on the ice. My point is, this should not be a league decision, it should be the businesses decision. You have teams from all around the country at pia this weekend, no mask “mandate” or “orders” in place on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, fafa fohi said: Detroit recently hosted AAA and AA teams at various rinks for the CCM event where all players had to wear masks on the ice. To my knowledge, nobody from that or other events has died from it nor suffered from “bacterial infections” because of a wet mask. My son said this new policy “sucks” but if it means playing vs not playing he will comply so he can play. It could be worse - there are states where teams are completely shut down games for playing games in their home areas and are not permitted to travel at all. Currently at pia, esmark is hosting thier first NAPHL showcase, no teams are wearing masks on the ice. As I stated it’s not a “mandate” or an “order” it is a recommendation. The businesses (rinks) should be making this call, not PAHL or PIHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho1 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, fafa fohi said: Really? Cause I was there and watched five games my son played in along with two other games. And every single game prior to my sons, all players were wearing masks on their faces or neck gators pulled up above the nose. Maybe the games I saw were completely different from yours, or were you not even there and commenting on what you heard? They must have been COMPLETELY different, or you are just lying to support your narrative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, Rancho1 said: They must have been COMPLETELY different, or you are just lying to support your narrative. How do I say this politely........you are full of shit. I was there, kid. Played and saw games at Victory, Artic Edge / Coliseum and Novi rinks. All players were wearing masks. Is it now time to confess that you weren’t there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinlan2020a Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, fafa fohi said: How do I say this politely........you are full of shit. I was there, kid. Played and saw games at Victory, Artic Edge / Coliseum and Novi rinks. All players were wearing masks. Is it now time to confess that you weren’t there? Confess? He will double-down. That's the tone that has been set by his cult leader. Never confess, never apologize & accuse others of what you are guilty of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner27 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Quinlan2020a said: Confess? He will double-down. That's the tone that has been set by his cult leader. Never confess, never apologize & accuse others of what you are guilty of. No players wearing masks, no refs, nobody involved in the game - PIA today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho1 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 CONFESS! LIES! You are a douche. Go suck off the pediatrician in drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, Rancho1 said: CONFESS! LIES! You are a douche. Go suck off the pediatrician in drag. Thanks Biff - you got called out and exposed for the liar and clown that you are. Next time? Don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Danner27 said: No players wearing masks, no refs, nobody involved in the game - PIA today. That’s great and thanks for confirming that but it has nothing to do with the CCM Detroit event in October that @Rancho1 pretends he was at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho1 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just now, fafa fohi said: That’s great and thanks for confirming that but it has nothing to do with the CCM Detroit event in October that @Rancho1 pretends he was at. Let's meet in person and discuss the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Lebo closed their rink til at least Dec 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinstrap Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Quinlan2020a said: Confess? He will double-down. That's the tone that has been set by his cult leader. Never confess, never apologize & accuse others of what you are guilty of. Just gotta ask for added clarity. Cult leader; is that the Democrat Party cult leader or the Republican Party cult leader. Asking for a friend again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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