IceMom Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 https://www.esmarkstars.com/news Quote “In celebration of our 40th season of providing elite level training and instruction, we have traveled back to our roots and reintroduced our original name … Pittsburgh Stars,” Kosick continued 2 1
YardSale Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Interesting, does anyone know what that sponsorship agreement looked like over the years? How much annual revenue came from it for the stars?
hockeyisgreat Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Looks to me like Esmark dumped them! They must not be getting any money from Esmark!
dazedandconfused Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 I thought they stopped providing sponsorship before now, but they just kept using the name regardless. 1 1
Hattrick Swayze Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 (edited) I’m sure the parents will be thrilled when they get billed for the money they lost from the Esmark Sponsorship halfway through the season. Edited May 16, 2024 by Hattrick Swayze
Spear and Magic Helmet Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 On 5/15/2024 at 10:23 AM, IceMom said: https://www.esmarkstars.com/news Was there some reason they went from Pittsburgh Stars to Steel City Stars back in the 90s?? What other names have they had? I think they were the Viper Stars for a while too.
zam Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 15 hours ago, Spear and Magic Helmet said: Was there some reason they went from Pittsburgh Stars to Steel City Stars back in the 90s?? What other names have they had? I think they were the Viper Stars for a while too. The North Hills Vipers were a pretty successful organization until the late 80s if I remember right, I had friends that played for them. I think they had money problems or leadership problems and declined, maybe tried moving rinks. They ultimately merged with Steel City Stars and played a few years as the Viper Stars. As far as Esmark money, I'm sure they were still getting sponsor money from them. But the Esmark owner/CEO jut retired and sold the Tomahawks and is probably just winding down his hockey philanthropy.
HatTrick Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 https://esmark.com/esmark-inc-founder-james-p-bouchard-announces-retirement-after-40-years-in-the-steel-industry/
LGP13 Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 47 minutes ago, HatTrick said: https://esmark.com/esmark-inc-founder-james-p-bouchard-announces-retirement-after-40-years-in-the-steel-industry/ I'm more intrigued by the company. The website is pretty basic and underwhelming, but they claim to be some giant conglomerate. I've never heard of Esmark steel, aviation or anything else other than the hockey club, and I have worked in the steel industry. They are "formerly" traded on Nasdaq, that checks out because they aren't listed on there. They have 1 picture of a semi-truck from different angles with an Esmark tarp on it on their steel business site... I've never seen an Esmark truck on the roads. The aviation site is even worse with 2 pictures, one of a plane on the runway and another of a plane's cockpit. Their owner claimed they had enough money in the bank to buy US steel with cash a few months ago (7.8 B). I've looked on LinkedIn, Indeed and a few other job sites, and the best I can come up with is they have or have had at MOST 20 employees across their businesses and no job openings posted publicly. The manufacturing and fabrication site looks the most legit, but even it has text over pictures that make it difficult to read and again, no job postings or anyone on job sites that claim they work there. Are they just investors that invest in all these different industries and slap their name on them? Even if they are, the businesses they are claiming to invest in don't really seem to exist or be successful. I'm genuinely confused...can anyone help me out on this?
zam Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 30 minutes ago, LGP13 said: I'm more intrigued by the company. The website is pretty basic and underwhelming, but they claim to be some giant conglomerate. I've never heard of Esmark steel, aviation or anything else other than the hockey club, and I have worked in the steel industry. They are "formerly" traded on Nasdaq, that checks out because they aren't listed on there. They have 1 picture of a semi-truck from different angles with an Esmark tarp on it on their steel business site... I've never seen an Esmark truck on the roads. The aviation site is even worse with 2 pictures, one of a plane on the runway and another of a plane's cockpit. Their owner claimed they had enough money in the bank to buy US steel with cash a few months ago (7.8 B). I've looked on LinkedIn, Indeed and a few other job sites, and the best I can come up with is they have or have had at MOST 20 employees across their businesses and no job openings posted publicly. The manufacturing and fabrication site looks the most legit, but even it has text over pictures that make it difficult to read and again, no job postings or anyone on job sites that claim they work there. Are they just investors that invest in all these different industries and slap their name on them? Even if they are, the businesses they are claiming to invest in don't really seem to exist or be successful. I'm genuinely confused...can anyone help me out on this? Maybe someone should go knock on some doors at their fancy new building in Sewickley and see what's going on in there. Perhaps it's just a big Ponzi scheme that you finally cracked. Or maybe they just need a new social media, website, linkedIn, coordinator.
nemesis8679 Posted May 17, 2024 Posted May 17, 2024 5 hours ago, LGP13 said: I'm more intrigued by the company. The website is pretty basic and underwhelming, but they claim to be some giant conglomerate. I've never heard of Esmark steel, aviation or anything else other than the hockey club, and I have worked in the steel industry. They are "formerly" traded on Nasdaq, that checks out because they aren't listed on there. They have 1 picture of a semi-truck from different angles with an Esmark tarp on it on their steel business site... I've never seen an Esmark truck on the roads. The aviation site is even worse with 2 pictures, one of a plane on the runway and another of a plane's cockpit. Their owner claimed they had enough money in the bank to buy US steel with cash a few months ago (7.8 B). I've looked on LinkedIn, Indeed and a few other job sites, and the best I can come up with is they have or have had at MOST 20 employees across their businesses and no job openings posted publicly. The manufacturing and fabrication site looks the most legit, but even it has text over pictures that make it difficult to read and again, no job postings or anyone on job sites that claim they work there. Are they just investors that invest in all these different industries and slap their name on them? Even if they are, the businesses they are claiming to invest in don't really seem to exist or be successful. I'm genuinely confused...can anyone help me out on this? I have wondered all of that same stuff, but thought maybe I was just the dumb one. I could've written your whole post exactly verbatim.
Hky05 Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 Well they aren’t starting out real well with the new name. If you check out MHR, none of their 7 teams have won a game yet. 1 1
bender05 Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 09s won a consolation game in Chicago. #17 played #18 (out of 18 teams). So they beat the one that finished last. Prior to that, they lost all the other games so far. 1 1
aaaahockey Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 11 minutes ago, bender05 said: 09s won a consolation game in Chicago. #17 played #18 (out of 18 teams). So they beat the one that finished last. Prior to that, they lost all the other games so far. Actually I believe their 08 team won two in Chicago as well. They went 2-2 and had a decent showing
Icebucket Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 Looks like 16U and 18U both went 2-2 in Chicago. And at the end of the day, those are the only two teams they care about. Everyone else is just paying the bill to help reduce the cost on those two teams. 1 1
dazedandconfused Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 The key word is PAYING!! And paying......... and paying......... and paying The number of games played where these teams don't get to stay in their own homes is so high. 1
Hattrick Swayze Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 Have no fear, the Russians are coming!! 2 1
nemesis8679 Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 7 hours ago, dazedandconfused said: The key word is PAYING!! And paying......... and paying......... and paying The number of games played where these teams don't get to stay in their own homes is so high. Don't you know? It helps add to that NHL Experience!! The big difference is who is paying and who is getting paid.
Ynot02 Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 https://www.wesa.fm/economy-business/2024-09-06/sec-us-steel-esmark-pittsburgh-sale
dazedandconfused Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 Just a reminder that most confidence people work in teams.
Whyyyy Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 On 9/8/2024 at 10:36 PM, Hky05 said: Well they aren’t starting out real well with the new name. If you check out MHR, none of their 7 teams have won a game yet. That’s because they brought in all these coaches that have no idea what is going on! And Stellabote was already booted from one organization and should be from this one to 1
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