PeterThePuck Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 Looks like Montour is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stackthepads Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, PeterThePuck said: Looks like Montour is out What an astute observation Sherlock Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonworthFan1234 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Stackthepads said: What an astute observation Sherlock Holmes you're mad hahahahhahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihearthockey Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) Wow, color me a little surprised. I guess it makes sense now all the garbage posts have pretty much stopped. Edited February 24, 2023 by Ihearthockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucks11 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 PIHL playoff brackets are out and Avonworth is in with Montour no where to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadtobeerleague Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Sad thing is, if you watched Montour: played as a team moved the puck pretty clean, not too many cheap penalties balanced: 11 players with at least 5 goals, 10 with at least 10 points Also, 8 seniors who have to end their high school careers this way bc adults knowingly tried to deceive the league. Sad, but a good lesson. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyisgreat Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I guess I don't totally understand why, after all the games were played this surfaced. It surely could have been brought to the attention of the league much earlier! Chances are very good Montour would have qualified without the goalie in question! I guess we will never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said: I guess I don't totally understand why, after all the games were played this surfaced. It surely could have been brought to the attention of the league much earlier! Chances are very good Montour would have qualified without the goalie in question! I guess we will never know. clearly someone was upset that someone didn't follow the rules, and once their team didn't make playoffs and the cheating team did, it happened. Id also guess nothing would have happened if montour didn't make playoffs, we would never have had all this fun the last few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyisgreat Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, rock said: clearly someone was upset that someone didn't follow the rules, and once their team didn't make playoffs and the cheating team did, it happened. Id also guess nothing would have happened if montour didn't make playoffs, we would never have had all this fun the last few days Good Point! Did the team that didn't make the playoffs know this all along and keep it in the back pocket? I also have to believe there were rumblings about this all season! It's just so sneaky if so. Persons most affected are the seniors for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucks11 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said: Good Point! Did the team that didn't make the playoffs know this all along and keep it in the back pocket? I also have to believe there were rumblings about this all season! It's just so sneaky if so. Persons most affected are the seniors for sure Here is an idea, DON'T CHEAT?. 3 times this season they were caught now. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear and Magic Helmet Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 19 hours ago, PeterThePuck said: Yout High School Team takes the School name The AD runs it if someone rotten goes wrong you will feel his wrath At the end of the day, that's pretty much it. The AD/school district couldn't care less about the Montour hockey club, until something like this happens and threatens to bring negative publicity to the school district. Then they do care, but not in a good way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overqualified Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 20 hours ago, Icebucket said: I am not certain if this is why the rule is the way it is or not, but years ago Canevin would host the European players who came over to play for Esmark. They got challenged (I think by QV) on these players not being eligible as transfers. The lawyers for these European players threatened PIHL with lawsuits for preventing the players from playing when their visas clearly state that they are here for educational purposes. So even though everyone knows they are here for hockey first, since the visa lists education, PIHL couldn't stop them. No idea if thats exactly why the rules are the way they are today, but would make sense. Completely false Don't open your mouth if you don't know what your talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overqualified Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Foreign players must have a F1 visa They can only go to schools that have sevis papers from the government So only private schools with the exception of Mount Lebanon has them You can have 2 Foreign players on your roster and stay in the division you are currently in You can have up to 4 players but you have to play AA or AAA QV complains and cheats any chance they can They have a kid from another school district that pays tuition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyisgreat Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I would think that the PIHL would put out a press release as to the reason Montour is not in the playoffs. Feels like we are missing something from all of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadtobeerleague Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Overqualified said: Foreign players must have a F1 visa They can only go to schools that have sevis papers from the government So only private schools with the exception of Mount Lebanon has them You can have 2 Foreign players on your roster and stay in the division you are currently in You can have up to 4 players but you have to play AA or AAA QV complains and cheats any chance they can They have a kid from another school district that pays tuition About QV: it is totally legal within PA to pay tuition to attend any public or private school. Fact. Like, most of the North Catholic roster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucks11 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said: I would think that the PIHL would put out a press release as to the reason Montour is not in the playoffs. Feels like we are missing something from all of this! What are we missing, the COACH got caught cheating 3 times this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear and Magic Helmet Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said: I would think that the PIHL would put out a press release as to the reason Montour is not in the playoffs. Feels like we are missing something from all of this! I don't think they will. It's not really a good look for anyone here. Best to just move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baleout21 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pucks11 said: What are we missing, the COACH got caught cheating 3 times this season. I was wondering why you repeated yourself thru out this thread. Was it the program, the parents, the players. Thank you for enlightening us with your beef with the coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateMan Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Pucks11 said: What are we missing, the COACH got caught cheating 3 times this season. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stackthepads Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Theroadtobeerleague said: Sad thing is, if you watched Montour: played as a team moved the puck pretty clean, not too many cheap penalties balanced: 11 players with at least 5 goals, 10 with at least 10 points Also, 8 seniors who have to end their high school careers this way bc adults knowingly tried to deceive the league. Sad, but a good lesson. Nobody tried to deceive anyone…everybody knew where the player was from the entire season, the situation was disclosed and the roster was approved. There was never any “cover-up”. If it’s the rule, fine, but don’t say that adults were trying to pull a fast one. EVERYONE KNEW AND WAITED UNTIL THE SEASON WAS OVER TO COMPLAIN - FACT! And yes, the highest scoring offense in the division is being held out of the playoffs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihearthockey Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Stackthepads said: Nobody tried to deceive anyone…everybody knew where the player was from the entire season, the situation was disclosed and the roster was approved. There was never any “cover-up”. If it’s the rule, fine, but don’t say that adults were trying to pull a fast one. EVERYONE KNEW AND WAITED UNTIL THE SEASON WAS OVER TO COMPLAIN - FACT! And yes, the highest scoring offense in the division is being held out of the playoffs. Montour is most likely in AA if everything was done correctly. The season plays out much differently. JMO. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonworthFan1234 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 so is montour going to appeal and is there a chance that they can still make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterThePuck Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 Nope PIHL has spoken Montour better take their medicine or PIHL can suspend them playing next season this goes to Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pucks11 said: PIHL playoff brackets are out and Avonworth is in with Montour no where to be found. Do you have a link to the playoff brackets as I cannot find them on the PIHL website. In the other A division, Shaler has one game left on their schedule against Freeport on Monday. According to the pic that someone posted of the A playoff bracket, the winner of the Shaler / Freeport game on Monday has to play North Catholic the following day in the first round. Edited February 24, 2023 by fafa fohi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafa fohi Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 52 minutes ago, Stackthepads said: Nobody tried to deceive anyone…everybody knew where the player was from the entire season, the situation was disclosed and the roster was approved. There was never any “cover-up”. If it’s the rule, fine, but don’t say that adults were trying to pull a fast one. EVERYONE KNEW AND WAITED UNTIL THE SEASON WAS OVER TO COMPLAIN - FACT! And yes, the highest scoring offense in the division is being held out of the playoffs. Whether this "crisis" for Montour came to rear its ugly head last week or last month, does it really matter if the rules were not followed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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