kid310050 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Has anyone else here heard about the possible Esmark B team at the 2011 age? A few of the players from our 2011 team went to a skate for this team and were made offers yet they arent sure if the team is happening yet. I feel this is Black Bear at work trying to fill as much ice time as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadday4hockey Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I would put the onus more likely upon the Coach at Esmark. C.J. Stelliesalotte. Think about that a "B team" to Esmark's previously 96 ranked "A team" What next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUCKCOVID19 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 hours ago, kid310050 said: Has anyone else here heard about the possible Esmark B team at the 2011 age? A few of the players from our 2011 team went to a skate for this team and were made offers yet they arent sure if the team is happening yet. I feel this is Black Bear at work trying to fill as much ice time as possible runaway very very fast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey00 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Sounds like what Viper Stars was supposed to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJUSHL Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 100 out of 100 times play PAHL AA over an Esmark "B" team. Edited April 10, 2023 by RJUSHL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duster19 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 This past season’s 2008 and 2010 teams were like B teams! The luster of the Esmark is gone. But I think you can say that for every “AAA” team except for PPE. It’s all watered down now with so many “AAA” teams in WPA. Everyone can be AAA! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hockey Fan Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Duster19 said: This past season’s 2008 and 2010 teams were like B teams! The luster of the Esmark is gone. But I think you can say that for every “AAA” team except for PPE. It’s all watered down now with so many “AAA” teams in WPA. Everyone can be AAA! Esmark has done very well at the midget levels. I don’t understand your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid310050 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 5 hours ago, PUCKCOVID19 said: runaway very very fast I want no part of it but it's yet another team taking kids away from playing PAHL AA. I'll bet at the end of the season my kids PAHL AA team is better than this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Happy Hockey Fan said: Esmark has done very well at the midget levels. I don’t understand your statement. My gut feeling is that esmark seems to be turning into a money grab especially trying to pretend to field two teams as the peewee level. Regardless of past performance they are pretending to be competitive at younger ages and are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyFan6687 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 There are kids there that should not be AAA. It ruins the credibility of their program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saucey Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Particularly since, if you look at Esmark's rosters at the older levels, they have fewer and fewer local kids rostered every year. That's the same complaint for PPE. The young local kids funding the rest of the older out of state teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyisgreat Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Saucey said: Particularly since, if you look at Esmark's rosters at the older levels, they have fewer and fewer local kids rostered every year. That's the same complaint for PPE. The young local kids funding the rest of the older out of state teams. Is that because they are trying to keep up with PPE? Rumor has it the really good 06AAA team at SHAHA is folding. I wouldn't be surprised to see Esmark try to get a few of those really good kids, even though their tryouts are over and team was picked. Brutal time of the year! Tryout season is the worst! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said: Is that because they are trying to keep up with PPE? Rumor has it the really good 06AAA team at SHAHA is folding. Final tryouts are tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyisgreat Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, aaaahockey said: Final tryouts are tonight. Is that why there were 10 or more of their top players at Vengenance tryouts last night? Maybe they were just getting a skate in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebucket Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, hockeyisgreat said: Is that because they are trying to keep up with PPE? Rumor has it the really good 06AAA team at SHAHA is folding. I wouldn't be surprised to see Esmark try to get a few of those really good kids, even though their tryouts are over and team was picked. Brutal time of the year! Tryout season is the worst! Yea last I heard those players were going to vengeance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyisgreat Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Icebucket said: Yea last I heard those players were going to vengeance. So is their final tryout for tonight cancelled! Anyone know why they folded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebucket Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, hockeyisgreat said: So is their final tryout for tonight cancelled! Anyone know why they folded? I'd assume they will still hold the tryout tonight. Never know what can happen. I think the top couple SHAHA players are leaving and it's causing the rest to scramble a bit. I don't have any kids at the u18 level though so this is all second hand info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattrick Swayze Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 They canceled the tryout tonight. Top 4 players and both goalies left so assuming the coach pulled the plug as the team was not going to be as competitive as he’d like it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hockey Fan Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, aaaahockey said: My gut feeling is that esmark seems to be turning into a money grab especially trying to pretend to field two teams as the peewee level. Regardless of past performance they are pretending to be competitive at younger ages and are not. Edited April 12, 2023 by Happy Hockey Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hockey Fan Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Hattrick Swayze said: They canceled the tryout tonight. Top 4 players and both goalies left so assuming the coach pulled the plug as the team was not going to be as competitive as he’d like it to be. Where did the players go? Any big moves to Juniors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaahockey Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Hattrick Swayze said: They canceled the tryout tonight. Top 4 players and both goalies left so assuming the coach pulled the plug as the team was not going to be as competitive as he’d like it to be. Was a little shocked to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattrick Swayze Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Pretty sure 2 or 3 Forwards and a Goalie went to the Long Island Gulls. Top Defenseman to Esmark. Sounds like the majority of the rest of the players trying out at Vengeance now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebucket Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, aaaahockey said: Was a little shocked to be honest. I actually give them a lot of credit. How many other local "AAA" options would have just fielded a very weak team to collect that AAA cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hockey Fan Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 58 minutes ago, Hattrick Swayze said: Pretty sure 2 or 3 Forwards and a Goalie went to the Long Island Gulls. Top Defenseman to Esmark. Sounds like the majority of the rest of the players trying out at Vengeance now. I looked that program up, looks like they are pretty strong. One of their players made the U17 US team. So now some of the top players in Pittsburgh are traveling to Long Island NY to play U18 AAA. Probably because of all the extra requirements of the Pens.(school, academy , etc.) Pens Elite really screwed up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyFan6687 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 What is the intended goal of this when there will be mid to low level A players on it with little experience? It’s really a shame these days that these “experts” are taking advantage of families that really have no clue what they are really getting into and for the ridiculous expense. The hockey system is broken. Integrity is sacrificed for $$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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